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		<title>by: Nate</title>
		<link>http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/archives/443/save-your-ipod-save-your-soul#comment-20034</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 22:36:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>VaxTex repairs iPods and other small electronics - though i think they mostly advertise iPod repair.  They do offer free two-way shipping within NY state and free return shipping in all other states.  They respond quickly to emails and are always polite.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>VaxTex repairs iPods and other small electronics - though i think they mostly advertise iPod repair.  They do offer free two-way shipping within NY state and free return shipping in all other states.  They respond quickly to emails and are always polite.
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		<title>by: Chuck</title>
		<link>http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/archives/443/save-your-ipod-save-your-soul#comment-19919</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 22:14:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I probably would've purchased it from them, if it was cheapest. Good thing it wasn't the cheapest available. Ultimately, though, the profit from the sale goes to Toshiba, a Japanese company, and, if the threat of donations to religious enterprises by big businesses keeps you up at night, rest assured that Japan is the &lt;a href="http://people-press.org/report/167/among-wealthy-nations-…" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"&gt;most atheistic country in the known world&lt;/a&gt;.

Besides, I highly doubt a company of geeks is rife with religious affiliation...so, although you chose to go with eBay (which, a priori, might seem to be a good choice - but did you consider the likelihood of eBay being founded by fundies?), I probably would've just bought theirs, knowing that their pitiful little religion wasn't getting the majority of my money, despite their little "Buy Jesus" ad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I probably would&#8217;ve purchased it from them, if it was cheapest. Good thing it wasn&#8217;t the cheapest available. Ultimately, though, the profit from the sale goes to Toshiba, a Japanese company, and, if the threat of donations to religious enterprises by big businesses keeps you up at night, rest assured that Japan is the <a href="http://people-press.org/report/167/among-wealthy-nations-…" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">most atheistic country in the known world</a>.</p>
<p>Besides, I highly doubt a company of geeks is rife with religious affiliation&#8230;so, although you chose to go with eBay (which, a priori, might seem to be a good choice - but did you consider the likelihood of eBay being founded by fundies?), I probably would&#8217;ve just bought theirs, knowing that their pitiful little religion wasn&#8217;t getting the majority of my money, despite their little &#8220;Buy Jesus&#8221; ad.
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		<title>by: LadyRavana</title>
		<link>http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/archives/443/save-your-ipod-save-your-soul#comment-19773</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 04:03:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>In this business' defense: at least that link was tucked away in a quiet corner of their website, rather than displaying it all over the place loudly and obnoxiously...so, while the site may have a Christian bent, I wouldn't necessarily call them fundie. They didn't seem to be actively proselytizing, although I will admit that it is kinda sneaky. Underhanded proselytizing?

Just my thoughts.

But then again...on the flip side, they might be trying to hoodwink sheeple into buying their product, and charging a higher price for it. "Hey, this is a good Christian company! I'll buy from them! They share my beliefs, yay!"

When one can easily go to a secular site and buy the same thing, for like 10 bucks cheaper, as you did Ron.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this business&#8217; defense: at least that link was tucked away in a quiet corner of their website, rather than displaying it all over the place loudly and obnoxiously&#8230;so, while the site may have a Christian bent, I wouldn&#8217;t necessarily call them fundie. They didn&#8217;t seem to be actively proselytizing, although I will admit that it is kinda sneaky. Underhanded proselytizing?</p>
<p>Just my thoughts.</p>
<p>But then again&#8230;on the flip side, they might be trying to hoodwink sheeple into buying their product, and charging a higher price for it. &#8220;Hey, this is a good Christian company! I&#8217;ll buy from them! They share my beliefs, yay!&#8221;</p>
<p>When one can easily go to a secular site and buy the same thing, for like 10 bucks cheaper, as you did Ron.
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		<title>by: TomDem55</title>
		<link>http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/archives/443/save-your-ipod-save-your-soul#comment-19772</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 03:54:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Yes, I stumbled over their jesus is a computer web page, I liked their do it yourself stuff, and their prices, but they lost me when they went religion on me, what has that to do with computers, I mean does the bible have a section on computer repair??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I stumbled over their jesus is a computer web page, I liked their do it yourself stuff, and their prices, but they lost me when they went religion on me, what has that to do with computers, I mean does the bible have a section on computer repair??
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		<title>by: Parrotlover77</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 03:12:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>First Disney, now McDonalds.  Pretty soon those fundies won't have any places to drop off their kids while they lament the fact that they aren't allowed to use condoms.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First Disney, now McDonalds.  Pretty soon those fundies won&#8217;t have any places to drop off their kids while they lament the fact that they aren&#8217;t allowed to use condoms.
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		<title>by: Brian</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 01:31:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>In a somewhat related story, I just read that the American Family Association, led by the verminous Donald Wildmon, is now boycotting McDonald's because they recently donated $20K to some lesbian and gay organization. They've gone a while without a good gay-bashing boycott, so I suppose they're overdue. 

This creates something of a dilemma for me. I love their breakfast bagels, but I refrain from eating them because they will one day kill me. On the other hand, if I hit the drive-through tomorrow morning, I'm contributing in my own small way to something that pisses people like the AFA off, and maybe that in itself is worth the risk to my arteries. 

What am I worried about? McDonald's will more than likely cave in to these pious fucks and that'll remove any incentive to ingest their "food".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a somewhat related story, I just read that the American Family Association, led by the verminous Donald Wildmon, is now boycotting McDonald&#8217;s because they recently donated $20K to some lesbian and gay organization. They&#8217;ve gone a while without a good gay-bashing boycott, so I suppose they&#8217;re overdue. </p>
<p>This creates something of a dilemma for me. I love their breakfast bagels, but I refrain from eating them because they will one day kill me. On the other hand, if I hit the drive-through tomorrow morning, I&#8217;m contributing in my own small way to something that pisses people like the AFA off, and maybe that in itself is worth the risk to my arteries. </p>
<p>What am I worried about? McDonald&#8217;s will more than likely cave in to these pious fucks and that&#8217;ll remove any incentive to ingest their &#8220;food&#8221;.
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		<title>by: Jeremy White</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 22:38:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Chik-fil-a has never seemed overly religious to me. I've never seen or heard anyone talk about god or religion. They some tasty chicken, especially the All-You-Can-Eat Tuesdays in my area. I haven't been to their website though. I won't patronize a business that flaunts their religion like a badge of honor but if the owners personally find it a sin for them to work on Sunday and it's their business, so that's fine. I wouldn't ask them to do something against their religious beliefs. I won't be offended by others peoples beliefs if they don't force it on me. 

On a related note, my work team was looking to hire a new web developer. A candidate's portfolios consisted of a lot of church websites. Fine by me. Then I found his own small business website. He made it abrasively clear that he was Christian and his main life goal was to convert people. I followed a big link on that site to his Christ blog which talked about his adventures in converting people. Someone so willing to put their personal agenda in their work is not someone I needed to deal with.  

He probably wants to work with someone christian, so I was happy to let him find a more suitable employer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chik-fil-a has never seemed overly religious to me. I&#8217;ve never seen or heard anyone talk about god or religion. They some tasty chicken, especially the All-You-Can-Eat Tuesdays in my area. I haven&#8217;t been to their website though. I won&#8217;t patronize a business that flaunts their religion like a badge of honor but if the owners personally find it a sin for them to work on Sunday and it&#8217;s their business, so that&#8217;s fine. I wouldn&#8217;t ask them to do something against their religious beliefs. I won&#8217;t be offended by others peoples beliefs if they don&#8217;t force it on me. </p>
<p>On a related note, my work team was looking to hire a new web developer. A candidate&#8217;s portfolios consisted of a lot of church websites. Fine by me. Then I found his own small business website. He made it abrasively clear that he was Christian and his main life goal was to convert people. I followed a big link on that site to his Christ blog which talked about his adventures in converting people. Someone so willing to put their personal agenda in their work is not someone I needed to deal with.  </p>
<p>He probably wants to work with someone christian, so I was happy to let him find a more suitable employer.
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		<title>by: Ron Britton</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 14:24:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>wwyoud:

My objection is just to the people who find it necessary to push their religion onto others.  I don't see why they feel compelled to have that page on their site.  But like I said in the article, it was low key.  It's not like some places I've been to, which blaze their fish and Bible quotes on every page.

All things being equal, I will patronize the place that isn't trying to convert me, even politely.  I'm not going to boycott the Christian business.  It's just one of many factors I consider when making a choice.  In fact, if iFixit had been significantly cheaper, I would have bought from them anyway.  When I saw that page on their site, I decided to spend another ten minutes just to see if there was another option.

&lt;blockquote&gt;how can we know that the unmarked places we shop at aren’t virulently fundie?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That's why I don't weigh the Jesus marking too heavily.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wwyoud:</p>
<p>My objection is just to the people who find it necessary to push their religion onto others.  I don&#8217;t see why they feel compelled to have that page on their site.  But like I said in the article, it was low key.  It&#8217;s not like some places I&#8217;ve been to, which blaze their fish and Bible quotes on every page.</p>
<p>All things being equal, I will patronize the place that isn&#8217;t trying to convert me, even politely.  I&#8217;m not going to boycott the Christian business.  It&#8217;s just one of many factors I consider when making a choice.  In fact, if iFixit had been significantly cheaper, I would have bought from them anyway.  When I saw that page on their site, I decided to spend another ten minutes just to see if there was another option.</p>
<blockquote><p>how can we know that the unmarked places we shop at aren’t virulently fundie?</p></blockquote>
<p>That&#8217;s why I don&#8217;t weigh the Jesus marking too heavily.
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		<title>by: wwyoud</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 14:05:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>It did sound like you decided not to buy from FixIt; you were "ready to plunk down my money and buy their hard drive" but ended up going elsewhere after finding their statement of beliefs. I don't much care for those who blaze their symbols, either, although most I've done business with also had very good reputations for their work. They are rarely my first choice, because they often spend a lot of their profits on religious institutions that I don't support, and I don't want to find one who simply MUST determine if I'm saved or not. I used to live in a small town with only one vacuum repair shop; when I need that service, I ended up being harassed  because I made the mistake of answering his questions truthfully about my soul. :) I ended up buying a new vacuum elsewhere.

That said, many of these religious people that I know also use their money on services I do support - giving to food banks, helping elderly folks with their yard work and home repairs, checking on the needy in their area after bad storms, supporting public school programs - all without a requirement that those helped hold the same beliefs. My 50 cents of that total is hardly worth an extra hour or two trying to find a non-religious business in most cases. I think that just because they are doing what their faith says-advertise!-is not a good reason to automatically refuse to do business with them. Besides, how can we know that the unmarked places we shop at aren't virulently fundie? The woman answering the phone, the man working in the warehouse...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It did sound like you decided not to buy from FixIt; you were &#8220;ready to plunk down my money and buy their hard drive&#8221; but ended up going elsewhere after finding their statement of beliefs. I don&#8217;t much care for those who blaze their symbols, either, although most I&#8217;ve done business with also had very good reputations for their work. They are rarely my first choice, because they often spend a lot of their profits on religious institutions that I don&#8217;t support, and I don&#8217;t want to find one who simply MUST determine if I&#8217;m saved or not. I used to live in a small town with only one vacuum repair shop; when I need that service, I ended up being harassed  because I made the mistake of answering his questions truthfully about my soul. <img src='http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  I ended up buying a new vacuum elsewhere.</p>
<p>That said, many of these religious people that I know also use their money on services I do support - giving to food banks, helping elderly folks with their yard work and home repairs, checking on the needy in their area after bad storms, supporting public school programs - all without a requirement that those helped hold the same beliefs. My 50 cents of that total is hardly worth an extra hour or two trying to find a non-religious business in most cases. I think that just because they are doing what their faith says-advertise!-is not a good reason to automatically refuse to do business with them. Besides, how can we know that the unmarked places we shop at aren&#8217;t virulently fundie? The woman answering the phone, the man working in the warehouse&#8230;
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		<title>by: Parrotlover77</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 13:17:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>No offense, ericsan, but that pizza recipe you linked to doesn't really sing to me. lol.  Maybe i'm just too "american" and need my grease quotient (or an approximation thereof -- I do like low-fat cheese and morningstar/boca/quorn meat substitutes, for example).  Zuchinni and sweet potato pizza?  Screw that!  Give me them thar freedom fries son!  ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No offense, ericsan, but that pizza recipe you linked to doesn&#8217;t really sing to me. lol.  Maybe i&#8217;m just too &#8220;american&#8221; and need my grease quotient (or an approximation thereof &#8212; I do like low-fat cheese and morningstar/boca/quorn meat substitutes, for example).  Zuchinni and sweet potato pizza?  Screw that!  Give me them thar freedom fries son!  <img src='http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />
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		<title>by: Parrotlover77</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 13:15:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>ericsan - but artery clogging garbage tastes oh so good and making homemade pizza crust takes so long.  i have a great recipe, but it takes a minimum of 5 hours to make.

(either way I rarely patronize Dominos if for no other reason than they have no coupons online when EVERY one of their competitors DOES.  I'll be damned if I'm payin full price for a pizza!  greedy christians!  ;-) )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ericsan - but artery clogging garbage tastes oh so good and making homemade pizza crust takes so long.  i have a great recipe, but it takes a minimum of 5 hours to make.</p>
<p>(either way I rarely patronize Dominos if for no other reason than they have no coupons online when EVERY one of their competitors DOES.  I&#8217;ll be damned if I&#8217;m payin full price for a pizza!  greedy christians!  <img src='http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  )
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		<title>by: ericsan</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 05:41:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>@Brian: Thanks for the Chick-Fil-A info. I had no idea they were such retards. http://chick-fil-a.com/?#closedonsundays

Tough shit if you're a Jew, I guess. I can never understand why these people feel compelled to make such a big deal about their beliefs. I suppose by wwyoud's standards it's a "tastefully done" statement... To me, it really reeks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Brian: Thanks for the Chick-Fil-A info. I had no idea they were such retards. <a href="http://chick-fil-a.com/?#closedonsundays" rel="nofollow">http://chick-fil-a.com/?#closedonsundays</a></p>
<p>Tough shit if you&#8217;re a Jew, I guess. I can never understand why these people feel compelled to make such a big deal about their beliefs. I suppose by wwyoud&#8217;s standards it&#8217;s a &#8220;tastefully done&#8221; statement&#8230; To me, it really reeks.
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