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		<title>Death of Logic</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron Britton</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[(from Gaspirtz) I made the mistake of going by Clown Hall today. That’s when I realized that their name isn’t descriptive enough. It’s not just a site populated by conservative clowns who bumble and stumble with illogic and misfacts. It should be called “Clown Car Hall”, because no matter how fast you shoot them down, [...]]]></description>
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<p>I made the mistake of going by <a href="http://townhall.com/" target="_blank" title="Go to Clown Hall">Clown Hall</a> today.  That’s when I realized that their name isn’t descriptive enough.  It’s not just a site populated by conservative clowns who bumble and stumble with illogic and misfacts.  It should be called “Clown Car Hall”, because no matter how fast you shoot them down, another comes spilling out.  (For the record, I am not actually advocating shooting conservatives here.  Just clowns.  Conservatives are human.)</p>
<p>The first thing spilling out of the car when I arrived was a column by Cal Thomas, titled “<a href="http://townhall.com/columnists/calthomas/2011/12/20/death_of_an_atheist/page/full/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" title="Cal Thomas' article at Clown Car Hall">Death of An Atheist</a>”.  It’s an amazing accomplishment.  You have to admire the craftsmanship that went into it.  It is one of the most concentrated pieces of fundie fail I’ve seen in ages.  I hope you have some free time.  This will take a while.</p>
<blockquote><p>[Christopher] Hitchens railed against those who believe in God. While an original writer, and smart, there was nothing original about his unbelief.</p></blockquote>
<p>It’s true.  The non-existence of God has long been established as a virtual certainty.</p>
<blockquote><p>Such views have been expressed since the dawn of humanity. They have also been answered by some of the wisest people who have ever lived.</p></blockquote>
<p>Not answered persuasively, but answered!</p>
<blockquote><p>There is a difference between “smart” and “wise.”</p></blockquote>
<p>But you can add “ass” to the end of either word to get pretty much identical meanings!</p>
<blockquote><p>As that Scripture in which Hitchens disbelieved says, “The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom.” (Proverbs 9:10)</p></blockquote>
<p>This is a typical fundie debating tactic.  They just pull quotes out of <s>their ass</s> the Bible and act like that’s some sort of evidence to support their claim.  Here’s a quote for you, Cal:</p>
<blockquote><p>The end of your teens is the beginning of wisdom teeth.</p></blockquote>
<p>You can attribute that one to me.  I’m sure it proves something.  Did I win the debate yet?</p>
<blockquote><p>I have always found atheists to be interesting people…</p></blockquote>
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<blockquote><p>…because they just may be the world’s smallest minority group…</p></blockquote>
<p>Actually, atheists are one of the fastest-growing minorities.</p>
<blockquote><p>…one that gets smaller still as its members pass on and meet God face to face.</p></blockquote>
<p>Now Cal has wandered off into the logical brush.  Somebody grab a cattle prod and bring him back.</p>
<blockquote><p>Still, atheists demand physical proof of God’s existence, as if they could bring God down and make Him into their image. What kind of God would that be?</p></blockquote>
<p>The God of the Old Testament.</p>
<blockquote><p>He would be their equal and, thus, not God at all.</p></blockquote>
<p>Wasn’t that what that whole Jesus business was supposed to be about?  God made flesh and all that?  Then for the next 2000 years, God made into a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacramental_bread" target="_blank" title="See biscuit">biscuit</a>.</p>
<blockquote><p>Evidence, alone, has never moved anyone from unbelief to faith.</p></blockquote>
<p>By definition, it can’t.  If there’s evidence, there is no need for faith.</p>
<blockquote><p>If proof were enough, all of the unbelieving contemporaries of Jesus (and Moses) would have believed in God because of the miracles they performed.</p></blockquote>
<p>That suggests that they never performed any miracles.  In fact, the evidence that either even existed at all is scant for the former and non-existent for the latter.</p>
<blockquote><p>Two people presented with exactly the same information can respond in opposite ways. Faith is not based solely on facts. It is a gift from a God who exists.</p></blockquote>
<p>It’s actually a curse from our evolutionary history.  We needed to be able to make correlations based on feeble evidence.  Suppose you’re a caveman walking through the forest.  You hear the leaves rustle, then a tiger jumps out, yet you somehow survive (perhaps by performing a ritual human sacrifice (i.e., you trip your slow, fat cousin, so he gets eaten and you escape)).  The next time you hear the leaves rustle, it’s in your best interest to assume there’s a tiger in the brush, not a squirrel.</p>
<p>It’s probable that religious folks have been worshiping a squirrel for the last 4000 years.</p>
<blockquote><p>Hitchens wrote a book called “God is Not Great.” It’s a clever title, but how would he have known, since they had not been properly introduced?</p></blockquote>
<p>They probably had been introduced.  People come to my door all the time, trying to introduce me to God.</p>
<blockquote><p>C.S. Lewis, once an atheist and thus conversant with the subject, wrote after his conversion, “I believe in Christianity as I believe that the sun has risen. Not only because I see it, but because by it I see everything else.”</p></blockquote>
<p>I hope that isn’t the “proof” that converted C.S. Lewis.  If so, he’s even more of an intellectual featherweight than his reputation indicates.  If I’m reading it correctly, that’s the old “I see the proof of God everywhere.  Just look around!” argument.  In other words “Somebody had to create the universe!”</p>
<p>It’s also a good lesson in not believing what appears to be true.  The sun doesn’t rise.  That’s an illusion caused by the rotation of the Earth.  C.S. Lewis was not a flat Earther.  He knew that was just a poetic expression.  However, for millennia, people did believe that the sun rose and set.  No, actually, they <i>“knew”</i> it.  They looked around, and they saw it every day.  It had to be that way.</p>
<p>Likewise, you can’t look at the existence of the universe and “know” that it had to be created.  That is a logical jump that you have no basis for making.</p>
<blockquote><p>Some people exist, however nervously, believing that this life is all there is. The late singer Peggy Lee put the result of such faith this way: “Is that all there is? If that’s all there is to life, then let’s break out the booze and have a ball, if that’s all there is.”</p></blockquote>
<p>Although you can’t swill booze and engage in merriment 24/7, it is nonetheless good advice (in moderation).  Too many religious people make themselves miserable in this life in order to buy themselves booze and merriment after death.  The tragedy is that they are never allowed to enjoy the one life—the one existence in any form—that they will ever have.</p>
<blockquote><p>Why contribute to charity, or perform other good deeds? Without a source to inspire charity, such acts are sentimental affectations, devoid of meaning and purpose.</p></blockquote>
<p>What a cold, sterile life Cal Thomas leads.  His only motivation for helping others is to acquire brownie points from God.  It’s also selfish.  Presumably he plans to spend those brownie points to buy his way into heaven.</p>
<blockquote><p>If survival of the fittest is the rule, let only the fit survive.</p></blockquote>
<p>The Straw Man argument actually serves two purposes.  One is obvious, and one is less obvious.  In its obvious use, the person making the argument invents a simplified (and often mischaracterized) version of the opponent’s position and logically dismantles that.  It makes him look like the winner of the debate (at least to those who don’t understand the other side’s actual position).  (The <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crocoduck" target="_blank" title="The most compelling argument against evolution ever made!">crocoduck</a> is the most hilarious use of the Straw Man argument of all time.)</p>
<p>The less obvious use of the Straw Man argument is to convince the speaker himself.  Cal Thomas is mischaracterizing evolution as being solely about survival of the fittest.  That’s an important element, but the forces that drive selection and evolution are more complex.  Furthermore, the survival of the human species is driven by more than just biological evolution.  No society could endure if it lived by the animalistic “there’s always a bigger fish” rule alone.</p>
<p>But Cal Thomas likes his oversimplified version of evolution.  He can comfortably reject that version.  That version doesn’t challenge his beliefs about the universe and his place in it.</p>
<blockquote><p>That was the sentiment of Ebenezer Scrooge before his visitation by those three spirits and his subsequent transformation. Let the poor and starving die, he said, “…and decrease the surplus population.”</p></blockquote>
<p>It’s not just Ebenezer Scrooge:</p>
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<blockquote><p>Who is to say such a notion is wrong without a standard by which to judge wrong.</p></blockquote>
<p>Certainly not the Libertarians or the teabaggers.  I have no idea what this has to do with Christopher Hitchens’ death, but Cal Thomas brought it up.</p>
<blockquote><p>To object to God is to create morality from a Gallup Poll. In Gallup We Trust doesn’t have the same authority.</p></blockquote>
<p>That’s a cute line, but it’s irrelevant.  Nobody is objecting to God.  We’re only objecting to the behavior of some of the people who believe in him.</p>
<p>To his other point, we <i>do</i> create morality from a Gallup poll.  Not an actual Gallup poll, but by the consensus of the governed.  That’s how, over the centuries, we have determined that genocide, slavery, and capital punishment are wrong, to name just a few.  All three of which, by the way, are approved by God as “moral” and “good”.</p>
<blockquote><p>Hitchens was a gifted writer, but who gave him the gift?</p></blockquote>
<p>This is a retread of the C.S. Lewis argument from above.  It exists; therefore God made it that way.</p>
<blockquote><p>Why was he not a gifted actor, surgeon or athlete? Why was he not talentless? Was it an evolutionary accident, which would mean his gift and his life were meaningless and merely a “chasing after the wind”? (See Ecclesiastes) Apparently he thought so.</p></blockquote>
<p>And this is a retread of the “quote the Bible for proof” argument.  Cal is starting to peter out (See Peter).</p>
<blockquote><p>An atheist will tell you he doesn’t need God in order to be good, or perform good works. Maybe not, but the very notion of “good” must have both a definition and a definer.</p></blockquote>
<p>Yes.  Good is defined by the collective agreement of society.  The definition of good has changed throughout history.</p>
<p>We cannot allow good to be defined by God.  He is one of the most <a href="http://www.thethinkingatheist.com/page/bible-atrocities" target="_blank" title="'Bible Atrocities' at The Thinking Atheist">atrocious monsters</a> in all of literature.</p>
<blockquote><p>Who is the author of evil?</p></blockquote>
<p>Based on the evidence provided in that last link, obviously God.</p>
<blockquote><p>And if God is nonexistent, why do we call it evil?</p></blockquote>
<p>Good point.  We shouldn’t.  Evil is a mythological term that has no usefulness in an enlightened society.</p>
<blockquote><p>Is one person’s evil another person’s good? Does such a view lead to ethics that must inevitably be situational?</p></blockquote>
<p>Yes.  Not all situations are black and white.</p>
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<p>(BTW, the essence of that quote <a href="http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Who_said_%27%27The_needs_of_the_many_outweigh_the_needs_of_the_few_or_one%27%27" target="_blank" title="It goes way back">predates</a> the movie.)</p>
<blockquote><p>Scripture warns, “The fool has said in his heart ‘there is no God.’” (Psalm 14:1)</p></blockquote>
<p>I love that quote.  Fundies love to slam it down on the table in triumph, as if to say “Checkmate, bitch!”</p>
<p>Get back to me when you come up with a better argument for that point, will you Cal?</p>
<blockquote><p>In this season when many celebrate the object of their faith, there is no joy in the death of one who had faith that God does not exist. Hitchens now knows the truth and that can only be the worst possible news for him.</p></blockquote>
<p>Actually, Hitchens can’t “know” that.  He stopped existing a few days ago.</p>
<p>In the extremely unlikely chance that there is something after death, <i>it cannot be the God and heaven described in the Bible</i>.  That book is so full of contradictions and inaccuracies that it can’t be an accurate description of the afterlife.  That means that it is the fundies who will be in for the rude shock when they depart this mortal coil.</p>
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		<title>The Reasons for the Season</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2011 16:27:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ron Britton</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The above image came to me via email. It’s from Truth Saves, but I was unable to find it on that site. The site has a lot of other good stuff, though. As you’ve noticed, I’m still having a lot of trouble finding time to post new articles. Since I very much would like the [...]]]></description>
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<p>The above image came to me via email.  It’s from <a href="http://truth-saves.com/" target="_blank" title="Go to Truth-Saves.com">Truth Saves</a>, but I was unable to find it on that site.  The site has a lot of other good stuff, though.</p>
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<p>As you’ve noticed, I’m still having a lot of trouble finding time to post new articles.  Since I very much would like the site to continue, I’ve been pondering how to do so given the changes in my life’s priorities.</p>
<p>I have an idea on how to proceed.  Long-time readers (if they all haven’t wandered off due to no new posts) might not be completely happy with the changes, but the site probably can’t continue in its current form.  I hope to have some news about that shortly.</p>
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		<title>Shooting Holes in the Gun Nuts&#8217; &#8220;Facts&#8221;</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Nov 2011 09:35:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ron Britton</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I went looking for a gun graphic to illustrate a quick point I wanted to make. I couldn’t find that image, but I found this (on a gun nut’s page) instead: Since I know a thing or two about school shootings, that image was begging for me to shoot it full of holes. First of [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I went looking for a gun graphic to illustrate a quick point I wanted to make.  I couldn’t find that image, but I found this (on a <a href="http://www.renegadebs.com/2007/04/gun-control.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" title="2nd Amendment! 2nd Amendment! 2nd Amendment!">gun nut’s</a> page) instead:</p>
<p><img src="http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/img/2011/before-1934.jpg" width="400" height="335" class="centered" alt="It's on Johnny's Christmas list" /></p>
<p>Since I know a thing or two about school shootings, that image was begging for me to shoot it full of holes.</p>
<p>First of all, like all subjects, there seems to be a diversity of opinion on guns, and that’s fine.  Some of those opinions are held by rational people, and that’s even better.</p>
<p>The problem is, there are some people out there with extreme opinions, who think and behave irrationally.  Those are the people who bother me.  They poison the well.  They’re so extreme that they make it impossible for rational people in a rational society to have a rational national discussion on the topic.</p>
<p>There are several topics that seem to attract a disproportionately-massive share of the lunatic fringe.  Abortion is one.  Guns are another.  I don’t know which has the craziest crazies, but I do know which are the most dangerous.  Never combine irrational extremist emotion with firearms.</p>
<p>(BTW, just so you know where I’m coming from, I don’t like guns, but I have no desire to repeal the Second Amendment.  I do question the sanity and/or logical capabilities of the most rabid of the gun supporters.)</p>
<p>Let’s start with the logic of the argument expressed in the above image.</p>
<p>Problem #1:  Correlation ≠ causation.  For example, CBS began broadcasting color television signals in <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_television#FCC_color" target="_blank" title="Wikipedia article">January of 1950</a>.  Joseph McCarthy began his witch hunts <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McCarthyism" target="_blank" title="Wikipedia article">less a month later</a>.  Therefore, <i>color television caused McCarthyism!</i></p>
<p>Problem #2:  Children did not take machine guns to school.  Therefore, the “fact” that they could, in theory, purchase the gun had no bearing on the safety of their school.</p>
<p>Problem #3:  It’s just plain incorrect.  There were <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_shooting" target="_blank" title="Wikipedia article">numerous school shootings prior to 1934</a>!  Where’s your machine gun now, Charlton?</p>
<p>For example, the earliest known school shooting was the Enoch Brown school massacre (a.k.a. <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pontiac%27s_Rebellion_school_massacre" target="_blank" title="Wikipedia article">Pontiac’s Rebellion school massacre</a>) on July 26, 1764.</p>
<p>Wikipedia mentions a few shootings in the 1800s.  By the early 1900s, school shootings were all the rage.  Wikipedia lists <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_shooting#1900.E2.80.93s.E2.80.931930s" target="_blank" title="Wikipedia article">eleven shootings between 1900 and 1934</a>.  That’s an average of one shooting every three-and-a-half years.  That’s not very rare, is it?  Sounds a lot like our modern era, doesn’t it?</p>
<p>So tell me, gun nuts:  How is allowing students and teachers to pack heat going to keep our schools safe?</p>
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<p>BTW, I just wanted to point out one of the especially unpleasant school shootings of the early 20th century.  Read the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_shooting#1900.E2.80.93s.E2.80.931930s" target="_blank" title="Wikipedia article">Wikipedia entry</a> for the San Francisco shooting:</p>
<blockquote><p>February 12, 1909 San Francisco, California. 10-year-old Dorothy Malakanoff was shot and killed by 49-year-old Demetri Tereaschinko as she arrived at her school in San Francisco. Tereaschinko then shot himself in a failed suicide attempt.</p></blockquote>
<p>OK.  Murder-suicide.  We’ve seen that pattern play out numerous times.  It’s this last part that’s especially disturbing:</p>
<blockquote><p>Tereaschinko was reportedly upset that Malakanoff refused to elope with him.</p></blockquote>
<p><i>She was ten years old!!!</i>  WTF!!!  I know standards were different then.  I know teenagers often got married, sometimes to much older men.  <i><b>But she was ten freakin’ years old!!!</b></i></p>
<p>Who the hell did that guy think he was?  <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad#Wives_and_children" target="_blank" title="Wikipedia article">Mohammed</a>?</p>
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		<title>Half Moon Bay Pumpkin Festival</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Oct 2011 21:00:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ron Britton</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Look who has new nesting material! (Ray Comfort’s $100 bill, size comparison.) (Rat not included.) Last weekend, I went to the Half Moon Bay Pumpkin Festival. It isn’t the sort of event where I expected to encounter the forces of superstition, fear, and misinformation. Oh what a fool I am. Overall, actually, I was rather [...]]]></description>
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<div style="text-align: center;margin:5px auto;"><i><b>Look who has new nesting material!</b><br />
(Ray Comfort’s $100 bill, size comparison.)<br />
(Rat not included.)</i></div>
<p>Last weekend, I went to the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Half_Moon_Bay_Art_and_Pumpkin_Festival" target="_blank" title="Wikipedia article">Half Moon Bay Pumpkin Festival</a>.  It isn’t the sort of event where I expected to encounter the forces of superstition, fear, and misinformation.  Oh what a fool I am.</p>
<p>Overall, actually, I was rather impressed.  Although ostensibly a harvest festival, the event overall contained all of the images of the season, which includes that most evil of holidays, Halloween.  (BTW, harvest festivals are also pagan, so really, the entire event is non-Christian.)</p>
<p>Despite the festival’s pagan undertones, several of the food booths were run by churches.  I also noticed that some of the churches in town were decorated with witches, black cats, and other Halloween imagery.  It struck me that if this were held in the Deep South, not only would the churches not have evil, satanic, pagan decorations, but all their members would be out picketing.</p>
<p>(That’s right.  I live in one of the <i>least</i> fundie regions in the nation, and I run an anti-fundie blog.  That’s because if I lived anywhere else in the country, my brain would explode.  That’s what happens when you put something filled with matter into a vacuum.)</p>
<p>But, as I alluded to at top, the event wasn’t devoid of superstition.</p>
<h4>Park Place</h4>
<p>My first encounter occurred as I was driving into town.  This event attracts 200,000 people over two days, so I got there early to avoid traffic.  There isn’t much on-street parking, so all of the locals seize the opportunity to let you park in their lot—for a fee, of course.</p>
<p>I passed numerous signs advertising parking.  <i>“Park here!  $5!”</i> (I’m assuming they don’t mean 5-factorial.  “What do you mean $120?  Your sign said $5!”  “Exactly!”)</p>
<p><i>“Park here!  $10!”</i></p>
<p><i>“All-Day Parking!  $15!”</i></p>
<p>I was able to get fairly close.  Then I came to an intersection and had a dilemma.  I saw two parking signs.</p>
<p>The one on the left said “Park at our church!  Only two blocks from the festival!  $5!”</p>
<p>The one on the right said “Park at our elementary school!  Only four blocks from the festival!  $10”</p>
<p>Hmmmmm… decisions… decisions….  I can spend $5 and only have to walk two blocks, but my money goes to brainwash the gullible with misinformation.  Or I can spend twice that, have to walk twice as far, but my money helps to buy supplies for a destitute school.</p>
<p>Without even pausing long enough to blink, I turned right and parked at the elementary school.</p>
<h4>No Comfort</h4>
<p>As I was walking toward the festival, I saw a couple of guys standing on a street corner.  They appeared to be handing something out.</p>
<p>Some people have “gaydar”.  I have “fundar”.  I know that isn’t a good pun, but you try to come up with a funny name for it.  It’s actually not a special skill.  Anytime you see somebody handing something out on a street corner, it’s virtually guaranteed to be a fundie.</p>
<p>I immediately realized that this could be something I could make fun of on my blog!  (I’m <i>always</i> working for you folks, even when I’m doing other stuff!)  Sure enough, it was!</p>
<p>“Would you like to have a $100 bill?” one of the fundies asked, holding up an oversized $100 bill.</p>
<p>Woohoo!  Jackpot!  A giant $100 bill!</p>
<p>That could only mean this is one of Ray Comfort’s fundiebots!  I’ve been reading Ray’s emails for quite a while.  He always has oversized crap like this to pass out.  On the back, of course, is a Bible tract.</p>
<p>I was excited, because I knew these guys were out there.  They stake out high-traffic areas, trying to snare the unwary, but I had never seen any in the wild.  I was beginning to think they were extinct in Northern California (sort of like the grizzly bear, and just as dangerous).</p>
<p>“Is that Ray Comfort’s tract?”, I asked.</p>
<p>“Yes sir!”, the fundie said.</p>
<p>“Sure, I’ll take it!”  I folded up my prize and stuffed it into my pocket, so no one would be able to steal it from me.</p>
<p>If you folks are lucky, and I have time (HA!), I’ll dissect the thing in a future article.</p>
<p>BTW, this thought occurred to me:  Couldn’t I take Ray Comfort’s $100 bill and use it to pay for parking at that church up the street?  Shouldn’t it be legal tender for them?  “Keep the change!”, I’d tell them.  I’m so generous at times!</p>
<h4>The Twelve Commandments</h4>
<p>As I continued my long, four-block slog to the festival, I passed a church (There were quite a few churches along that short stretch of road.  What <i>is</i> Half Moon Bay’s problem?).</p>
<p>They had posted the Ten Commandments out front:</p>
<p><img src="http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/img/2011/12-commandments.jpg" width="500" height="470" class="centered" alt="Now with two bonus commandments" /></p>
<p>Umm…  I mean Twelve Commandments.</p>
<h4>A-OK Psychic Readings</h4>
<p>Wandering around the festival, I happened upon this sign in the window of an alleged psychic:</p>
<p><img src="http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/img/2011/taraot.jpg" width="500" height="403" class="centered" alt="Posterboard doesn't come with a spell checker" /></p>
<p>Obviously, her powers do not extend to spelling.</p>
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		<title>Don&#8217;t Be A Dick</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Oct 2011 16:05:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ron Britton</dc:creator>
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<p>Or in other words…</p>
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		<title>Summer Vacation, 1976</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Aug 2011 13:00:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ron Britton</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[“There is a Growing Tendency to Think of Man as a Rationally Thinking Being… Which is Absurd. There is simply no evidence of any intelligence on the Earth.” (YouTube page is here) When I was growing up, my family would sometimes go back to my grandfather’s farm in South Dakota for a couple of weeks [...]]]></description>
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<div style="text-align: center;margin:5px auto;"><i>“There is a Growing Tendency to Think of Man as a Rationally Thinking Being… Which is Absurd.  There is simply no evidence of any intelligence on the Earth.”</i></div>
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<p>When I was growing up, my family would sometimes go back to my grandfather’s farm in South Dakota for a couple of weeks in the summer.  I loved that place.  It was so different from the world I knew.  It was so alien, in fact, that my grandparents didn’t even own a television.</p>
<p>In 1976, when I was in my early teens, we somehow managed to go back for six weeks (I’m not sure, but that might have been the <a href="http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/archives/2978/kevin-wirth-is-like-a-piece-of-old-farm-equipment#utm_source=feed&amp;utm_medium=feed&amp;utm_campaign=feed" target="_blank" title="Bay of Fundie article">summer of the spreader</a>.).  Interestingly, the prospect of spending a summer without a television didn’t bother me at all—except for one thing…</p>
<p>That was summer that NASA landed <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viking_program" target="_blank" title="Wikipedia article">Viking 1</a> on Mars.  That was a big event.  It was NASA’s first robotic probe to land on Mars.  Among the various scientific equipment aboard, it had a biology lab.  They were looking for life on Mars!  Microbial life seemed a very real possibility back then.  This was our best chance to find it.  And I was stuck in the middle of Buttsuck, South Dakota, miles from a television.</p>
<p><img src="http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/img/2011/1969-chevy-wagon.jpg" width="500" height="158" class="centered" alt="Road trip!" /></p>
<div style="text-align: center;margin:5px auto;"><i>It looked something like this.</i></div>
<p>We drove there and back in our 1969 Chevy station wagon.  It was decadent!  It had air conditioning and seat belts.  Our prior car, a 1965 Ford Mustang, had neither (Actually, I think the Mustang had seat belts in the front.  I guess the rear passengers, like rabbits, were expendable.).</p>
<p>We’d stop for gas and food at the wonderful truck stops and <a href="http://www.roadsideamerica.com/" target="_blank" title="Roadside America!">tourist traps</a> along the interstate.  I loved to buy their postcards of giant grasshoppers:</p>
<p><img src="http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/img/2011/grasshoppers.jpg" width="400" height="277" class="centered" alt="Yummy!" /></p>
<p>… jack rabbits:</p>
<p><img src="http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/img/2011/bunny.gif" width="500" height="345" class="centered" alt="Bunny!" /></p>
<p>… fur-bearing trout:</p>
<p><img src="http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/img/2011/fur-bearing-trout.jpg" width="500" height="321" class="centered" alt="If you catch enough, you can make a coat" /></p>
<p>… and, the most famous of all, of course, the jackalope:</p>
<p><img src="http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/img/2011/jackalope.scaled.jpg" width="500" height="315" class="centered" alt="Not bad for the days before Photoshop" /></p>
<p>A lot of the gift shops also sold this book:</p>
<p><img src="http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/img/2011/spirit-of-america.jpg" width="500" height="651" class="centered" alt="Fun trivia.  Most of it may have even been true." /></p>
<p>It was filled with all sorts of fun trivia about U.S. history.  It was a good book to read on the trip, so I bought it.  Here are the titles of some of the short articles:</p>
<ul>
<li>The last man to invade U.S. ended up as a guest at a banquet</li>
<li>She was first woman in United States to wear pants—by an act of Congress!</li>
<li>Five presidents have had beards and all five were Republicans</li>
<li>Famous ghosts still walk halls of White House</li>
<li>The day president U.S. Grant was arrested for speeding</li>
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<p>Some of this book’s trivia I later confirmed in other books.  One or two I’ve found were common myths.  But overall, it was a fun read.</p>
<p>I have a good memory.  Looking through this book today, I see that I have actually retained most of these stories in my massive brain.</p>
<p>One of those articles that I always remembered was the story of the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millerism" target="_blank" title="Wikipedia article">Millerites</a>, which I have reproduced below.  I remembered it during the recent <a href="http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/archives/3666/ive-been-unexpectedly-raptured#utm_source=feed&amp;utm_medium=feed&amp;utm_campaign=feed" target="_blank" title="Bay of Fundie article">Harold Camping laugh-fest</a>.</p>
<p>Reading this article back then in the summer of ’76 was my first exposure to the concept of the doomsday cult.  I had always known that there were crazy fundies perpetually predicting the end of the world.  Until that point, I never knew that some of them were insane enough to actually abandon work, leave their fields unplanted, and sit on a hillside waiting to be raptured.</p>
<p>Welcome to the real America, kid.  Ugly, isn’t it?  (I wonder what I would have thought if I had known that 30 years later, I’d embark upon a 5+ year quest to document and expose the dangers of this insanity.)</p>
<p>So for your enlightenment, here is the article that I read that summer 35 years ago:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/img/2011/7th-day-lg.png#utm_source=feed&amp;utm_medium=feed&amp;utm_campaign=feed"><img src="http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/img/2011/7th-day-sm.gif" width="500" height="780" class="centered" alt="You're not going to believe this, but the world is ending tomorrow!" /></a></p>
<div style="text-align: center;margin:5px auto;"><i>(Click to embiggen, if you can stand to see fundie craziness at full size.)</i></div>
<p>I love the last two words of that title:  “It Didn’t!”  Really?  I would have thought he wouldn’t have needed to tell us.  (At the very least, he should have preceded it with the words “Spoiler Alert!”)</p>
<p>That article doesn’t tell the entire story, though (and it gets a few of the minor details wrong).  Those people didn’t just “[start] life all over again”.  Nor did they learn their lesson.  They became the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Disappointment" target="_blank" title="Wikipedia article">Seventh Day Adventists</a>.</p>
<p>Thinking back now on that article, I see a similarity between what I wanted to do that summer in 1976 and what the Millerites wanted to do in their day.  Yet in that similarity I see an even bigger difference.</p>
<p>Both of us looked to the heavens.</p>
<p>The Millerites, though, were looking to a delusion of the past and hoping for the demise of mankind.</p>
<p>I was looking to man-made robot on Mars and dreaming of our future.</p>
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		<title>A Million Ticking Breiviks</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Aug 2011 13:00:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ron Britton</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The “normal” right wing crazies are distancing themselves as much as they can from Anders Breivik. The truth is, he’s a right-wing crazy, and he’s a Christian. Deal with it. This week’s On the Media had a segment on Breivik’s religious beliefs. Give it a listen. They play a clip from Bill O’Reilly, who desperately [...]]]></description>
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<p>The “normal” right wing crazies are distancing themselves as much as they can from Anders Breivik.  The truth is, he’s a right-wing crazy, and he’s a Christian.  Deal with it.</p>
<p>This week’s <a href="http://www.onthemedia.org/2011/jul/29/reading-alleged-killers-manifesto/" target="_blank" title="From those left-wing extremists at NPR">On the Media</a> had a segment on Breivik’s religious beliefs.  Give it a listen.  They play a clip from Bill O’Reilly, who desperately tries to convince us that “<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman" target="_blank" title="Wikipedia article">No true Christian</a>” would do what Breivik did.</p>
<p>OTM interviews <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Sharlet" target="_blank" title="Wikipedia article">Jeff Sharlet</a> (who frequently writes about the dangers of Christian fundamentalism), who actually sat down and read Breivik’s entire 1500-page manifesto.  Sharlet says that Breivik starts out “not particularly religious” in the beginning of the document but slowly becomes a full-bore Christian by the end of the manuscript.</p>
<p>I’m not going to lay the bulk of the blame for his behavior on Christianity.  The impression I get from this report and other things I’ve read is that he was already an intolerant xenophobe.  The Christianity is just something he picked up along the way.  He probably found things within Christianity that reinforced his bigotries, just like you can find things within the Bible that back up any preconceived notions you’re looking to support.  The Christian fanaticism was probably just a byproduct of his existing conservative fanaticism.</p>
<p>That’s the important part of this story.  Breivik is a dangerous <i>conservative</i> fanatic.  It’s his rabid adherence to and belief in the terrified and hateful views of the far-right conservative movement that drove him to mass murder.</p>
<p>Sure, something is probably wrong inside his head.  Most extreme conservatives, who hate everyone different, don’t go on murderous rampages.  But there are quite a few right-wing extremists who are just barely restraining themselves, and that’s only due to social pressure.  They know they’d go to jail.  Most of them would even agree that randomly killing other people is “wrong” by most definitions, <i>including by their own personal moral code</i>.  But they also would claim that killing in self defense is justified.  And killing to protect your home is justified.  And killing to defend your country is justified.</p>
<p>So you see, there is almost nothing stopping the hundreds of thousands (or millions?) of the most right-wing of the right-wingers from killing one (or two or a hundred) non-white non-Christians, if given a plausible excuse or if they feel sufficiently threatened.</p>
<p>Look at the epidemic of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynching_in_the_United_States" target="_blank" title="Wikipedia article">lynchings</a> we had (mostly in the South) between the end of the Civil War and the 1960s.  Some lynchings were perpetrated by just a few people.  Other lynchings were perpetrated by large crowds.  All told, thousands (or tens of thousands) of ordinary non-crazy, non-sociopathic, church-going white people murdered over 3400 black people (and 1200 white people!).  Most of these lynchers would probably begrudgingly admit that the black guy they just killed actually was a human being.  Most of them would probably admit that killing human being is immoral.  Yet every single one of them justified their actions.  How?  Because they felt threatened.  They were acting in self defense.</p>
<p>It’s very easy to turn a normal person into a killer.  Just make him feel threatened enough.</p>
<p>The current tone of political “debate” in this country (in the town halls and at the teabagging rallies and on Fox News and on countless radio stations) is too toxic and too inflammatory.  Don’t throw gasoline on a smoldering fire.  Norway isn’t as far away as you think.</p>
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		<title>The Alpha Course</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jul 2011 07:30:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ron Britton</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[(Cartoon from The Rut) I was all set for my big comeback article tonight. It was going to be good. I was going to write about a high-pressure fundie recruitment ploy that utilizes intensive sales techniques, a la the dreaded timeshare sales pitch. It turns out that isn’t quite what they do, and it was [...]]]></description>
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<div style="text-align: center;margin:5px auto;"><i>(<a href="http://bigeyedeer.wordpress.com/2007/05/19/a-cartoon-about-pests-and-mice/" target="_blank" title="Get yourself in a Rut">Cartoon from The Rut</a>)</i></div>
<p>I was all set for my big comeback article tonight.  It was going to be good.  I was going to write about a high-pressure fundie recruitment ploy that utilizes intensive sales techniques, <i>a la</i> the dreaded timeshare sales pitch.</p>
<p>It turns out that isn’t quite what they do, and it was a rather sucky documentary to boot.</p>
<p>The film I watched is episode one of an 8-part U.K. documentary series on religion, titled <i><a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1499817/" target="_blank" title="Internet Movie Database">Revelations</a></i> (That page at the IMDb is like the documentary:  Not really worth your time.).</p>
<p>The series was actually made back in 2009.  Apparently it’s in the process of being rebroadcast right now.  Depending on where you live, you can watch a few of the episodes <a href="http://www.channel4.com/programmes/revelations/episode-guide" target="_blank" title="Series page at Channel Four">online</a>, but not episode one.</p>
<p>That first episode is titled “How to Find God”.  It’s about a Christian recruitment program called <i><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpha_course" target="_blank" title="Wikipedia article">The Alpha Course</a></i>.  Alpha was developed by a reverend in the Church of England, but it’s used by churches of many denominations.  According to the documentary, “there are 30,000 Alpha courses running… in 168 countries.”</p>
<p>The whole shtick here is that churches know they’re losing members.  They don’t want the golden goose (that allows them to avoid getting real jobs) to die, so they have to bring in fresh bodies.  Like the tobacco industry, they don’t want to steal parishioners away from some other church.  That just means they’d be squabbling over the crumbs of a smaller and smaller pie.  They need brand new bodies!  They’ve had schemes running for centuries to suck in the kids (just like the tobacco industry).  That used to be sufficient.  Sadly, not even that will stave off irrelevance.  They need some other source of bodies.  How about atheists?  No, that really wouldn’t work.  Here’s an idea!  Why don’t they harvest some agnostics?  Brilliant!</p>
<p>So they developed this course that runs one night per week for eight weeks, plus a weekend getaway (ironic, since “getaway” is the one thing they don’t want you to do).  The documentary tells us that more than two million agnostics in Britain have done the Alpha course.  One in eight converts.  Multiply that by all of the other Alpha courses running around the world.  Yow!  That’s a lot of very weak agnostics.</p>
<p>The documentary was produced by a chap named <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Ronson" target="_blank" title="Wikipedia article">Jon Ronson</a>.  I guess I haven’t been paying attention, because I didn’t know who he is.  It turns out that this is the guy who wrote <i><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Men_Who_Stare_at_Goats" target="_blank" title="Wikipedia article">The Men Who Stare at Goats</a></i>.  If you go to his Wikipedia page, the first thing you’ll see is a picture of him speaking at TAM London in 2009.  (If I had actually been able to score a ticket to TAM London like I wanted, then maybe I wouldn’t have been so clueless on who he is.)</p>
<p>The documentary itself was somewhat amateurish.  It follows eight agnostics as they go through this course, yet Ronson doesn’t even bother to get all their names.  One agnostic bails after the first night.  We watch her walk away while Ronson narrates “…one of them, I never know her name, says it isn’t for her.”  Then in a later scene, his video tape runs out, and he misses a dramatic moment.  Later in the documentary, he forgets to turn off the camera.  He catches an important scene merely through ineptitude!  Despite this, the program did hold my interest, but maybe only because I was taking notes for this article.</p>
<p>The way the Alpha course is structured, everybody piles into the church some evening for the weekly meeting.  The head of that church gives a low-pressure lecture about Jesus, what he taught, how we “know” he was real (they claim to have evidence, but it’s just Josephus, who wrote about Jesus years later), and how God loves you so much he’s going to send you to hell to burn and writhe in agony for eternity for not clapping your hands and believing in Tinkerbell.</p>
<p>After the lecture, the congregation of agnostics breaks up into small discussion groups.  In the documentary, we follow one of these groups, which consists of eight agnostics (seven after the first night) plus two discussion leaders.  In the group, they discuss where everybody is coming from regarding their thoughts on whether God &#038; Jesus exist and if there is any chance in hell of any of them converting.</p>
<p>During these discussion groups, the agnostics raise all sorts of logical objections.  Those clever Alpha people can’t be stumped, though!  The head office publishes a set of pamphlets that refutes (or so they think) all of the common logical proofs that God &#038; Son are unlikely to exist.</p>
<p>It’s clear that the agnostics in this documentary are not buying any of it at that first meeting.  For whatever reason, all seven come back in subsequent weeks and continue to subject themselves to this low-grade sales pitch.  Ultimately, some of them falter and find themselves getting drawn in.  Don’t these people read science fiction?  Never go into orbit around a black hole!</p>
<p>I would surmise that the reason this course works on so many agnostics is because it <i>isn’t</i> hardcore fundie.  Supposedly the content <i>is</i> evangelical.  It <i>is</i> anti-gay.  They even speak in tongues at one point (or fail to in this documentary, thanks to a convention of sports car enthusiasts).  But I didn’t see any of the fire and brimstone that we normally associate with fundiegelicalism.</p>
<p>Maybe that’s something that varies by church.  Of the thousands of churches around the world that use this course, perhaps some of them whip themselves into a frenzy of Jesus-praising and gay-bashing and porn-hating.  I’d be very curious to see what their conversion rate is.  As counterintuitive as it might seem, I’d be willing to bet that those fundie churches actually have a much higher conversion rate than one in eight.  After all, look how many people buy timeshares.</p>
<p><i>[If you are unable to find this documentary through your cable system or however else you acquire content, I did find a watchable copy on YouTube.  It’s apparently from German TV, because it’s full of German subtitles (or maybe the video is speaking in tongues).  Here are <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gug9QDm-_IM" target="_blank" title="See it at YouTube">part 1</a>, <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrT5huilT0M" target="_blank" title="See it at YouTube">part 2</a>, <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNldOyto8Zk" target="_blank" title="See it at YouTube">part 3</a>, and <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPHyYABHQcM" target="_blank" title="See it at YouTube">part 4</a>.]</i></p>
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		<title>I&#8217;ve Been Unexpectedly Raptured</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 22 May 2011 01:01:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ron Britton</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well this is embarrassing. It appears that I have just been raptured. If you’re seeing this post, it means that God has taken me! (Or possibly I’ve just been run over by a drunk driver while trying to cross the street. Please check outside for a mangled body on the road. That’s probably me.) I [...]]]></description>
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<p>Well this is embarrassing.  It appears that I have just been raptured.</p>
<p>If you’re seeing this post, it means that God has taken me!  (Or possibly I’ve just been run over by a drunk driver while trying to cross the street.  Please check outside for a mangled body on the road.  That’s probably me.)</p>
<p>I had this post scheduled to run automatically at 6:01 PM on May 21st.  I figured that the rapture would run on time (God is like Mussolini, you know).  If I hadn’t been raptured by 6:01, I was planning to intervene and prevent this post from publishing.  The fact that you’re seeing it now means that I have been raptured!</p>
<p>Hallelujah!</p>
<p>This just shows what those fundies know.  They claimed that I’d spend eternity in hell for being an atheist.  I’m not going to hell!  I’m going to heaven!</p>
<p>…Surrounded by fundies for eternity.  Oh, shit!</p>
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		<title>At War with Itself</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Mar 2011 07:43:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ron Britton</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Look at that thing. Kinda purty, ain’t it? But what is it? To me, it looks like fireworks. Somebody set up a bunch of cones and set them off all at once. Let’s back up a bit and see if we can get a better view. Well now it looks more like fiber optics. Hundreds [...]]]></description>
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<p>Look at that thing.  Kinda purty, ain’t it?</p>
<p>But what is it?  To me, it looks like fireworks.  Somebody set up a bunch of cones and set them off all at once.</p>
<p>Let’s back up a bit and see if we can get a better view.</p>
<p><img src="http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/img/2011/bc/bc2.jpg" width="500" height="400" class="centered" alt="What is it?" /></p>
<p>Well now it looks more like fiber optics.  Hundreds of fiber optic cables, connecting each city to many others.</p>
<p>Let’s back up all the way and see the entire width.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/img/2011/bc/bc3-lg.jpg#utm_source=feed&amp;utm_medium=feed&amp;utm_campaign=feed"><img src="http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/img/2011/bc/bc3-sm.jpg" width="500" height="282" class="centered" alt="What is it?" /></a></p>
<p>OOOOO!!  It’s really getting morbidly pretty now!  <a href="http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/img/2011/bc/bc3-lg.jpg#utm_source=feed&amp;utm_medium=feed&amp;utm_campaign=feed" title="Bow down before its awesomeness!">Click on that image</a> to get a bigger view of its awesomeness.  What it looks like to me is an all-out, free-for-all nuclear armageddon.  Sixty-six city-states, each armed to the teeth, launching all their nukes simultaneously in one last-ditch effort to wipe out all of the infidels in the other cities.  Kind of appropriate, as you’ll see in a moment.</p>
<p>This “dome of doom”, as I call it, is from a poster.  That poster has some text below the dome.  Let’s look at just a bit of it.</p>
<p><img src="http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/img/2011/bc/bc4.jpg" width="500" height="305" class="centered" alt="List of contradictions" /></p>
<p>I know what that’s a list of!  Contradictions in the Bible!  So that “dome” is actually a diagram connecting all of the contradicting passages in the Bible.</p>
<p>There sure are a lot of them.  Here’s the entire poster, shrunk way down to fit my margins:</p>
<p><img src="http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/img/2011/bc/bc5.jpg" width="500" height="664" class="centered" alt="Entire poster" /></p>
<p>This poster is produced by Project Reason, and you can get yourself a full-sized version of it <a href="http://www.project-reason.org/gallery3/image/105/" target="_blank" title="Hurry! Get an electronic copy from Project Reason before they run out of electrons!">right here</a>.  If you have access to a giant printer, you can print it out.  Then do a Martin Luther and nail it to the door of your local fundigelical church.</p>
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		<title>Be Safe. Use Porn.</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Jan 2011 21:12:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ron Britton</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bill Johnson of the American Decency Association BroadSnark brought something to my attention a few days ago that I’ve been meaning to write a quick post about. Milton Diamond, who just retired from the Pacific Center for Sex and Society at the University of Hawaii, published an article last year in the International Journal of [...]]]></description>
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<div style="text-align: center;margin:5px auto;"><i>Bill Johnson of the<br />
American Decency Association</i></div>
<p><a href="http://www.broadsnark.com/things-you-might-have-missed-43/" target="_blank" title="Go to BroadSnark">BroadSnark</a> brought something to my attention a few days ago that I’ve been meaning to write a quick post about.</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milton_Diamond" target="_blank" title="Wikipedia article">Milton Diamond</a>, who just retired from the Pacific Center for Sex and Society at the University of Hawaii, published an article last year in the <i>International Journal of Law and Psychiatry</i>.</p>
<p>The article is titled “<a href="http://www.hawaii.edu/PCSS/biblio/articles/2005to2009/2009-pornography-acceptance-crime.html" target="_blank" title="Go to article">Pornography, Public Acceptance and Sex Related Crime: A Review</a>”.  Here is the abstract.  I have emphasized one of its important conclusions:</p>
<blockquote><p>A vocal segment of the population has serious concerns about the effect of pornography in society and challenges its public use and acceptance. This manuscript reviews the major issues associated with the availability of sexually explicit material.</p>
<p><i>It has been found everywhere scientifically investigated that as pornography has increased in availability, sex crimes have either decreased or not increased.</i></p>
<p>It is further been found that sexual erotica has not only wide spread personal acceptance and use but general tolerance for its availability to adults. This attitude is seen by both men and women and not only in urban communities but also in reputed conservative ones as well. Further this finding holds nationally in the United States and in widely different countries around the world.</p>
<p>Indeed, no country where this matter has been scientifically studied has yet been found to think pornography ought be restricted from adults. The only consistent finding is that adults prefer to have the material restricted from children’s production or use.</p></blockquote>
<p>BroadSnark pulls out a few of the juiciest details from the article itself:</p>
<blockquote><ul>
<li>rapists were more likely than non-rapists in the prison population to having been punished for looking at pornography while a youngster</li>
<li>rapists and child molesters use less pornography than a control group of “normal” males</li>
<li>sex offenders requesting treatment commonly disclose that pornography helps them contain their abnormal sexuality within imagination as a fantasy instead of their aggressively acting out in real life</li>
<li>what does correlate highly with sex offense is a strict, repressive religious upbringing</li>
</ul>
</blockquote>
<p>BroadSnark also gives us the appropriate conclusion that may be drawn from these findings:</p>
<blockquote><p>In short, if you want less rape and child molestation, you would be better off banning religion than porn.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>A Crick in the Neck of Religion</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Jan 2011 08:04:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ron Britton</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Francis Crick co-discovered, with James D. Watson and Rosalind Franklin, the structure of DNA in 1953. Wikipedia has an entire section of his article titled “Views on Religion”. That section starts off with: Crick once joked, “Christianity may be OK between consenting adults in private but should not be taught to young children.” To which [...]]]></description>
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<p>Francis Crick co-discovered, with <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_D._Watson" target="_blank" title="Wikipedia article">James D. Watson</a> and <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosalind_Franklin" target="_blank" title="Wikipedia article">Rosalind Franklin</a>, the structure of DNA in 1953.</p>
<p>Wikipedia has an entire section of his article titled “<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Crick#Views_on_religion" target="_blank" title="Wikipedia article">Views on Religion</a>”.  That section starts off with:</p>
<blockquote><p>Crick once joked, “Christianity may be OK between consenting adults in private but should not be taught to young children.”</p></blockquote>
<p>To which I ask:  How do we know he was joking?</p>
<p>The article mentions his book <i>Of Molecules and Men</i>:</p>
<blockquote><p>[H]e wondered: at what point during biological evolution did the first organism have a soul?</p></blockquote>
<p>This is one of my problems with Christianity.  It places humans apart from animals as distinct and special.  This belief then affects how we treat the other species we share the world with.</p>
<p>More specifically, can anyone answer the question?  Were souls just floating around out in the ether waiting for humans to evolve?</p>
<p>If they weren’t waiting specifically for humans to evolve, then they must also latch onto any other passing organism, just like all other generalized parasites do.</p>
<p>If they were waiting specifically for humans, that would imply directed evolution or foreknowledge of events.  I suppose if you’re religious, you can wave your arms and say “That’s it!”  That answer doesn’t work for the rest of us.</p>
<p>And if souls were waiting for humans specifically, when did they jump in?  Were they sitting around the African savannah watching our ancestors?  Cheering and jeering them on?</p>
<p>“Evolve, dammit!”</p>
<p>“No!  Not behind the bush!  That’s where the lion is!  You’ll never pass on your genes if you do that!”</p>
<p>The waiting must have been tedious:</p>
<p>“Well how about that one?  It’s called ‘Lucy’.  That’s a good name.”</p>
<p>“Nah.  It only has a cranial capacity of 400 cc.  Where would I hang the Van Gogh?”</p>
<p>Then later:</p>
<p>“Look!  There’s a <i>Homo</i>!”</p>
<p>“They have as much right to marry as anyone else!”</p>
<p>“No!  The others were <i>Australopithecines</i>.  This one is more modern.  Surely we can inhabit this one!”</p>
<p>“Maybe, but do you really want to live in something called <i>Homo erectus</i>?”</p>
<p>So if the souls were waiting specifically for <i>Homo sapiens</i> to evolve, when did they jump in?  There are no sharp boundaries between species.  The parents weren’t <i>Homo erectus</i> and their children <i>Homo sapiens</i>.  It was a fluid and gradual transition.  So how did the souls know when the species was ripe, and when did that happen?</p>
<p>Returning to the Wikipedia article, Crick wondered:</p>
<blockquote><p>At what moment does a baby get a soul?</p></blockquote>
<p>That, of course, seems to be the heart of the abortion debate.  Fundies don’t seem to have a problem killing non-human life.  They seem to use the alleged existence of the soul as the defining characteristic.</p>
<blockquote><p>Crick stated his view that the idea of a non-material soul that could enter a body and then persist after death is just that, an imagined idea. For Crick, the mind is a product of physical brain activity and the brain had evolved by natural means over millions of years.</p></blockquote>
<p>This view is held by many scientists, of course.</p>
<blockquote><p>Crick felt that a new scientific world view was rapidly being established, and predicted that once the detailed workings of the brain were eventually revealed, erroneous Christian concepts about the nature of humans and the world would no longer be tenable; traditional conceptions of the “soul” would be replaced by a new understanding of the physical basis of mind.</p></blockquote>
<p>The brain is amazingly complex.  I’m not convinced we’ll ever have it completely figured out.  Assume that we do.  I know that won’t make “erroneous Christian concepts… [un]tenable”.  We’ve known for quite a while that the Earth is 4.5 billion years old, but that hasn’t made young-Earth creationism go away.</p>
<p>Wikipedia also says:</p>
<blockquote><p>Crick suggested that it might be possible to find chemical changes in the brain that were molecular correlates of the act of prayer. He speculated that there might be a detectable change in the level of some neurotransmitter or neurohormone when people pray.</p></blockquote>
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<img src="http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/img/2011/orgy-lair.jpg" width="200" height="304" alt="A real party school" /><br />
<i><a href="http://bookscans.com/" target="_blank" title="Go to Book Scans">From Book Scans</a></i>
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<p>This field of study is now known as <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neurotheology" target="_blank" title="Wikipedia article">neurotheology</a>.<br />
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<h4>That Was All Foreplay</h4>
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<p>Anyway, all of the above is just background material to what I really wanted to write about:  <b>Sex!</b><br />
</p>
<p>I somehow came across a website called TheBestColleges.org.  It’s an odd mix of useful info and trivia.<br />
</p>
<p>In the trivia department is an article titled “<a href="http://www.thebestcolleges.org/7-generous-college-donations-with-insane-strings-attached/" target="_blank" title="Go to article">7 Generous College Donations (With Insane Strings Attached)</a>”.  I disagree.  The strings aren’t insane, just a little quirky.<br />
</p>
<p>The last “generous” donation is by our old friend Francis Crick.  They write:</p>
<blockquote><p>Francis Crick, famed English molecular biologist and Nobel Prize winner for discovering the DNA molecule…</p></blockquote>
<p>They have a factual error right out the gate.  DNA was already known.  He co-discovered its structure.</p>
<blockquote><p>…was offered a fellowship (a senior office in British Universities) at the newly opened Churchill College, a constituent college of Cambridge University. However Crick, a staunch and rabid atheist…</p></blockquote>
<p>Another error!  People love to label any outspoken atheist as rabid.  He was not.  I happen to know he was vaccinated.</p>
<blockquote><p>…only accepted the honor on the basis that a chapel would never be built at Churchill, a supposed center of science and technology. Much to his chagrin though, a donation was later made to the school for the sole purpose of establishing a place of worship on her campus which was accepted and Crick’s Nightmare was built.</p></blockquote>
<p>That’s so typical.  There’s always somebody out there who is so massively offended by the existence of a public institution that isn’t contaminated by religion that they have to do the infecting themselves.  We need a vaccine for that.</p>
<blockquote><p>Anticipating Crick’s tempter tantrum…</p></blockquote>
<p>Don’t you love how they characterize his objections?</p>
<blockquote><p>…Winston Churchill himself (the chairman) attempted to smooth things over by advising him that no one need enter the chapel unless they wished to do so and thus the building could simply be ignored. Crick replied to that letter with a donation to the school of 10 guineas for the establishment of a brothel to operate under the same logic which, sadly for future generations of Churchill’s students, was denied.</p></blockquote>
<p>Seems logical to me.</p>
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