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		<title>By: Modusoperandi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Modusoperandi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 19:24:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Brian&lt;/b&gt; &lt;i&gt;&quot;Whenever they encounter anything contrary to their dogma, they are also reacting to it as if it were a personal attack as well.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Just flip it around as the &quot;hate the sin, love the sinner&quot; saying, but with &quot;stupid&quot; and, um &quot;stup&quot;. That&#039;ll learn &#039;em! Learn &#039;em good!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Brian</b> <i>&#8220;Whenever they encounter anything contrary to their dogma, they are also reacting to it as if it were a personal attack as well.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Just flip it around as the &#8220;hate the sin, love the sinner&#8221; saying, but with &#8220;stupid&#8221; and, um &#8220;stup&#8221;. That&#8217;ll learn &#8216;em! Learn &#8216;em good!</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 13:09:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dude, she looks like John Kerry in the first pic. And really, horses are noble beasts. Let&#039;s not be insulting to them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dude, she looks like John Kerry in the first pic. And really, horses are noble beasts. Let&#8217;s not be insulting to them.</p>
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		<title>By: TauRaven</title>
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		<dc:creator>TauRaven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 18:24:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Ron, nice picture but I think you used the wrong end of the horse.</description>
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		<title>By: Ron Britton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron Britton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 16:47:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ParrotLover said:

&lt;blockquote&gt;I’m not aware of any scientist asserting that if only more humans would breed more with horses, we’d all evolve bigger ding-dongs.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

And then Brian said:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Thanks a lot, Ron, for the startling image of Coultergeist&lt;/blockquote&gt;

So here you go, Brian.  Help evolve the human race.  Your filly awaits!

&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/img/2009/mrs-ed.jpg&quot; width=&quot;500&quot; height=&quot;379&quot; class=&quot;centered&quot; alt=&quot;Brian&#039;s fantasy&quot; /&gt;</description>
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<blockquote><p>I’m not aware of any scientist asserting that if only more humans would breed more with horses, we’d all evolve bigger ding-dongs.</p></blockquote>
<p>And then Brian said:</p>
<blockquote><p>Thanks a lot, Ron, for the startling image of Coultergeist</p></blockquote>
<p>So here you go, Brian.  Help evolve the human race.  Your filly awaits!</p>
<p><img src="http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/img/2009/mrs-ed.jpg" width="500" height="379" class="centered" alt="Brian's fantasy" /></p>
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		<title>By: Thomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 16:42:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The bible also claims that  bats are birds. Are we going to have to change our animal taxonomy as well?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The bible also claims that  bats are birds. Are we going to have to change our animal taxonomy as well?</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 13:30:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks a lot, Ron, for the startling image of Coultergeist as I&#039;m eating my breakfast. I nearly yodeled groceries.

Alcari is correct. We tend to sometimes overlook the immense psychological, emotional, social, and financial investments believers have made in their faith. Most of the ones I know define their self-image through the filter of their beliefs. Any published scientific paper, any blog article, any comments, including this one, have an extraordinarily small chance of ever truly reaching a believer. Whenever they encounter anything contrary to their dogma, they are also reacting to it as if it were a personal attack as well. 

In effect, we&#039;re insisting that they go back to the drawing board and re-evaluate who they are as a person in very fundamental ways. They have no wish to sever the social ties they&#039;ve built up over a lifetime, and, most importantly, they don&#039;t want to face the possibility (or probability, from my standpoint) that the major explanatory foundation of their lives is a fantasy. Objectively I can understand this and even sympathize to an extent. When its just a single fundie continuing to delude himself, its one thing. But when the delusion is foisted upon unwilling or unwitting parties, then my compassion disappears.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks a lot, Ron, for the startling image of Coultergeist as I&#8217;m eating my breakfast. I nearly yodeled groceries.</p>
<p>Alcari is correct. We tend to sometimes overlook the immense psychological, emotional, social, and financial investments believers have made in their faith. Most of the ones I know define their self-image through the filter of their beliefs. Any published scientific paper, any blog article, any comments, including this one, have an extraordinarily small chance of ever truly reaching a believer. Whenever they encounter anything contrary to their dogma, they are also reacting to it as if it were a personal attack as well. </p>
<p>In effect, we&#8217;re insisting that they go back to the drawing board and re-evaluate who they are as a person in very fundamental ways. They have no wish to sever the social ties they&#8217;ve built up over a lifetime, and, most importantly, they don&#8217;t want to face the possibility (or probability, from my standpoint) that the major explanatory foundation of their lives is a fantasy. Objectively I can understand this and even sympathize to an extent. When its just a single fundie continuing to delude himself, its one thing. But when the delusion is foisted upon unwilling or unwitting parties, then my compassion disappears.</p>
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		<title>By: Alcari</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alcari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 11:58:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And to add to what Sarah says;

It&#039;s hard to admit you&#039;re wrong. It&#039;s even harder if you&#039;ve never had to do it, and when you&#039;ve invested so much in it, both emotionally and financially.

It&#039;s much simpler to say the other guy is wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And to add to what Sarah says;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s hard to admit you&#8217;re wrong. It&#8217;s even harder if you&#8217;ve never had to do it, and when you&#8217;ve invested so much in it, both emotionally and financially.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s much simpler to say the other guy is wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 05:30:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PL: I don&#039;t think it&#039;s &#039;faith&#039; so much as it is a desire for self-assurance and of course, mental habits.

People want to think they can explain everything they see, but they can&#039;t. By coming up with a story, it fills in that empty space in their head and gives them the self-satisfaction that they crave. 

Then of course, we tend to stick with a lot of the facts we were taught as children. If we are not taught how to think for ourselves...then we are stuck in the mentality of our supposed intellectual superior and therefore completely at the mercy of whatever they claim to be truth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PL: I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s &#8216;faith&#8217; so much as it is a desire for self-assurance and of course, mental habits.</p>
<p>People want to think they can explain everything they see, but they can&#8217;t. By coming up with a story, it fills in that empty space in their head and gives them the self-satisfaction that they crave. </p>
<p>Then of course, we tend to stick with a lot of the facts we were taught as children. If we are not taught how to think for ourselves&#8230;then we are stuck in the mentality of our supposed intellectual superior and therefore completely at the mercy of whatever they claim to be truth.</p>
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		<title>By: Parrotlover77</title>
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		<dc:creator>Parrotlover77</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 04:26:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OtherRob - I don&#039;t really have a hard time grasping their thought process.  They have faith.  Lots of faith.  They think everything revolves around faith.  Their entire religion is based on faith.  Therefore, science MUST also be based completely on faith, not evidence.  No matter &lt;em&gt;what&lt;/em&gt; the scientists say.  Afterall, their results must be tainted by their faith in the &lt;em&gt;wrong explanation&lt;/em&gt;.

I get how their minds work.  I just don&#039;t get &lt;em&gt;why&lt;/em&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OtherRob &#8211; I don&#8217;t really have a hard time grasping their thought process.  They have faith.  Lots of faith.  They think everything revolves around faith.  Their entire religion is based on faith.  Therefore, science MUST also be based completely on faith, not evidence.  No matter <em>what</em> the scientists say.  Afterall, their results must be tainted by their faith in the <em>wrong explanation</em>.</p>
<p>I get how their minds work.  I just don&#8217;t get <em>why</em>.</p>
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		<title>By: OtherRob</title>
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		<dc:creator>OtherRob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 02:03:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I stumbled upon a creationist blog the other day. The total lack of understanding of how science works, how scientists think, etc. just astounds me. We&#039;ve seen similar comments on this blog. I just don&#039;t get how their minds work. I just don&#039;t. And I&#039;m just a liberal arts major who happens to appreciate science and, you know, how it attempts to portray the world around us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I stumbled upon a creationist blog the other day. The total lack of understanding of how science works, how scientists think, etc. just astounds me. We&#8217;ve seen similar comments on this blog. I just don&#8217;t get how their minds work. I just don&#8217;t. And I&#8217;m just a liberal arts major who happens to appreciate science and, you know, how it attempts to portray the world around us.</p>
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		<title>By: Alcari</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alcari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 00:28:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Philosophers and scientists rejected that claim for over two thousand years.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Hehe, that&#039;s amusing, seeing how there weren&#039;t any scientists two thousand years ago. Most people would say science only started some 400 years ago, and not very well at that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Philosophers and scientists rejected that claim for over two thousand years.</p></blockquote>
<p>Hehe, that&#8217;s amusing, seeing how there weren&#8217;t any scientists two thousand years ago. Most people would say science only started some 400 years ago, and not very well at that.</p>
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		<title>By: Parrotlover77</title>
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		<dc:creator>Parrotlover77</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 22:53:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The conclusions of several of these have absolutely nothing to do with the biblical assertion.  Scientists conclude animals only reproduce within their own kind does not, in any way, refute evolution of animals.  For example, I&#039;m not aware of any scientist asserting that if only more humans would breed more with horses, we&#039;d all evolve bigger ding-dongs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The conclusions of several of these have absolutely nothing to do with the biblical assertion.  Scientists conclude animals only reproduce within their own kind does not, in any way, refute evolution of animals.  For example, I&#8217;m not aware of any scientist asserting that if only more humans would breed more with horses, we&#8217;d all evolve bigger ding-dongs.</p>
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