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		<title>By: RevRight</title>
		<link>http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/archives/533/welcome-to-nowhere/comment-page-1#comment-29568</link>
		<dc:creator>RevRight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 14:50:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, here&#039;s where I have to agree with you.  As a fundy, I am in a state of near-panic (perhaps even full panic) at the prospect of an Obama administration.  I find that the only thing that alleviates this highly agitated state is to make a donation to Rev. Wildmon&#039;s ministry.  Or pray.  One of the two.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, here&#8217;s where I have to agree with you.  As a fundy, I am in a state of near-panic (perhaps even full panic) at the prospect of an Obama administration.  I find that the only thing that alleviates this highly agitated state is to make a donation to Rev. Wildmon&#8217;s ministry.  Or pray.  One of the two.</p>
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		<title>By: Parrotlover77</title>
		<link>http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/archives/533/welcome-to-nowhere/comment-page-1#comment-29500</link>
		<dc:creator>Parrotlover77</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 14:01:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indeed.  And look at Carter&#039;s legacy?  It&#039;s been tarnished greatly.  Sure, the end of his presidency was not pretty, but there is no saying that he wouldn&#039;t have cleaned up the mess that was only partly his fault.  It was certainly a hell of a lot less of a mess than Dubya, for example.  And Carter did some great things.  One thing that really pisses my wife off is how Reagan ripped off the Solar Panels from the white house that Carter helped install, as part of his call on Congress to start a &quot;Moonshot&quot; style program for energy independence.  With Reagan, that was gone -- all gone.  Now, forty years later, we&#039;re in the same position.  The only difference is that it&#039;s pretty much a matter of national survival to have energy independence.  And if you factor in global warming from fossil fuels, it&#039;s a matter of survival of life as we know it on Earth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed.  And look at Carter&#8217;s legacy?  It&#8217;s been tarnished greatly.  Sure, the end of his presidency was not pretty, but there is no saying that he wouldn&#8217;t have cleaned up the mess that was only partly his fault.  It was certainly a hell of a lot less of a mess than Dubya, for example.  And Carter did some great things.  One thing that really pisses my wife off is how Reagan ripped off the Solar Panels from the white house that Carter helped install, as part of his call on Congress to start a &#8220;Moonshot&#8221; style program for energy independence.  With Reagan, that was gone &#8212; all gone.  Now, forty years later, we&#8217;re in the same position.  The only difference is that it&#8217;s pretty much a matter of national survival to have energy independence.  And if you factor in global warming from fossil fuels, it&#8217;s a matter of survival of life as we know it on Earth.</p>
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		<title>By: ericsan</title>
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		<dc:creator>ericsan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 05:14:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re forgetting that once they were finished with Saint Reagan, they started a huge whitewashing operation on Nixon, of all people. And major actors of the Watergate scandal, who are convicted felons, are currently public figures with blogs, radio shows, book deals, public appearances and the like (North, Liddy, etc...)
Bizarre.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re forgetting that once they were finished with Saint Reagan, they started a huge whitewashing operation on Nixon, of all people. And major actors of the Watergate scandal, who are convicted felons, are currently public figures with blogs, radio shows, book deals, public appearances and the like (North, Liddy, etc&#8230;)<br />
Bizarre.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Britton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron Britton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 15:21:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow.  Just.  Plain.  Wow.

I thought fundies were the worst distorters of reality.  That Powerline article is unreal.  Bush is an excellent speaker?  &quot;He chooses his words with care and precision&quot;?

Left unsaid in that article is how astoundingly bad Reagan was in this department as well.  His administration was in perpetual damage control mode, because Reagan was always shooting his mouth off.  I remember a political cartoon that showed two doors inside the White House.  One was labeled &quot;Department of What We Said&quot;.  The other was labeled &quot;Department of What We Really Meant&quot;.

If you want some real howlers, read the comments on that article.  No wonder Republicans vote the way they do.  They have such a massively distorted view of reality.  It&#039;s not a matter of them simply not living in the same world we do.  They&#039;re not even in the same universe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow.  Just.  Plain.  Wow.</p>
<p>I thought fundies were the worst distorters of reality.  That Powerline article is unreal.  Bush is an excellent speaker?  &#8220;He chooses his words with care and precision&#8221;?</p>
<p>Left unsaid in that article is how astoundingly bad Reagan was in this department as well.  His administration was in perpetual damage control mode, because Reagan was always shooting his mouth off.  I remember a political cartoon that showed two doors inside the White House.  One was labeled &#8220;Department of What We Said&#8221;.  The other was labeled &#8220;Department of What We Really Meant&#8221;.</p>
<p>If you want some real howlers, read the comments on that article.  No wonder Republicans vote the way they do.  They have such a massively distorted view of reality.  It&#8217;s not a matter of them simply not living in the same world we do.  They&#8217;re not even in the same universe.</p>
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		<title>By: Parrotlover77</title>
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		<dc:creator>Parrotlover77</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 14:23:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder how much history will be rewritten by the media 10 years from now with regard to Dubya.  Saint Ronald Reagan&#039;s legacy was certainly rewritten.  Of course, Ronnie actually had a &lt;em&gt;few&lt;/em&gt; good things happen on his watch while the country was bankrupted and W, well, not so much.  It is starting already.  The &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2008/11/022038.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;reality distortion field has been cranked up to 11 at Powerline&lt;/a&gt;.  Let&#039;s hope this narrative does NOT make its way into the so-called &quot;librul media.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder how much history will be rewritten by the media 10 years from now with regard to Dubya.  Saint Ronald Reagan&#8217;s legacy was certainly rewritten.  Of course, Ronnie actually had a <em>few</em> good things happen on his watch while the country was bankrupted and W, well, not so much.  It is starting already.  The <a href="http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2008/11/022038.php" rel="nofollow">reality distortion field has been cranked up to 11 at Powerline</a>.  Let&#8217;s hope this narrative does NOT make its way into the so-called &#8220;librul media.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 13:14:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For everyone out there (and I mean &quot;out there&quot;) who thinks the forthcoming Obama Administration will spell certain doom for mankind, who are overwhelmed with a sense of fear, foreboding and anxiety, who just can&#039;t find anything to be happy about, I say &quot;good&quot;. We&#039;ve tolerated the worst president in modern history, if not all of American history, and as PL said, we&#039;re still here. Conservatives have had their chance - again- to run everything and, unsurprisingly, they&#039;ve fucked it up eight ways to Tuesday. We&#039;ve endured the most disappointing, contemptuous, secretive, and incomprehensible presidency of all time, and now its our turn to be proud. 

So if people like Wildmon tremble in fear every time they turn on the news, all I can do is laugh. When you spend your life advancing whatever bullshit cause you care about through fear and hatred, you deserve to live in the world you&#039;ve created. I have several relatives and in-laws who think the sky will fall on 20 Jan., and I&#039;m not about to dissuade them from their irrational paranoia. Let them sweat. We&#039;ve lived through eight long years of frustration. Now let&#039;s see how they like it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For everyone out there (and I mean &#8220;out there&#8221;) who thinks the forthcoming Obama Administration will spell certain doom for mankind, who are overwhelmed with a sense of fear, foreboding and anxiety, who just can&#8217;t find anything to be happy about, I say &#8220;good&#8221;. We&#8217;ve tolerated the worst president in modern history, if not all of American history, and as PL said, we&#8217;re still here. Conservatives have had their chance &#8211; again- to run everything and, unsurprisingly, they&#8217;ve fucked it up eight ways to Tuesday. We&#8217;ve endured the most disappointing, contemptuous, secretive, and incomprehensible presidency of all time, and now its our turn to be proud. </p>
<p>So if people like Wildmon tremble in fear every time they turn on the news, all I can do is laugh. When you spend your life advancing whatever bullshit cause you care about through fear and hatred, you deserve to live in the world you&#8217;ve created. I have several relatives and in-laws who think the sky will fall on 20 Jan., and I&#8217;m not about to dissuade them from their irrational paranoia. Let them sweat. We&#8217;ve lived through eight long years of frustration. Now let&#8217;s see how they like it.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Britton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron Britton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 20:22:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just realized that something is wrong with that cartoon, and I wanted to be the first to mention it.

Vulcans have green blood.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just realized that something is wrong with that cartoon, and I wanted to be the first to mention it.</p>
<p>Vulcans have green blood.</p>
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		<title>By: Parrotlover77</title>
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		<dc:creator>Parrotlover77</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 19:11:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The damage will be permanent.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Even I, probably the bleedingest heart here at BoF, don&#039;t think that the destruction of the Bush years is &lt;em&gt;permanent&lt;/em&gt;.  However, this nut job is predicting that not only will the ebil libruls mess things up, but that we&#039;ll mess things up so bad that there is &lt;em&gt;no way&lt;/em&gt; to reverse it.

I guess when you are fighting to preserve superstition and silly traditions and you see every new generation rejecting your silliness in growing numbers, it can seem that way to them.  Maybe I shouldn&#039;t have been as surprised as I was in the first paragraph.  Humanity did, indeed, reject his kind.  I hope it &lt;em&gt;is&lt;/em&gt; permanent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The damage will be permanent.</p></blockquote>
<p>Even I, probably the bleedingest heart here at BoF, don&#8217;t think that the destruction of the Bush years is <em>permanent</em>.  However, this nut job is predicting that not only will the ebil libruls mess things up, but that we&#8217;ll mess things up so bad that there is <em>no way</em> to reverse it.</p>
<p>I guess when you are fighting to preserve superstition and silly traditions and you see every new generation rejecting your silliness in growing numbers, it can seem that way to them.  Maybe I shouldn&#8217;t have been as surprised as I was in the first paragraph.  Humanity did, indeed, reject his kind.  I hope it <em>is</em> permanent.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 19:08:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The damage will be deep and long lasting. It cannot be turned around in the next election, or the one after that, or by any election in the future. The damage will be permanent.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

So let it be written; so let it be done. /Yul Brynner accent</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The damage will be deep and long lasting. It cannot be turned around in the next election, or the one after that, or by any election in the future. The damage will be permanent.</p></blockquote>
<p>So let it be written; so let it be done. /Yul Brynner accent</p>
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		<title>By: Lindsay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lindsay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 19:05:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So what were the last 8 years like for Don then?!?!?!?  I don&#039;t think even Bush would call his presidency a &quot;success.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So what were the last 8 years like for Don then?!?!?!?  I don&#8217;t think even Bush would call his presidency a &#8220;success.&#8221;</p>
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