Good Thing the Right-Wingers Can See Through the Facade

Because we on the left are too easily fooled. Look who I almost voted for!

Barack Obama is a Muslim? Who knew?

(Image presented as factual at The Midnight Sun.)

19 Responses to “Good Thing the Right-Wingers Can See Through the Facade”

  1. Private Tom Says:

    It’s amazing how much the Righties can read from a person’s skin colour. They must have had training from a CofCC camp on identifying closet towlheads. Clever bunch.

  2. Brian Says:

    One of my co-workers is a bright young kid of about 21 who shocked me the other day by spouting the Obama-Islam crap. When I pressed him about why he believed that, he really couldn’t give me a straight answer (I suspect he’s expressing some degree of racism), so I hit upon what seemed to be a pretty effective response. I told him that, as an atheist, I have no more love for Islam than I do Christianity. I asked him if he really believed that if Obama really was a radical muslim, that I, a card-carrying atheist, would be willing to overlook that. I went on to say that most atheists seem to be favoring Obama, and that we’re a pretty good bunch for detecting bullshit, so that doesn’t make rumors about Obama’s religion likely to be true.

    I’ve since watched that sit-down both Obama and McCain had with Rick Warren. I can’t deny that Obama’s religiosity is a disappointment to me, and that it seems to cloud his otherwise sound reasoning on matters of social policy, such as marriage equality. But on balance, the overall benefit he offers outweighs these negatives, and by a lot..

  3. Parrotlover77 Says:

    Brian – I agree. I hate that he’s essentially a religious nut, but I take comfort in the fact that he actually cares about the constitution enough to know he shouldn’t muck with it.

    The worst part of that fiasco was, of course, that it took place at all. The leader of the free world (so-to-speak) has to pander to the modern cult of death in order to get elected. Never mind which candidate will actually govern better, we need some more praying! It’s worked SO well these past eight years!

  4. Lindsay Says:

    I was dissapointed too. But you know that Obama would have (literally and figuratively) been crucified had he not participated.

  5. Sarah Says:

    Parrot: It’s like reading the Sneeches again. “If you don’t have a star on your belly, you’re not one of us and can go live on the crap end of the beach…NO, YOU CANNOT PLAY WITH OUR GOD DAMN STAR-BALL, YOU STARLESS JACKASS!”

    Oh, Dr. Seuss…I miss you terribly.

  6. Sue Blue Says:

    LOL, Sarah! I loved that story about the star-bellied Sneeches, and those who “have no stars upon thars”. Unfortunately, rightwing wackaloons seem to suffer from a complete lack of humor or sense of irony, and Dr. Seuss would be totally beyond them. When they hit on an issue they think is somehow important (no matter how stupid or false), they keep beating that horse until it’s not only dead, but fly-blown and stinking.

    The only difference between these asshats and the Ku Klux Klan their daddies probably belonged to is that wearing sheets isn’t fashionable anymore.

  7. Sue Blue Says:

    I, like many atheists, was disturbed that Obama felt he had to take part in the religious time-waster on Saturday. I was even more disturbed that a certified misogynist swinging-dick like Rick Warren was running the show. Religion needs to be marginalized, and presidential candidates that are willing to give the likes of Warren the time of day is not the way to do it. I realize that Obama considers himself a Christian, and he wants to appeal to as many voters as possible, but I still wish he had shown a little more spine and had refused to be associated with the circus of the idiots.

  8. Brian Says:

    What really bugged me about this forum is how some of the questions were phrased, as if to suggest, for example, that adult stem cell research had now become the most promising line of research in this field, when in fact that statement is nothing more than a right-wing talking point. Arrrgghh!

    I know in the past I have said things about McCain on this blog that in retrospect seemed astoundingly optimistic, especially given his curt, red-meat answers to Warren. I felt it necessary to acknowledge that before I mentioned how absolutely insane and frightening his answers were. The most dangerous thing about a McCain presidency, if he could ram them through the senate, would be his Supreme Court nominees. I expect two or three vacancies in the next four years, and all of them will come from the liberal wing of the bench. That alone is a sufficient reason to make sure Obama wins this thing.

    Sue Blue, you were absolutely right to say that religion in America must be marginalized. It is nothing less than an “intellectual emergency”, in the words of Sam Harris, that in the 21st century, after having set foot on the moon, discovered and mapped the human genome, and being close to probing the instant of the universe’s birth at the LHC in Europe, we still insist on screening our candidates for what is perhaps the most important job in the word through the absurd and preposterous filter of religion. Not only must our president believe in a capricious and insecure monster in the sky in order to make sound decisions, it must be the Christian version of that abomination he or she must bow in subservience to. How much more fucked up can THAT get?

    I need to stop writing now. The more I think about this the angrier I get.

  9. LadyRavana Says:

    Brian and PL-

    I don’t think that Obama is a religious nut. (Politely disagreeing here) It’s been stated here before, but candidates are essentially forced to wear their religion/faith on their sleeves, and if they don’t parrot Christian rhetoric, they’re screwed.

    So…he may be far more moderate in his views, but he’s trying to appeal to a Christian base. But…feel free to correct me if I’m wrong. 🙂

    But then, maybe I’m living in denial that Obama’s blabbing about Jeebus because he has to.

  10. Troy Says:

    It is a bit sad both sides go after the religious right. I guess it is like kissing babies (most anyway) don’t want to do it, and you only do it every four years, but do it or you’ll go nowhere.

  11. Brian Says:

    LadyR,

    I don’t think he’s a nut, either. He is a very smart and savvy politician who knows the lay of the electoral land better than anyone else today, and he knows he has to win some of these people to at least neutralize whatever advantage they might give McCain, much like they did for Bush in 2000 and 2004 (oh, and by the way, THANKS for THAT, you evangelical fuckers). That he happens to be one of them makes it easy for him to talk in the language of religious faith, and while it is off-putting for people like us, at least he has given no indication that he would shit on the Constitution like our current dear leader has. I can live with that even if I will always be baffled that someone of Obama’s obvious intelligence and judgement would allow himself to be bamboozled by one of the oldest scams in history.

  12. Sarah Says:

    Sue: Dr. Seuss taught me more than most of the teachers I had in junior high.

    I entertain the idea that all the right-wingers were brought up on the holy tales of death and destruction rather wholesome literature like ‘The Fox in Socks’, ‘Oh the Places You’ll Go’, and ‘Mr. Brown can Moo, can You?’ Stuff like that must completely go over their heads.

    Sneeches FTW! I swear…if I ever get photoshop, I’m gonna paste the photos of all these nutty politicians and Bible-thumps over the heads of the Sneeches and send it to Rob. It would definitely be good for some lulz.

  13. Rogi Says:

    Holy shit, they finally found Bin Laden, who knew that all this time he was in U.S., running for president.

  14. Parrotlover77 Says:

    True, Obama is not a “religious nut” in that he won’t govern from the bible, but he is very religious — always has been. I doubt it’s an act. Maybe his “pandering” is over the top to get elected, but he’s more religious than, say, the Clintons probably are. Either way, I have no problems voting for a devout Christian as long as they govern from the Constitution and not the bible.

  15. LadyRavana Says:

    Well-said, PL. I don’t care if a President is Atheist, Pagan, Wiccan, Buddhist, or what have you, I just want him to be competent, and be able to do the damn job, and give a shit about the American people, rather than fucking us up our collective asses.

    And well, while Obama may be religious…I do think he’ll do a lot better at keeping church and state separate.

  16. LadyRavana Says:

    I can live with that even if I will always be baffled that someone of Obama’s obvious intelligence and judgement would allow himself to be bamboozled by one of the oldest scams in history.

    Just wanted to add, I’m in total agreement with this. The more I’ve researched the Bible in recent years, the more I’ve realized how ridiculous, stupid, and contradictory it really is.

    Although, it is fun to take Scripture, and throw a Fundie’s hypocrisy right back into their face. Or totally pwn them with science.

  17. Sue Blue Says:

    Remember that old song that goes “she blinded me with science…she hit me with technology.” That’s what I like to do with fundies. Although I consider it to be opening people’s eyes rather than blinding them.

  18. S. Says:

    Well-said, PL. I don’t care if a President is Atheist, Pagan, Wiccan, Buddhist, or what have you, I just want him to be competent, and be able to do the damn job, and give a shit about the American people, rather than fucking us up our collective asses.

    I agree.The repubs have done nothing but whatever their own agenda entails (all the while playing the religious card),then lying to us with a smile on their face at the same time! I was watching an old video on youtube…I literally had to turn the sound down when former Prez Reagan came on..he was always such a fake that I couldn’t stand it…now there’s a actor/Prez who could say anything he wanted,and as long as he said it eloquently,he had all the idiots of the USA kissing his butt!! Amazing where acting skills will get you!

  19. S. Says:

    And well, while Obama may be religious…I do think he’ll do a lot better at keeping church and state separate.

    and getting us the hell out of Iraq! If McCain wins,lock up your sons,send them to another country…whatever it takes! Let the ones who voted for him send their kids!

    I read the sorriest excuse for McCain the other day…it was that the things he’d done wrong were so long ago,that it didn’t matter now.Oh please!!