And I’m a Homophobic Equality-Hating Discriminatory Bigot

Proposition 8 is an attempt by James Dobson and other major national fundie groups to impose Bible Belt small-minded hate values upon California.

Here are two videos produced by the No on 8 side, who are trying to prevent hatred, discrimination, and the other “Christian values” from being written into the California constitution.

Prop. 8 is currently ahead in the polls, so it looks like the fundies will have their way. We may not have been founded as a Christian country, but at the rate things are going, we’ll be one soon. And that will be a very horrible place to live in.

15 Responses to “And I’m a Homophobic Equality-Hating Discriminatory Bigot”

  1. Sarah Says:

    Love the joke with the Mac VS PC commericals XD Great job, guys!

  2. Barbara Says:

    Is that Molly Ringwald?

  3. Troy Says:

    The California constitution is pretty hot.

  4. LadyRavana Says:

    Proposition 8 is ahead in the polls?!?!

    OH FUCK ME SIDEWAYS. We’re all doomed. D:

  5. Ron Britton Says:

    I’ve never heard of Survey USA, so I don’t know how credible they are. This graph is consistent with what I’ve heard lately. It comes from an Oct. 17 story by a Fresno TV station. The Yes side is outspending the No side, and making a lot of scary lies in the process. The sheeple are easily fooled. You don’t have to steal civil rights. Just convince the majority to oppress the minority.

    Vote for 8 if you hate

  6. Parrotlover77 Says:

    Well, being the political geek I am, I can say that at least in the Presidential election, Survey USA polls tend to be pretty average compared to the other Presidential polls. For example, if the low outlier is 2% and the high outlier is 10%, Survey USA is usually pretty much in the middle between 5-7%. Of course, that’s a non-scientific analysis, but I don’t have any reason to doubt the validity of their polls.

    Looking at the polling history, No on Prop 8 had a pretty big lead until the beginning of October. I’m curious what sorts of Gays Are The Ebil ads began running around the end of Sept / beginning of Oct.

    Quite sad, really. What’s wrong with Californians?! First they elect the Republicanator as governor and now this? What happened to the blueness of that state?! Blue on the national level is not enough! You have to be blue local too.

  7. Parrotlover77 Says:

    Forgot to mention. Wikipedia has some interesting sections on Prop 8. Apparently, among Asians, Prop 8 is very unpopular. I wonder how that correlates with Christian Asians? I’m assuming there are less Christian Asians than the population at large, due to cultural differences. I wonder if they see it for what it is more easily since they don’t have the blood-stained Christian glasses.

  8. OtherRob Says:

    One thing I have never understood about the argument against gay marriage is that it is a threat to traditional marriage. How? How is it a threat? I’ve been married for over 13 years now and I just absolutely fail to see how two men or two women getting married could be a threat to it. Is there anyone reading this blog who is opposed to gay marriage? Could someone tell me how it is a threat to mine?

  9. griffon8 Says:

    A friend of mine made a webcomic that addressed this.

    http://www.quirkspace.com/comic/index.php?date=2006-06-09

    Note that this was over two years ago…

  10. Bacopa Says:

    OtherRob must be in one of those godless marriages that is all about expressing love and commiment and getting a shortcut to all kids of legal convieniences rather than re-enacting some alien myth. Only the deluded partners in such a sham marriage could fail to see how gay marriage is a threat.

  11. Parrotlover77 Says:

    OtherRob – I actually have the answer. It’s nonsense, of course, but when they say it’s a “threat” they are actually upset that their special man+woman conjunction is no longer just man+woman. Now, I’m sure that’s a disappointing answser. I told you it’s nonsense. it’s like a little kid not wanting to give up his favorite blanket – his binky. Marriage is considered by fundies to be this special thing that the gheys aren’t allowed to do, and they like it like that.

    That’s it.

    Stupid.

  12. OtherRob Says:

    Yeah, I guess I just don’t get it. And I guess there are a lot of folks would consider my wife and I evil because we think that any two people who want to commit themselves to each other should be able to. Sigh….

  13. Brian Says:

    OtherRob,

    If I might add my two cents to your question, I’d like to say that religion depends absolutely on the demonization of “out groups”, or in this specific instance, anyone who is not a white, heterosexual (maybe), evangelical Christian. If you’re not in the club, you’re in league with Satan, I’m afraid. Gays and lesbians happen to be favorite targets of fundies because they have the audacity to demand equality when it comes to who they choose to commit themselves to for the rest of their lives.

    Fundies also suffer from a dismaying proclivity to accept the bible as completely accurate, no matter what contradictory facts they might encounter. It is necessary to their belief system that they continue thinking that homosexuality is a choice. If they ever were to enter the 21st century and accept that homosexuality is actually a natural occurrence, then they’d have to reconcile the whole “gayness is evil” thing with the god they believe in that caused them to be born gay in the first place. That’s a circle they cannot square.

    Lastly, I think some of the vehemence that is coming from fundies on this issue is a result of some measure of reality penetrating their dull intellects, whether they want it to or not. I really do think that some of them know that they are on the losing side of this, they’re pissed off about it, and want to go down swinging. In a generation, gay rights may very well no longer even be an issue, I hope. But when you’re convinced that god is on your side, any behavior is justified, no matter how offensive or insulting it might be to fellow members of your species. They simply do not know any better, and furthermore, they are proud of that ignorance. The only way to neutralize their effect is to outnumber them.

  14. Ron Britton Says:

    Brian:

    …anyone who is not a white…

    To be fair, some fundies have gone beyond the racism. I really believe that some fundies are colorblind. Many are not, of course, which is why Obama isn’t polling much higher than he is. If he were a white guy with a Muslim father, you’d still hear a lot of the same crap, but it wouldn’t be quite as loud, because there would be fewer people saying it.

    Gays and lesbians happen to be favorite targets of fundies because they have the audacity to demand equality when it comes to who they choose to commit themselves to for the rest of their lives.

    Yes, it’s partly that they demand equality. To a fundie, gays and lesbians are massive sinners. Sinners don’t deserve equality. Related to that is that Gays aren’t God’s chosen people. Gays are not equal to God’s chosen people, so they don’t deserve the same rights.

    But the other major factor is that many fundies are fixated on (and repulsed by) the mechanics of gay sex. It’s an unhealthy fixation. If you listen to some fundie leaders, this is what they keep bringing up. You’d think they’d just stick to the fact that the Bible disapproves of homosexuality, but no, they have to keep talking about the butt sex. The discrimination is a way of containing their fixation.

    If there were a large (hetero) prostitute-rights movement, fundies would be less strident. They’d still be opposed, partly because they’d view it as a stealth way to legalize prostitution. (They’d probably also be opposed, because it devalues the time they spend with prostitutes.)

    Both of these examples involve sex, which is the fundies’ biggest fixation. Move yet another step away to a non-sex sin. It could be pathological lying or alcoholism. The fundies would stick primarily to admonishments. Why aren’t fundies calling for life sentences for perjury or drunk driving?

    It is necessary to their belief system that they continue thinking that homosexuality is a choice. If they ever were to enter the 21st century and accept that homosexuality is actually a natural occurrence, then they’d have to reconcile the whole “gayness is evil” thing with the god they believe in that caused them to be born gay in the first place. That’s a circle they cannot square.

    Some fundies seem to admit that homosexuals are born that way. I’ve seen some who say that it’s OK to be gay, as long as you don’t engage in the sinful behavior (again, there’s that fixation on anal sex). Ray Comfort is always talking about if you lust in your heart it’s the same thing as committing adultery, so I’m willing to guess he’s not in this camp.

    I really do think that some of them know that they are on the losing side of this, they’re pissed off about it, and want to go down swinging.

    This is a very large factor. Remember that fundies are extremists. They hold to a very restrictive set of beliefs about what is acceptable behavior. Our society is multicultural, (mostly) tolerant, and (mostly) inclusive. They feel like outsiders already. They feel like their beliefs are under attack. Hate laws like Proposition 8 are their attempts to try to regain the upper hand.

    They are also convinced that this was a Christian country founded on the Bible. What we have today clearly is not. Their attempts to remold the country stem not only from their wanting it to be like them. They have a sense of entitlement. They think the country was like them, and they’re trying to restore it to some fictionalized ideal.

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