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	<title>Comments on: It Sure Sucks to be a Creationist Right Now</title>
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		<title>by: Clanaman</title>
		<link>http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/archives/440/it-sure-sucks-to-be-a-creationist-right-now#comment-19924</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 23:07:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Sue Blue, 

If you haven't yet you should read letters from the earth. Just having it in my possession has spawned many highly entertaining arguments with my parents, grandparents and so on. reading it is also fun as well. I'm letting your daughter borrow it and I have no problem letting stay at your place if you wish to read it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sue Blue, </p>
<p>If you haven&#8217;t yet you should read letters from the earth. Just having it in my possession has spawned many highly entertaining arguments with my parents, grandparents and so on. reading it is also fun as well. I&#8217;m letting your daughter borrow it and I have no problem letting stay at your place if you wish to read it.
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		<title>by: Parrotlover77</title>
		<link>http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/archives/440/it-sure-sucks-to-be-a-creationist-right-now#comment-19460</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 14:49:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>True, bad wording on my part.  I more meant that I didn't want anybody to THINK that was a sweeping statement of Florida as a whole.  I did not mean to say he was making that sort of statement on purpose (bad wording, I apologize).  I would venture to guess he grew up in northern Florida, perhaps around the panhandle, because that's certainly a much more backwards part of the state than the rest (where most people live).  To be fair, I did not grow up in a major urban area either, but I did have the advantage of living in a college town, so that may have influenced the local schools more than in very rural areas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True, bad wording on my part.  I more meant that I didn&#8217;t want anybody to THINK that was a sweeping statement of Florida as a whole.  I did not mean to say he was making that sort of statement on purpose (bad wording, I apologize).  I would venture to guess he grew up in northern Florida, perhaps around the panhandle, because that&#8217;s certainly a much more backwards part of the state than the rest (where most people live).  To be fair, I did not grow up in a major urban area either, but I did have the advantage of living in a college town, so that may have influenced the local schools more than in very rural areas.
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		<title>by: ericsan</title>
		<link>http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/archives/440/it-sure-sucks-to-be-a-creationist-right-now#comment-19446</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 05:40:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Actually, ParrotLover, he didn't make a sweeping statement, just related his personal experience. Unfortunately I don't remember where he grew up (or, even more ebarrassingly, his name) but I'm pretty sure it wasn't one of the major urban areas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, ParrotLover, he didn&#8217;t make a sweeping statement, just related his personal experience. Unfortunately I don&#8217;t remember where he grew up (or, even more ebarrassingly, his name) but I&#8217;m pretty sure it wasn&#8217;t one of the major urban areas.
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		<title>by: Parrotlover77</title>
		<link>http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/archives/440/it-sure-sucks-to-be-a-creationist-right-now#comment-19324</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 13:16:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>SB - that's part of the reason I basically never talk to my fundie relatives about religion.  I highly doubt they know my stance and, well, that's good.  They'll die never knowing that I'm going to hell. ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SB - that&#8217;s part of the reason I basically never talk to my fundie relatives about religion.  I highly doubt they know my stance and, well, that&#8217;s good.  They&#8217;ll die never knowing that I&#8217;m going to hell. <img src='http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />
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		<title>by: Sue Blue</title>
		<link>http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/archives/440/it-sure-sucks-to-be-a-creationist-right-now#comment-19288</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 23:00:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/archives/440/it-sure-sucks-to-be-a-creationist-right-now#comment-19288</guid>
					<description>Thanks, Ron, for that video.  It really hits the spot, doesn't it?  I think I'll send it to my  family, although their standard response to bits of reason and logic is that it's all a trick of Satan.  

And thanks, Lady R!  Humor is the only way I can cope with the insults to reason and logic I encounter every friggin' day with my family.  Reading the intelligent comments on this blog really help!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Ron, for that video.  It really hits the spot, doesn&#8217;t it?  I think I&#8217;ll send it to my  family, although their standard response to bits of reason and logic is that it&#8217;s all a trick of Satan.  </p>
<p>And thanks, Lady R!  Humor is the only way I can cope with the insults to reason and logic I encounter every friggin&#8217; day with my family.  Reading the intelligent comments on this blog really help!
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		<title>by: LadyRavana</title>
		<link>http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/archives/440/it-sure-sucks-to-be-a-creationist-right-now#comment-19283</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 22:16:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/archives/440/it-sure-sucks-to-be-a-creationist-right-now#comment-19283</guid>
					<description>LMAO! Sue Blue, you are a freaking RIOT!

Truely, you are the queen of snark.

You totally win at life. For realz, yo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LMAO! Sue Blue, you are a freaking RIOT!</p>
<p>Truely, you are the queen of snark.</p>
<p>You totally win at life. For realz, yo.
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		<title>by: Sue Blue</title>
		<link>http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/archives/440/it-sure-sucks-to-be-a-creationist-right-now#comment-19281</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 21:51:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/archives/440/it-sure-sucks-to-be-a-creationist-right-now#comment-19281</guid>
					<description>Crime Scene:  Earth      Crime:  Perpetration of Life     Suspects:  God, Evolution

Evolution:  The crime scene reeks with this guy's trace evidence.  His fingerprints and DNA are everywhere, so thick it's like the guy was trying to get caught.  The bodies are piled up in his basement by the hundreds - maybe by the thousands - one on top of the other, each bearing his signature MO.   He's been caught red-handed in the middle of multiple acts of natural selection, blatant adaptation - even a speciation or two.  He's unrepentant, vowing to keep on doing what he does, because he can't help it - it's just the way he is.

God:  He's the guy that got arrested because his cousin Billy Bob said he mighta done it, the cops thought he looked good for it cuz nobody else was around at the time (accordin' to Billy Bob), and the DA "had a gut-feelin' about this guy.  And I always trust m'gut."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Crime Scene:  Earth      Crime:  Perpetration of Life     Suspects:  God, Evolution</p>
<p>Evolution:  The crime scene reeks with this guy&#8217;s trace evidence.  His fingerprints and DNA are everywhere, so thick it&#8217;s like the guy was trying to get caught.  The bodies are piled up in his basement by the hundreds - maybe by the thousands - one on top of the other, each bearing his signature MO.   He&#8217;s been caught red-handed in the middle of multiple acts of natural selection, blatant adaptation - even a speciation or two.  He&#8217;s unrepentant, vowing to keep on doing what he does, because he can&#8217;t help it - it&#8217;s just the way he is.</p>
<p>God:  He&#8217;s the guy that got arrested because his cousin Billy Bob said he mighta done it, the cops thought he looked good for it cuz nobody else was around at the time (accordin&#8217; to Billy Bob), and the DA &#8220;had a gut-feelin&#8217; about this guy.  And I always trust m&#8217;gut.&#8221;
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		<title>by: Sue Blue</title>
		<link>http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/archives/440/it-sure-sucks-to-be-a-creationist-right-now#comment-19277</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 20:56:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Peace Warrior - go ahead, keep upholding the Ostrich Principle, if it helps you deal with life.  Too bad that sand encircling your neck and blocking out the sounds and sights of reality doesn't mean that reality isn't happening all around you.

And that's all the time I'm going to waste on the troll.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peace Warrior - go ahead, keep upholding the Ostrich Principle, if it helps you deal with life.  Too bad that sand encircling your neck and blocking out the sounds and sights of reality doesn&#8217;t mean that reality isn&#8217;t happening all around you.</p>
<p>And that&#8217;s all the time I&#8217;m going to waste on the troll.
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		<title>by: Sue Blue</title>
		<link>http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/archives/440/it-sure-sucks-to-be-a-creationist-right-now#comment-19276</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 20:47:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/archives/440/it-sure-sucks-to-be-a-creationist-right-now#comment-19276</guid>
					<description>Oh, and they can't seem to understand how an atheist can have a fulfilling, hopeful and happy life without the fantasy of immortality.  That's the other crap I always get.  According to them an atheist's life is drab, hopeless, and ultimately pointless.  They see no value in living this life to the fullest, knowing it's the only one we'll ever get.  They'd rather waste time on their knees indulging in fantasies, wasting their money sending bibles to starving kids in Africa, and filling people's heads with woo about spirits, demons, and all the nasty ways God is going to get you if you touch yourself  or say his name in vain.  What a fucking waste!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and they can&#8217;t seem to understand how an atheist can have a fulfilling, hopeful and happy life without the fantasy of immortality.  That&#8217;s the other crap I always get.  According to them an atheist&#8217;s life is drab, hopeless, and ultimately pointless.  They see no value in living this life to the fullest, knowing it&#8217;s the only one we&#8217;ll ever get.  They&#8217;d rather waste time on their knees indulging in fantasies, wasting their money sending bibles to starving kids in Africa, and filling people&#8217;s heads with woo about spirits, demons, and all the nasty ways God is going to get you if you touch yourself  or say his name in vain.  What a fucking waste!
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		<title>by: Sue Blue</title>
		<link>http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/archives/440/it-sure-sucks-to-be-a-creationist-right-now#comment-19275</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 20:40:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/archives/440/it-sure-sucks-to-be-a-creationist-right-now#comment-19275</guid>
					<description>Yeah, debating with my fundie relatives is just as frustrating and fruitless as arguing with the fundie trolls that pop up here.  The only difference is the emotional investment.  I keep hoping that I can have at least one encounter with my xtian flesh and blood that doesn't devolve into an ordeal.  But no, it is not to be.  No matter how I try to avoid the subject, they always, ALWAYS, get around to bringing up what they suppose to be my future status in the hereafter.  If I back them into a logistical corner, then I get the guilt trip.  Weeping and wailing, they will mourn my future absence in heaven, ask me how I can stand the thought of an eternity without my loved ones, and moan about how they are wearing off their kneecaps praying for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, debating with my fundie relatives is just as frustrating and fruitless as arguing with the fundie trolls that pop up here.  The only difference is the emotional investment.  I keep hoping that I can have at least one encounter with my xtian flesh and blood that doesn&#8217;t devolve into an ordeal.  But no, it is not to be.  No matter how I try to avoid the subject, they always, ALWAYS, get around to bringing up what they suppose to be my future status in the hereafter.  If I back them into a logistical corner, then I get the guilt trip.  Weeping and wailing, they will mourn my future absence in heaven, ask me how I can stand the thought of an eternity without my loved ones, and moan about how they are wearing off their kneecaps praying for me.
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		<title>by: LadyRavana</title>
		<link>http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/archives/440/it-sure-sucks-to-be-a-creationist-right-now#comment-19270</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 20:09:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Ron:

I admire your valiant efforts to debunk the fundies, and I sometimes even enjoy the creation vs. evolution tennis game that sometimes transpires here. Sadly, my knowledge of evolution isn't as extensive as yours (or PL's), so I can't debunk them myself. But it is fun to watch them get shot down. And when they're shot down, they resort to outright attacks. Sometimes it's amusing, but I largely skim over their posts in the comments section.

However, I do like to think that maybe you've helped a Fundie reconsider their stance that "evolution is a lie." But then, maybe that's just wishful thinking, and fundies, no matter what, are always going to remain willfully ignorant, no matter what.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ron:</p>
<p>I admire your valiant efforts to debunk the fundies, and I sometimes even enjoy the creation vs. evolution tennis game that sometimes transpires here. Sadly, my knowledge of evolution isn&#8217;t as extensive as yours (or PL&#8217;s), so I can&#8217;t debunk them myself. But it is fun to watch them get shot down. And when they&#8217;re shot down, they resort to outright attacks. Sometimes it&#8217;s amusing, but I largely skim over their posts in the comments section.</p>
<p>However, I do like to think that maybe you&#8217;ve helped a Fundie reconsider their stance that &#8220;evolution is a lie.&#8221; But then, maybe that&#8217;s just wishful thinking, and fundies, no matter what, are always going to remain willfully ignorant, no matter what.
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		<title>by: Parrotlover77</title>
		<link>http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/archives/440/it-sure-sucks-to-be-a-creationist-right-now#comment-19249</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 13:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;That’s why I tend to shut down threads after they’ve gone on too long. Once the conversation starts repeating itself or the fundies refuse to address the issues, that means the conversation has foundered and needs to end. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

That's a good (and fair) policy.  However, it is important to respond to the attacks for a little while (at least once) so that lurkers and those that come in late don't get the impression that us "evos" don't actually, you know, have facts.  Even if it is tiresome to do so... :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>That’s why I tend to shut down threads after they’ve gone on too long. Once the conversation starts repeating itself or the fundies refuse to address the issues, that means the conversation has foundered and needs to end. </p></blockquote>
<p>That&#8217;s a good (and fair) policy.  However, it is important to respond to the attacks for a little while (at least once) so that lurkers and those that come in late don&#8217;t get the impression that us &#8220;evos&#8221; don&#8217;t actually, you know, have facts.  Even if it is tiresome to do so&#8230; <img src='http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />
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