Archive for February, 2008

McCain Sucks (Up)

Friday, February 29th, 2008

John Hagee wants Armageddon now.

During the 2000 election, John McCain called Jerry Falwell an “agent of intolerance”. That was probably the last time I had any respect for the guy. In the years since, his true colors have become apparent. By 2006, McCain was sucking at the teat of intolerance; he gave the commencement speech at Falwell’s Liberty University.

A couple of days ago, one of the most radical and dangerous of all fundies, John Hagee, endorsed McCain. Think Progress has a good article about this. According to the article, McCain “had been courting the endorsement for over a year”. McCain has become the very thing he criticized eight years ago: an agent of intolerance.

The Think Progress article is short and well worth the read. The most important part to remember is that Hagee has previously stated:

The United States must join Israel in a pre-emptive military strike against Iran to fulfill God’s plan for both Israel and the West… a biblically prophesied end-time confrontation with Iran, which will lead to the Rapture, Tribulation, and Second Coming of Christ.

No wonder Hagee endorsed McCain. He knows that McCain is the perfect candidate who will escalate war in the Middle East.

Help a Grad Student

Wednesday, February 27th, 2008

Take a survey

A few days ago, I received an email from Chris Weber, a graduate student at Stony Brook University. Chris is conducting a survey on people’s feelings about the presidential election and thought this readership could help. Here’s the pitch:

The purpose of this survey is to examine how people think and feel about the political issues, parties, and candidates in the upcoming election. In the survey, you will be asked a series of questions about two political candidates, John McCain and Hillary Clinton. We are very interested in how individuals that find information on the web think about politics, and your participation would be greatly appreciated. In total, the survey should take about 15 minutes to complete. The survey is completely anonymous and you can skip any questions you do not wish to answer.

Click here to take the survey.

Please feel free to contact Chris Weber (crweber@notes.cc.sunysb.edu) at Stony Brook University with any questions or concerns. Thanks for your help!

Fundie Atheists

Tuesday, February 26th, 2008

Atheist Riots

(Image from Atheism is Rational.)

“Fundamentalist atheist” is a term I hear thrown around every so often. It’s almost always flung by a Christian fundie who is upset about something, probably yet another perceived persecution.

When the term crops up, usually a few atheists try to figure out whether such a beast is even possible. Let’s look at the concept and see if there’s anything to it.

The first thing to do is to try to come up with a generic definition of a fundamentalist. These are the characteristics I’ve identified. Feel free to add your own. I’d like to try to keep this list focussed on the core characteristics that they all seem to share, not peripheral characteristics that aren’t so defining or not all of them have. Here’s my first attempt…

A fundamentalist has these core characteristics:

  1. Rabid adherence to and faith in a rigid dogma
  2. Inflexibility
  3. Intolerance
  4. Illogic
  5. Anti-intellectualism

Now let’s take these characteristics and see if they might be applied to some of the more enthusiastic atheists.

1. Rabid adherence to and faith in a rigid dogma

There is no dogma of atheism. It is simply a lack of belief. There is no evidence for a god, so atheists live their lives as if a god doesn’t exist. This is different from making the affirmative statement “God does not exist”.

For all practical purposes, God does not exist. If there is not now nor has there ever been any evidence for a god, then in practical, real-world terms, it is identical to making the statement that a god does not exist. But actually making the statement that “God absolutely does not exist” seems (to me at least) to be making as much of an unsupportable claim as saying that a god does exist.

This is where the Invisible Pink Unicorn is useful. We don’t know that it doesn’t exist somewhere. All we know is that there is no evidence that it does, and we can go about our business as if it doesn’t.

For this category, then, I suppose anybody who makes the affirmative statement “I know God does not exist” could qualify as having faith in a dogma. Note that this category requires not just faith in a dogma, but rabid adherence to that dogma. You need both to qualify for this requirement.

2. Inflexibility

Every atheist I have met has at least expressed a willingness to change his opinion on various freethought topics if given sufficient evidence. I haven’t tested them, so I’ll just have to take their word for it.

There could easily be atheists who are inflexible here. I just haven’t seen inflexibility in action.

3. Intolerance

This would be an intolerance for other people and other beliefs.

Don’t confuse impatience and frustration (two of my traits) with intolerance. I don’t give a hoot what another person believes or does (except where that person’s actions interfere with society).

Some fundamentalist Christians, on the other hand, can’t stand the mere idea that homosexuals exist.

This category, then, requires an actual hatred for the existence or thoughts of another group of people. I haven’t seen this trait in atheists, but there could always be a few out there.

4. Illogic

This is an inability to use logic, which results in irrational beliefs. Christian fundies have this in spades.

You’d be hard pressed to find this trait in atheists. Most atheists arrive at their rejection of theism through a logical thought process.

One place you might see this trait is if they have an over-attachment to a philosophy, which causes blind spots in their logic. I have seen people who think that libertarianism or objectivism can do no wrong. I don’t think this leads to the whoppers of illogic that you get with Christians, but it is a possible vulnerability.

5. Anti-intellectualism

This is a celebration of under-education. It’s one of the defining characteristics of most fundies. Even the ones with PhDs have to get their degrees at Bible colleges in order to protect their deluded worldview from being challenged.

I do not see this in atheists. Period. There’s bound to be one or two out there. There’s always somebody living at the extreme end of the bell-shaped curve. I sure haven’t seen them.

Other Opinions

I wanted to see what other people thought, so I took a quick look at the Wikipedia Fundamentalism page. They have a section on that page called Non-Theistic Fundamentalism. It has some interesting paragraphs:

Some refer to any literal-minded philosophy with pretense of being the sole source of objective truth, as fundamentalist, regardless of whether it is usually called a religion

“[T]he sole source of objective truth” is an interesting statement. I can’t think of anything other than science as being capable of giving us an objective truth. However, there are two important distinctions:

a. Science is a process. Therefore it isn’t dogma, because the answers can change.
b. Science can never give us “Truth” with a capital T. We lack divine knowledge. We are at the mercy of our senses and our instruments. The best we can do is get at something approaching the truth. Hopefully very close, but we’ll never achieve total knowledge (“The Truth”).

Therefore, if I say “all we can know must come from science”, that is not a fundamentalist statement.

Wikipedia also says:

Others, including the blogger Austin Cline of atheism.about.com, argue that fundamentalist atheism does not exist, because it cannot exist on the grounds that atheism has no fundamental doctrines, and that fundamentalism is not a personality type.

True, but aren’t certain personality types drawn to fundamentalism? Couldn’t somebody with a fundie personality latch on to atheism? I did meet a new atheist who had recently thrown off the shackles of religion. He was angry that he had been deluded by it all of those years. I wonder if he will take that anger and use atheism as a weapon to swing back at the people who he feels oppressed him all of those years. Would he count as a fundamentalist atheist?

The high-profile atheists are the ones who are most often labeled as fundamentalists. Wikipedia says this about Richard Dawkins:

Some atheists and those called “evolutionists” by creationists, for example, have been called fundamentalists due to their outspokenness and high level of certainty. On the Canadian talk show The Bigger Picture, the biologist Richard Dawkins said that his critics mistook passion for fundamentalism. He has also stated that, unlike religious fundamentalists, he would willingly change his mind if new evidence challenged his current position.

Clearly in this case, the charge of fundie atheism is unfounded. This illustrates, in fact, that the vast majority of times that label is thrown that it is done so unjustifiably by people who feel threatened by our outspokenness.

Conclusion

It seems to me that the requirements that must be met to make oneself a fundamentalist atheist are quite hard to achieve. I suspect that maybe a few people, out of the millions of atheists in the U.S., could qualify. I don’t know for a fact that they exist, but I think they could. Maybe they’re riding the Invisible Pink Unicorn.

Ignorant or Stupid?

Monday, February 25th, 2008

In honor of my recent controversial statement that all creationists are either extremely ignorant or extremely stupid, I present for those creationists an illustrated guide to their choices. Please choose one.

Would you rather be ignorant…

Ray Comfort deep throats a banana.

(Get the full size original at Freethoughtpedia.)

…or stupid?
They can cure us by removing him.

(Image from Creative Disease)

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Special Bonus

Unrelated to the above, I also found these two images at Creative Disease and thought I’d share them:

Two fantasies crushed.

Brains! Oh, wait!

Your Inner Jesus Fish

Sunday, February 24th, 2008

Your Inner Fish

(Buy at Powell’s)

I guess at some point I’m going to have to read Neil Shubin’s book, Your Inner Fish. People in the blogosphere keep pulling out interesting tidbits.

Life started in the oceans, so there is much within us that harkens back to our youth in the high seas. The Panda’s Thumb points us to an article that you can find in the University of Chicago Magazine or over at RichardDawkins.net. The article is excerpted from Shubin’s book. Here is one choice excerpt:

In many ways, we humans are the fish equivalent of a hot-rod [VW] Beetle. Take the body plan of a fish, dress it up to be a mammal, then tweak and twist that mammal until it walks on two legs, talks, thinks, and has superfine control of its fingers—and you have a recipe for problems. We can dress up a fish only so much without paying a price. In a perfectly designed world—one with no history—we would not have to suffer everything from hemorrhoids to cancer.

Nowhere is this history more visible than in the detours, twists, and turns of our arteries, nerves, and veins. Follow some nerves and you’ll find that they make strange loops around other organs, apparently going in one direction only to twist and end up in an unexpected place. The detours are fascinating products of our past that, as we’ll see, often create problems—hiccups and hernias, for example. And this is only one way our past comes back to plague us.

Virtually every illness we suffer has some historical component. The examples that follow reflect how different branches of the tree of life inside us—from ancient humans, to amphibians and fish, and finally to microbes—come back to pester us today. Each of these examples show that we were not designed rationally but are products of a convoluted history.

He then gives several fascinating examples of how problems such as heart disease, obesity, sleep apnea, hernias, and hiccups are the direct result of our prior evolutionary incarnations as fish, amphibians, and early mammals. He also repeatedly shows how none of this exhibits intelligent design.

Yet more overwhelming evidence for evolution. Yet more overwhelming evidence against creationism. You’d have to be extremely ignorant or extremely stupid to be a creationist these days.

Reality bites

God Song

Saturday, February 23rd, 2008

Don’t let your co-workers overhear this. Someone’s bound to throw a tizzy.

(via God is for Suckers)


(YouTube page is here)

Jesus Has Risen!

Friday, February 22nd, 2008

This is just wrong:

Jesus has risen!

This picture hit a bunch of the other blogs about a month ago, so I didn’t include it here. Several people have sent it to me recently, so I thought Jesus must be telling me that he wants to spread the light to my blog too.

Two More Videos

Thursday, February 21st, 2008

In a comment on that last video, Arkonbey recommended a video by Marcus Brigstocke. It’s absolutely worth watching, so I thought I’d elevate it to the top for everyone to see.

I then went shopping around on YouTube for another video worth posting. Here’s Penn & Teller plus Michael Shermer.