Barack Obama is the Anti-Christ!
Somehow I came across the Oklahoma Forum on Topix. Right near the top is the subject “IS BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA THE ANTI CHRIST?” I suppose we shouldn’t be surprised that the question is broached. This is the internet, after all. What is surprising is that this topic has over 2800 posts! Apparently this debate has been raging on this forum since July of last year. Obviously a lot of people are having fun, and we’re missing out! Quick! Let’s jump in and see what we find! Let’s start with a few posts from the beginning of the thread:
Somebody named Yahaim writes:
Obama is the Anti-Christ. This is the evidence:
1.- He will come as a man of Peace (Obama promises peace in Iraq, defeat for the US)
2.- He will come mounted on a white Female horse (Obama mother is white who had 6 African husbands)
3.- He will come to deceive (Obama says he’s a Christian but in fact he was born a Muslim, practices the Islamic religion, prays Friday’s facing Mecca)
4.- He will make himself the most powerful man on earth, if elected
5.- He will try to destroy the Jewish People and Israel (Obama has said he loves the Arabs specially the Palestinians, hates Israel and Jews. Admires Hitler, Osama etc)
6.- He will present himself as good and righteous but in fact he’s Satan himself. Violence is in his heart
7.- Obama will help Al Qaida in its evil projects.
8.- Barack Hussein Obama is the “King of the South” predicted in the Bible.(Daniel .11, Kenya is south of Jerusalem)
9.- Obama comes to implant muslim Sharia Law upon America.
Obama is the Anti-Christ, beware of him.
Watch him and don’t let you be deceived by Him.
Supporters of Obama: 1.5 billion Muslims, Oprah, Louis Farrakanh, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton and all American Muslims.
OBAMA’S GAME IS DECEPTION AND VIOLENCE
A VOTE FOR OBAMA IS A VOTE FOR OSAMA AND KILLER ISLAM!!
I don’t know how I missed all that. Thank you, Yahaim!
Brian of Mulberry, IN writes:
It is my personal belief that Obama is antichrist, my neighbor (long time christian) also believes that.
PROOF?
He talks real nice so will the antichrist
(sly devil)He’s muslim – I heard that some muslims are calling for there version of “messiah” and that there God is called Allah and that the antichrist’s name Abbandan or something like that is the one and the same
I know that most muslims are good people just like most christians are
But there are a few radicals, and that is what I am talking about (woof in sheep’s clothing).
No, Brian. “Woof” is the sound it makes, not what it’s called.
Bud H of La Mirada, CA writes:
Did you hear that the Florida governor’s mansion burned down? ‘Yep. Prit’near took out the whole trailer park. The library was a total loss, too. Both books went poof, up in flames, and the govnor hadn’t even finished colorin’ one of em.’
OK, that’s a little off topic, but it’s probably accurate, considering all of the lunatic creationism legislation that Florida has been passing lately.
Jonesy of Nixa, MO writes:
I don’t know if he is the anti christ or not but why would we put our country in a situation where we have a president with muslim and atheist parents, who won’t put his hand on the bible but the koran (but attends and is a member of the Church of Christ), and has a muslim backgroud, that just spells out disaster…
What do you mean you don’t know if he’s the Anti-Christ? You said it yourself. His parents are Muslim and atheist. He must be the Anti-Christ!
Zach of Astoria, NY writes:
YOU F*#@NG FREAKS. I’M ASHAMED THAT I COME FROM THE SAME COUNTRY AS YOU. I’M ASHAMED THAT I BELONG TO THE SAME SPECIES AS YOU.
I know, Zach. Depressing, isn’t it?
Somebody named September 11th writes:
How quickly you forget that America was attacked by muslims on September 11th, and now you want to vote for one for president?
No, I want to vote for Obama.
In a later post, Mr. September 11th writes:
Obama refused to use a Bible when he was sworn into office, he demanded to swear in on a koran instead.
A Christian would NOT do that.
Obama is playing the “Christian Political Card” that fools those with strong delusion such as yourself.
It’s amazing that 9/11 is so convinced that he can spot people with strong delusions.
For those of you who have lost track of the score, it wasn’t Obama who refused to be sworn in on the Bible and instead insisted on using a Koran. That was Keith Ellison.
JoMama writes:
Then WTF did Obama refuse to swear into office on a Bible?
Obama insisted he be sworn in on a koran.
You need to stop smokin that cheep $hit and buy some good stuff, apparently your brain is rotting away into nothingness.
Well somebody’s brain is rotting away into nothingness.
Let’s jump to near the end of this forum and try to find something more current.
FencerGirl of Madison Heights, VA writes:
OMG, I can’t believe you guys are serious and SO shockingly stupid!
What folks need to fear is idiots like YOU religious fools! Have you no shame to post such nonsense?
You haven’t been around fundies much, have you FencerGirl?
Josh of Busy, KY writes:
whether Obama is the anit-christ or not, why would you elect someone that is a muslim as President. They have evidence that shows him wearing traditional muslim clothes, he went to a church for several years where the pastor was saying white people were anti-christ, he will not wear American flags. Plus his middle name is Hussane (spelling). Why on earth would you elect this man into office??? This country was founded on christianity, and we have got so far away from that that a MUSLIM is running for presidetn. It blows my mind.
What blows my mind is that despite years of watching the radical right, I can still have my mind blown. I don’t know what percentage of the population the people here represent. I fear it may be larger than we imagine.
June 10th, 2008 at 6:04 am
Fear not, Ron. The internets just makes it appear much larger.
Sure I think there are a lot of people who won’t vote for Obama because they think he’s Muslim, but I’m still holding out hope that it’s not a margin that makes him unelectable.
Pretty amazing how much ignorance is out there. My favorite: Obama promises peace in Iraq, defeat for the US.
HUH? Peace in Iraq = Defeat for US? So the fundies really do want perpetual war. I thought the endgame for this war was, in fact, peace (and american wal-mart style democracy) in the middle east?
Isn’t McCain (et al) peddling the fear that withdrawing the US from Iraq means war/terrrrrrrrrrism for the US? That’s not peace…
June 10th, 2008 at 6:25 am
I tend to cling to the hope that Parrotlover gives in that first sentence, but sometimes I wonder. Ideas are like viruses: just one well-positioned carrier can spread it to many, and most don’t even realize they’ve been infected until it’s too late. I can only hope that we’ve come up with some decent vaccines over at the Laboratories of Reason.
June 10th, 2008 at 6:28 am
Stupid reaching critical mass: Abandon ship!
Educated Americans should come up to Canada. You can stay at my house until you get a job.
June 10th, 2008 at 7:07 am
wow. the ‘top ten list’ is crazy. It offers absolutely no corroboration (not that there can be any). “will help AlQuaeda” supporters include “ALL American Muslims”. Huh? How could the poster know this?
Of course, the true question is: why am I surprised by the insular stupidity of some people. The validity of their opinions can be expressed in their atrocious spelling and grammar. I mean, come one!
June 10th, 2008 at 8:48 am
BTW, it was the TEXAS governor’s mansion that burned down. Arson. Granted, Florida scores only slightly lower than Texas in funditude.
With that in mind, I wonder if there are any religious groups in Texas that have an axe to grind with the governor?
Just sayin’.
June 10th, 2008 at 9:17 am
I’m beginning to believe, with all seriousness, that American citizens must first be issued a permit or a license in order to vote. Well, why not? We have licenses for a wide array of activities, ranging from driving a vehicle, owning a gun, or catching a fish to practicing law, owning a dog, or broadcasting on radio or TV. In all cases, the licensee is expected to act responsibly and not cause undue harm to others.
In 2000 and 2004 enough uninformed, intolerant, bigoted and hateful voters came together to give us a George W. Bush presidency. (and, yes, I do think he stole it in 2000, but the point is enough people voted for him to make such theivery possible) We will be picking up the pieces of this disaster for years, possibly generations. Can there be any better evidence that irresponsible voting is a threat to a healthy democracy?
I’m not suggesting that we place extraordinary burdens on a potential voter. I think a short and simple quiz would suffice. The questions would not be terribly difficult, but would cover a wide range of relevant topics, such as candidate information, geography, the Constitution, and current events. Demonstrate a simple competency on the quiz and you get to vote. If not, sorry. You are not a well-enough informed person and therefore you are not eligible to have a say in our country’s future.
There might be two possible benefits to mandatory voter education. On one hand, most votes would be informed votes, and that’s always a good thing, regardless of who one votes for. On the other hand, people who consistently have a hard time dealing with reality, like say – oh I don’t know, christian fundies, for example – would probably fail even the simplest quiz and we would then be spared the burden of their ridiculous ideas holding sway in matters of public policy.
As far as all this bunk about Obama is concerned, is anyone really surprised? Come on, this is the religious right we’re talking about here. You know, the last great bastion of racism and xenophobia in our country. There is no comment too stupid, too asinine, too utterly fucking insane that I would be surprised to hear coming from a religious fundamentalist. These are people to whom a black man in the White House who isn’t the butler is unthinkable.
At this point, I think Obama’s chances of winning in November are excellent, the right-wing idiocracy of America notwithstanding. I see him doing things that, when taken in conjunction with the state of our country and the pathetic campaign McCain is running, point to a political juggernaut that might just be unstoppable. If charges of Obama being the anti-christ are the best they can come up with, I’m not terribly worried this time around.
Still, it’d be nice to know that all votes are cast by educated voters and not by racist, homophobic, mysoginistic zealots who think the world is going to end at any second. I know, I know. That’s far too much to ask of 21st century America.
June 10th, 2008 at 9:34 am
Jason Failes – Don’t write checks you can’t cash. lol. You might have a lot of takers one day…
June 10th, 2008 at 9:40 am
Brian – Just wanted to point out that, personally, I think that the problem is not “too many stoopids” voting but really “not enough smartsies.” Apathy is more what I see as the problem than, say, the ignorant voting for somebody based on false assumptions.
Point well taken, but I guess I still have my american flag rose colored glasses still on… I want even the dumbest doorknob to get a chance to vote…
June 10th, 2008 at 10:34 am
This is my favorite…
“PROOF?
He talks real nice so will the antichrist
(sly devil)”
He uses the big words so he must be evil, cause I can’t understand ‘em.
Feel free to change your drool cup now, fundie.
June 10th, 2008 at 11:00 am
Parrot,
I want to say I agree with you about voter apathy, although I do not think it will be as pronounced this year as it has in the past. Both Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama registered millions of new voters and shattered records for voter turnout for a primary process that is usually a case-study in voter apathy. Now that Obama is the nominee, I see his charisma and his message, along with most Americans’ intense dislike for Bush and his Republican lackeys, driving voter turnout to levels not seen in our lifetime.
In fact, if apathy is going to be a problem for anyone it will be for McCain. Evangelicals have simply not warmed up to him, and a substantial number are now even leaning toward Obama. If he can’t motivate the Dobson-Hagee-Parsley lunatic fringe, he’s toast.
To your last point, I see where you are coming from, and its a hard argument to rebut. We can’t realistically craft a policy of exclusionary democracy and still be able to call it a democracy, but in reality we all know what can happen if people aren’t paying attention. Just how close have we come to a theocracy in America? I can’t say for sure, but I’m willing to bet its a hell of a lot closer than any of us would like.
That said, though, you’re right about everyone having a chance to vote. I’m just beginning to think that such a right ought to be contingent on a certain level of competence. Is that too much to ask? I don’t know. Is it a slippery slope to somewhere we don’t want to go? Again, I don’t know. Perhaps, either way, that’s a price we all have to pay in order to have a democracy, or at least, a close approximation of it.
June 10th, 2008 at 1:50 pm
To be honest, I’m somehwat relieved by these posts- it shows that while the religious right is stupid enough to believe that he’s a) a Muslim and b) the antichrist, and they’re discriminating against that (mistaken beliefs), it means they’re no discriminating against his skin colour. So if the worst that the religous right thinks of him is wrong information than that’s quite good considering.
June 10th, 2008 at 2:45 pm
Brian – I agree that apathy will be less pronounced this year. I’m very much looking forward to seeing what the final count will be. I’m expecting it to break records and absolutely dwarf 2004.
I do, indeed, worry about the slippery slope. I’d rather have everybody in the entire country involved than a competency test + apathy. I think the end result is the same. I think the crazies (like quoted above) are a very small part of the total population. The problem is that they seem to be much more pronounced in the VOTING population.
June 10th, 2008 at 2:47 pm
Murray – you make an amazing point. Has skin color racism diminished that much? Or is it possible they are making the rest of the garbage up and are instead actually “voting against” his skin color?
Good food for thought, thoguh.
June 10th, 2008 at 3:48 pm
I tend to think most folks are using all this BS as an excuse not to vote for a black man. It’s a sad, sad country we live in, but I still have a little hope.
June 10th, 2008 at 5:10 pm
Mike, I think for a lot of people, that’s exactly what it’s about. Just an excuse to hide their racism.
I get those stupid emails misquoting Obama, taking things out of context, and making outright lies. Some, sadly, from my own father. I make an effort to respond with rational, irrefutable evidence to the contrary on all of these emails (and I sometimes throw back some truth bombs about McCain while I’m at it). And I send it to everyone who had been CC’d.
It’s a small effort. Really, the most I can hope for is they’ll stop sending me that bullshit. I guess they think I’ll believe it like they do and be offended. However, the difference is I think for myself and don’t let a bible and my insecurities do the thinking for me.
June 10th, 2008 at 5:49 pm
Mike,
I recently received an e-mail from a relative on my wife’s side which contained an opinion piece written by J. Kenneth Blackwell, who ran for governor of Ohio in 2006 and got spanked by Ted Strickland. Blackwell is a rare creature in that he’s a Republican, and he’s black. He’s also an arch-conservative in an Alan Keyes kind of kookiness. The point of his op-ed was to trash Barack Obama, and the point of the e-mail was to say, “Look! Here’s a BLACK person who doesn’t like Obama!”. Well, I did what any self-respecting enemy of credulity would do – I “corrected” it and sent it back from whence it came, and, of course, to every other person to who this was forwarded.
The arguments were feeble, at best, but Blackwell saved his biggest shot for last: yeah, he made the Obama = Antichrist charge. That, combined with the subject of this thread makes me wonder just how desperate fundies are this year. They are absolutely terrified of Barack Obama, which only improves my already favorable opinion of him. I can only hope that when Obama is president these people who love George W. Bush so goddamned much experience just a fraction of the angst we’ve endured the last 7 1/2 years.
June 10th, 2008 at 7:11 pm
Actually people this dumb are less likely to vote. Don’t confuse ranting with someone who is actually politically active. Very funny though, my favorite “woof in sheep’s clothing”!
June 10th, 2008 at 8:29 pm
I can’t believe how many fundies there are out there in the U.S. and how blithely ignorant they can be. I thought watching “Jesus Camp” was scary enough, but actually READING what these people say and their reasoning (more likely than not a lack thereof) for it gives me heart attacks. Why oh why are they allowed to reap the benefits of science when they so actively not only eschew but desperately try to IMPEDE it??!!
June 10th, 2008 at 9:26 pm
Jeeezus! Every time I think this country’s scraped the very bottom of the barrel of stupidity, the bottom drops out. One wonders if these fine, flag-wavin’ Amerkan folks have nothing left but bloody stumps from a lifetime of knuckle-dragging.
June 10th, 2008 at 10:32 pm
@Jason: watch out what’s happening on your side of the fence my friend. You have more than your share of fundies up North too, and with your current conservative government they’re starting to act up. Sure, they have a lot of work to do before they make things as miserable as here in the U.S., but believe me, they’re trying. Believe me, stupidity knows no borders. But thanks for the invite, anyway… The whole BoF readership should get together at your house for a party!
June 10th, 2008 at 10:35 pm
Check out my favorite song 20 years ago… Still just as relevant today, sadly. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWaQmQyTF24
June 11th, 2008 at 6:21 am
I live in Ohio. We are just so proud of Blackwell…ok…maybe not.
I like to send Snopes links to people when they send me their ignorant anti-Obama emails.
The really sad thing is that they could be forwarding intelligent objections to Obama’s positions, but they probably don’t even know what he really stands for.
June 11th, 2008 at 8:22 am
What Christians forget so quickly is that the Anti-Christ will be appealing even to them! They will not know who he is until it is too late. To know who he is would be to know the year of Christ’s return, something Christ himself proclaimed that no man will know.
June 11th, 2008 at 9:26 am
Uh,did anybody happen to notice that in order to fulfill this,Obama is completely in the wrong COUNTRY???? how desperate do the repubs have to be to try and pull this stunt??? I’ve read other just as lame excuses as well.
People have been talking about the end times for a long time,(usually every time something bad happens,and it’s ‘God’s wrath’,according to the zealots)and by golly…we’re still here.
June 11th, 2008 at 9:31 am
McCain is scary..downright scary..he’s Bush with a bad temper..beware!
June 11th, 2008 at 9:33 am
BTW,Obama isn’t of the right race/heritage,either,in order to be the Anti-C.
June 11th, 2008 at 11:03 am
S – People have been predicting the end of the world for every day of every year basically… ever. It gets more attention around bad events, but it never stops.
June 11th, 2008 at 2:21 pm
Damn Fundies, as a child born of Jewish mother, I am furious that those assholes would deny me one of their own predictions (not to mention one of my childhood future job choices, my second one was astronaut). Sure the Evangelical right is pro-Israel, but I doubt many of the secular Israeli’s want their help (which is what i try to explain to my friends in U.S.). On a different note, while they may not want Obama as a president because he is a Muslim-anti-Christ (who can argue with all that proof) do they really want McCain who has to be a at least a zombie (look at the proof, he looks old and decrepit, and I heard he eats liberal children at night)
June 12th, 2008 at 11:25 am
I’m not sure what scares me more when it comes to this race and Obama: the bitching about “elitism” or all the utter lies and bullshit that so many people latch onto as truth. On the one hand, a major portion of the population is basically declaring that “I don’t want no smarty pants edumacated kinda guy,” (you know, the kind who would know enough to run a country), “I want Joe Blow who looks and talks like me and knows stuff that I know! Like Nascar!” On the other hand, we have a population stupid enough to believe, if not that he’s the anti-christ because of all this bullshit, at the very least that despite pretty clear evidence to the contrary (including his Christian church that has been in the news almost non-stop because of his pastor), they still believe this crap! When the hell did a damned pin become more important than employment and healthcare!?
@Brian: You know at this point I could almost agree with you about that test. I have two fears about that though, who’s writing the test and who’s grading it? Anyone who actually knows the proper answers would probably be shouted down as either an “elitist,” or an immoral atheist. (Because as we all know, being an atheist must mean you are immoral.)
June 12th, 2008 at 11:40 am
I love it
McCain comes as a man of peace!
McCain’s mother was white!
McCain says anything! “I can’t find you a billion dollars tomorrow!”
Sigh….again, it’s McCain
June 13th, 2008 at 2:28 am
Oh God…Oh God, Oh God.
*groans and drops face into hands in humiliation*
Wanna know what’s scary. I LIVE in Oklahoma!
Yes…it’s Fundie country. We are the “buckle” of the Bible Belt.
Just want you to know, that not all of us are religious crazies! I’m a registered Democrat! And a Pagan! And a free thinking liberal! And I believe in evolution! I voted for Obama! (and will vote in November!)
…In all seriousness, my faith in humanity just dropped another thirty points.
I agree with the poster that it’s not fair that these morons reap the benefits of science!
June 15th, 2008 at 11:45 pm
Lady: XD Tell me about it…I wish we could simply deny them all of science’s advancements since they seem to think the scientific method ‘doesn’t work’
I wonder when they will realize that it’s their faith that doesn’t work (Least not for science nor the federal government)? o.0 If that will ever happen…
June 16th, 2008 at 8:02 pm
For anyone interested in a New Testament scholar’s comments on the antichrist (and why I am persuaded it isn’t Barack Obama), please take a look at my most recent blog entry.
June 17th, 2008 at 7:51 am
James:
I just read your article. It’s worth reading. Too bad the people who really need to read it never will.
June 20th, 2008 at 10:29 am
If you have access to any conservative Christian forums where these claims are being bandied about, you might want to confront them with the Barack Obama Blasphemy Challenge:
http://exploringourmatrix.blogspot.com/2008/06/take-barack-obama-blasphemy-challenge.html
June 21st, 2008 at 7:53 pm
You guys call Obama the Anti-Christ. I have visited Christian websites that post such bulls— about Obama. It’s as follows. They say that he’s a Godd— Muslim that attended a Muslim School in Jakarta. They also say that he doesn’t pledge to the flag and act irreverantly towards the American flag. Some people call him a supporter of terrorism. LIES! He’s not a Muslim. He had a white mother and he’s half white and half-black for your freaking information. It’s completly retarded to make such rumors as these crazy Bible-Thumping Christians do. I’m not being mean or stepping over the line. I’m telling the truth.
Many Conservative Christians are hypocrites when they portray themselves to be better than other people when in their hearts they have flith in their hearts. There are those who claim to be Christians look at pornography. There are some that abuse children and commit hate crimes.
There are people that said that Obama smoked for 10 years or how many years it was. I forgot. But I was paying attention. I just forgot how long the media said he smoked. That’s HIS BUSINESS! I get so pissed off when people bring up this smoking crap that I could just scream.
All I have to say is that I’m getting pissed off about these rumos about Obama discussed in the previous paragraphs that I started to feel that no politician should ever be trusted. I don’t care who it is!
June 21st, 2008 at 9:04 pm
yea,he’s delusional…truly delusional.Iraq, of course, had nothing to do w. terrorism.I’m surprised some ppl are still too dumb to see it for what it really is.I guess we have to spell it out for them? ok… O-I-L.
June 21st, 2008 at 9:07 pm
yea,it gets old too.If the end is coming then can we just get it over with already?!
Seriously,it’s funny when these backwards preachers start in with the ‘End Times’ coming over every little thing.I just think…yea…keep going…! LOL.
June 23rd, 2008 at 7:31 am
It’s truly amazing the back-flips the McCaininites and Bushites do for the oil companies. Did you know that if we allow drilling off our coast today, that tomorrow the $4/gal gasoline will be fixed?! WHO KNEW?!
June 23rd, 2008 at 8:20 am
You call Obama’s role deception and violence? You also say he’s the kig of the South as predicted in the BIBLE????? What are you? A fool, or something?! Don’t you see that you are twisting the scriptures for our own benefit like many other Christians do? They, especially you, don’t know how to rightly quote scripture, Yahaim. Why do you people make foolish claims about people and use the Bible as a defense for your blatant stupidity? I think is because you and the people that call Obama the anti-Christ are scared of him being the President of the United States. What’s wrong with that? Can’t blacks be President too?
It has a lot to say about you so-called Christians. You hide behind the bilbe every time to take the heat off yourselves from committing the same sin such as invading Iraq and Vietnam.
June 23rd, 2008 at 9:31 am
It’s not just that,James.(good post btw).There are other examples in history as well..like Pearl Harbor..I think most ppl realize it could have been prevented,but guess what? That first strike was needed to get support from Americans.And it worked..suddenly ppl were lining up for service!
June 23rd, 2008 at 9:33 am
no more than women can be.that’s a shame,too.Hillary and Bill really have the power to turn things around for the US.
June 23rd, 2008 at 11:05 am
Compared to McCain, a dildo has a better shot at turning things around for the US.
June 23rd, 2008 at 1:10 pm
We’ve had a dildo in office for two terms now, and he did turn things around. But not in a good way.
June 23rd, 2008 at 1:11 pm
Wanna know what’s scary. I LIVE in Oklahoma!
Yes…it’s Fundie country. We are the “buckle” of the Bible Belt.
I think this makes Texas the crotch. See above dildo remark.
June 30th, 2008 at 10:54 pm
Liberalism is the problem with america.
June 30th, 2008 at 11:21 pm
Green bunnies have fleas.
June 30th, 2008 at 11:23 pm
Somehow I thought that game would be more fun. I guess leaving non sequiturs on blogs is only entertaining for the retarded.
June 30th, 2008 at 11:38 pm
Liberalism is the problem with America, huh?
Hmmmm…okay, what alternate Universe are YOU living in Hayden? Because I think the sins of the conservatives FAR outweigh the sins of us “bad ebil liberals.”
Eh. I pretty much put anyone that says liberals are the problem in the category of “too stupid to live.”
Damn it. Natural selection is there for a reason. Why can’t it root out the weak and stupid like it does in the wild with animals?
I wonder if Hayden will come back and “enlighten” us liberals on how we’re ruining America? My guess he was just one of those hit-and-run trolls, alas.
July 1st, 2008 at 6:24 am
LR – Natural selection can take thousands of years for radical results. Plus, it doesn’t garauntee the smartest or cleverist will survive — only those which prove more “clever” to BREED. Being CF myself, I’ve already yanked my genes out of the genepool, so maybe being non-superstitous is not the best trait for propogation? Fundies tend to breed like rabbits, so… CRAP! The world is doomed!
July 1st, 2008 at 12:05 pm
Hayden,
Liberals? Really? Not that burned-out alkie who’s been squatting in the White House for the last seven years? Or his crooked cronies who have been using the Constitution for toilet paper while they make up their own rules? Or the trillion-dollar debacle in Iraq? Or the megalomaniac, bible-banging wackaloons that have been rotting our state and federal governments from the inside out with their medieval, hate-filled rhetoric?
Huh. Liberals – who’d a thunk it? Why don’t you tell me aaaalll about it? I’m breathless with anticipation.
July 1st, 2008 at 5:23 pm
yes,me too,well said Sue.A Prez who can have a following and do what he wants ‘in the name of God’, and yet still wreck havoc in Iraq,killing innocent ppl as well as our own troops,has a following of airheaded idiots who can’t (or won’t) even think for themselves.
Laura Bush is on the top 100 list of airheads.I think I’d have to whack my hubby on the head with an iron skillet,lest he try to pull off that load of nonsense! Instead,Laura is just all smiles!! Wow,wtg Ms Mashed Potatoes for Brains!!
July 2nd, 2008 at 7:12 am
S – Don’t insult mashed potatoes like that. I like mashed potatoes. I don’t like Laura Bush.
July 2nd, 2008 at 6:56 pm
I know it’s been said before, but I can’t see Laura Bush without thinking “Stepford Wife”. Whenever she appears in public I keep waiting for her to short-circuit and start repeating herself while she continues to smile that creepy, glassy-eyed smile.
July 6th, 2008 at 6:53 pm
even if he was the antichrist why would it matter because politics should not be based at all on religion and it shouldn’t make a difference in what he believes anyway. That doesn’t tell u how he is going to lead the nation. Just because someone is and evangelical doesn’t mean they will be any better than an antichrist because that shouldnt’ have any say in anything.
July 17th, 2008 at 3:39 am
sorry,taters! (I humbly apologize.all potatoes deserve better).
August 4th, 2008 at 6:29 am
I live in a small village in ohio and i personally think that barack obama is the antichrist because he talks nice to people and he gathers and what that means he spearing out his emotions and he is making his marking on geting control of every source and person to know. my advice is not vote for barack obama because it wil make a bad fall and might conduct a lot of loss in lives and perhaps the world.
August 4th, 2008 at 7:31 am
Cody:
If you’re worried about loss of life, then don’t vote for John McCain. He will continue the failed policies of George Bush, which have already resulted in thousands of Americans dead and countless Iraqis.
August 4th, 2008 at 12:27 pm
Cody,
We’ve survived your hero, George W. Bush. Barely, perhaps, but we’ve made it. Even at Obama’s worst he still outclasses Bush and McCain by light years. So, Cody, it is with all sincerity that I tell you that I hope eight years of a President Obama (I like the sound of that) give you just a small fraction of the grief, anger, frustration, disappointment and fear that sensible people have experienced since January 2001.
I do take great solace from the knowledge that evangelicals are feeling left out in the cold this year. Oh, sure, they’ll no doubt hitch their wagon to the McCain double-talk express eventually, but like a child forced to eat his brussel sprouts, they’ll do it grudgingly.
Perhaps I am too much of an optimist this year, but I really do not see John McCain winning this thing. Obama’s doing almost everything right, and McCain can’t get his ass in gear. If the best they can do is yell “anti-christ”, they’re really fucked. The country is ready (or at least enough of it is) for an end to Bush and anything resembling him, which includes John McCain. Get used to it, Cody.
August 4th, 2008 at 2:39 pm
Brian / Ron – You are arguing the wrong way here. The “Obama is the debil” people fault Obama for his intelligence, fitness, his ability to get things done, and just overall being competent. How can you argue against that by saying “but he’ll be better than Bush!” That’s exactly brain-douched Cody’s concern! BECAUSE Obama looks so qualified and well-liked, that means he IS the anti-christmas!
The only effective (and I use that term loosely) way to argue that is to make the other guy look MORE like the anti-criminey. Of course the best you will get is a “well, I dunno, maybe” as a good conservative rarely strays from their uber-intelligent initial gut reaction and never, under any circumstances, admits fault.
This, my friends, is a clear example of how superstition can over-rule better judgement.
August 4th, 2008 at 5:34 pm
Al Gore endorses Obama…do the anti-Obama’s think Gore is rooting for Satan as well???
Gore has a good head on his shoulders,and I trust his opinion.
August 4th, 2008 at 7:28 pm
Parrot’s got something there. If there’s one thing Bush accomplished, it was the empowerment of stupid people. Hey, if a moron can make it to the top Office in the country, it must be GOOD to be ignorant! It seems these people have made it a point of pride to proclaim their complete cluelessness at every opportunity. The logical extension of this is their suspicion of the educated and intelligent, which is also tied to their religious belief. Their bible tells them that every product of the human mind is inherently evil, and we’re not supposed to trust in humans. So, Obama’s intelligence is not a point in his favor with these guys. They’d much rather have four more years of stupid. Their motto might as well be “In Stupid We Trust”.
August 4th, 2008 at 8:24 pm
SB – you hit the nail right on the head with that one! Thinking is, apparently for conservatives, very hard. AiG and WingNutNow prove this every day. If this isn’t an argument for improving education standards (for private religious schools and home schools too) and getting superstition out of the classroom, I don’t know what else could be.
August 11th, 2008 at 12:07 am
The Antichrist Obama and his Pro-Abortion Communist Gestapo will CHANGE USA into USSA – United Socialist States of America.
August 11th, 2008 at 8:35 am
The above comment was caught by my spam filter. It doesn’t appear to be from a ‘bot. I think this guy is roaming the web posting similar comments on all Obama sites. It doesn’t add to the conversation, and it doesn’t offer any support for his claim. I decided to approve it anyway (minus his link), because I want you to see the CD he’s selling:
August 11th, 2008 at 9:12 am
That’s becoming quite the anti-Obama meme. I just don’t see how come anybody to the left of Cheney is automatically a Marxist to some right wingers. Their right/left political spectrum detector needs some calibration.
August 11th, 2008 at 9:39 am
This ties in quite nicely with the discussion on intellect/idiocy. Even the least educated of the fundie right has heard of the big three ( the unholy trinity) ..Marx, Hitler and Darwin. By continuing to simply throw one of those names out whenever a comparison is needed to “something really scary and bad”, it allows the uneducated to feel like they “get it” when it’s more than obvious that they don’t!
August 24th, 2008 at 2:31 pm
That first one was in an Oklahoma forum? Of coarse……I dont think I have ever been so ashamed be an Oklahoman as I am now! Everyday I gotta argue with someone because I am apperantly “an enemy of god” for supporting Obama with a sticker on my notebook……Its sickening that these people are so pathetic that they cant be against Obama for his policies, or his Political Views, No thats to logical and civil so they resort to calling him the ant-christ, a muslim, a terroist and comparing him to Hitler….. I seem to rember people saying Hitler was the antichrist, then Reagan, Then both Clintons, Then George Bush Sr. and Jr., and Dick Cheney, and Al Gore, I’ve enen heard people say the Pope was the antichrist…..They cant make up there minds and they dont see the pattern that thetre always wrong…
August 24th, 2008 at 11:55 pm
right on,Geo…not to mention,if you want to take the bible literally,as the fundies do…then Obama is in the wrong damn country to even be considered the anti-C.!
August 25th, 2008 at 5:17 am
PL77, that is because they have no real idea what socialism or communism really is. They’ve never studied it or likely even looked up the terms in a dictionary…it’s just something fundie friend of theirs told them. And even to study it…well that is something only taught by one of those commie liberal college professors so they would trick you into thinking it was something different. These days, anyone who isn’t a blood red republican is a “socialist.”
August 25th, 2008 at 5:34 pm
Right. The only thing they know about “socialism” or “communism” is that it’s teh eBIL!
August 26th, 2008 at 12:27 pm
McCarthy would be so proud!
August 28th, 2008 at 9:01 am
Let’s see here. Barack Obama is a muslim, communist, and a socialist. As an added bonus, according to conservatives, he’s also the anti-christ. That’s quite a resume if one is vying for the title of most evil person to have ever lived. Seriously, I wouldn’t be surprised to hear someone like Sean Hannity claim that he also drinks the blood of newborn kittens while alternating between performing abortions and officiating gay marriages atop Jerry Falwell’s grave.
As an educated person, I know that the hysterical claims of the right are inversely proportional to their likelihood of being true. Unfortunately, in a country whose reasoning skills have been dulled by religion, nonsense like this thrives in the fertile minds of the credulous.
This also speaks to one of the most damning indictments against modern conservatism: in order to justify it own existence, conservatism requires enemies. Republican for years benefitted from the existence of the Soviet Union. Once it fell, Democrats became the focus of their animus, particularly the Clintons. 9/11 was, for conservatives, wonderfully serendipitous as it gave a floundering George W. Bush an enemy to justify the pursuit of long-standing conservative dreams about the middle east. Now, we see tensions rising again with Russia, and people like John McCain can’t wait to show the world how big his dick is. Who do you suppose would benefit from a renewed cold war? Military contractors and their republican patrons, of course. What a fucking shock.
August 29th, 2008 at 6:23 am
But despite all that, the youth of this nation is seeing through it all. In no small part, in my opinion, due to blogs offering up information and discussion that hasn’t been seen in newspapers, radio, or teevee in decades. The key to this election for liberal ideology (and any election, actually) is getting as many people as possible (especially the youth) out to the polls to vote! Apathy is the conservative ideology’s second best friend (next to The Other People Different From Us Who Will Bomb Your Kids Because They Hate You For Your Freedom).
August 29th, 2008 at 4:38 pm
PL,
Actually, despite the ire I expressed above, I am fairly optimistic about this election, and for several reasons.
First, I was impressed with Obama’s acceptance speech. It was both inspirational and forceful. He pretty much laid down the gauntlet for McCain to pick up, which is what I have been waiting for. Calling these bastards out for their insults to reason and their assaults on the Constitution is long overdue, and I think its a message the country is predisposed to hear.
Second, how much more pathetic can McCain’s campaign get? Sarah Palin? Sarah Freaking Palin?!? He honestly thinks disaffected Hillary Clinton supporters will fall for this ruse, which only proves Obama’s point that he just doesn’t get it. McCain revealed how desperate he must be feeling with this choice, and voices on the right are only now beginning to sense a Dan Quayle redux. I might also add that Palin is on record as saying creationism ought to be in public schools. In 21st century America, such a statement will probably help McCain, but this is the kind of douchebaggery we’ve come to expect from republicans.
Third, and getting back to the original point of this thread, if after having watched all of the media coverage of Obama the best these morons can come up with are charges Obama being the anti-christ, well, I know a frightening number of our neighbors will take it seriously, but c’mon. Are we really that stupid? (Don’t answer that)
Lastly, and to your point, the younger voters will come through for Obama. Interestingly, a lot of major polls are structured in such a way as to unintentionally overlook this group. Whenever a poll of “likely voters” is taken, it usually excludes those who have not voted recently or never at all. Also, some polls only target those with land-line house phones, and overlook those who only have a cell-phone. In both cases, younger, motivated voters constitute the vast majority of those whose opinions are not being factored.
I’m savoring the anticipation of Election Night and Obama’s victory. I really don’t think it will even be one of our closer elections. Maybe I’m wrong, but as shitty as things are, I’ve gotta have something to hope for.
August 30th, 2008 at 6:38 pm
McCain’s pick of Palin was a desperate move. Desperate times call for desperate measures. McCain saw Obama’s speech and he was scared. From what Mittens Romney’s campaign offices said, nobody even though she was in the picture.
I will tell you one thing. McCain made the best pick he could, given the circumstances. There are currently no strong female Republican legislators willing to take the veepship. Rice was really the best female pick (not that I think she’s worth anything, but given the pool of choices…). Palin was the only logical answer. Any other pick would have been a footnote on Friday in the chattering beltway circles. But what has Palin gotten McCain? Publicity.
Remember, for months now McCain has been short cashed. So what does he do? Release a VERY offensive ad to the internet, then CNN, Fox, and MSNBC faithfully air the ad on EVERY show and talk about it. Free advertising!
This is the same sort of stunt. McCain had to take wind out of Obama’s sails. The only selection that would do that would be Lieberman or a woman. The (sadly?) most qualified female Republican willing to take the job? Palin. So the selection was Lieberman or Palin. Now, the ZOMG a former Dem on the Repub ticket doesn’t have NEARLY the shelf life as the ZOMG a female on the Repub ticket.
What have the media been talking about now since the Palin announcement? The PUMAs! Of course, the ACTUAL amount of Hillary supporters supporting McCain since Polin has not changed. The DINOs that were feigning sympathy with Hillary as an excuse to vote for McCain would have done so with or without Palin. But Palin gives the media a story! No matter how much BS is it, it’s a story.
And there you go.
Personally, I think it’s a wise choice for McCain (compared to any of his other options). But I don’t think it will help. It does, indeed, show desperation.
Nothing would actually help him short of a major Obama or Biden gaffe. This is the McCain Hail Mary! It was the only logical choice for him.
On a side note: Palin changes Biden’s attack options during the veep debate. Biden is a known hot-head at times and attacking Palin too hard could be seen as “beating up on a woman.” It’s completely sexist, but since when has that stopped the media? Afterall, they are already asking Palin if she has time to care for her child with Down’s and running for veep at the same time. (Would they ask a man that? NO.)
I can’t wait to see the three dozen spectators hear McCain’s strained acceptance speech and contrast that with Obama’s 85,000 crowd. Good times.
October 2nd, 2008 at 9:06 am
Okay so if he (Obama) is the anitchrist then he will be elected, right? After all it’s meant to be, outlined in the bible, etc. All of you who truly believe this need to just do nothing – don’t vote at all, and let the prophesy take its course.
October 14th, 2008 at 11:40 pm
Mr Barack Hussein Obama may Allah’s peace be upon him is Jewish by his mother. The Christian book says anti-Massih (christ) must be a Jew. So definitely Mr Barack Hussein Obama may Allah’s peace be upon him is anti-Massih.
October 14th, 2008 at 11:59 pm
Ibrahim:
Do you have any comprehension of just how ignorant and hateful you sound?
October 15th, 2008 at 6:22 am
Ron! ZOMG! Did you know that Obama’s middle name is HUSSEIN?!?!! CLEARLY that makes him a terrist! CLEARLY!
October 15th, 2008 at 6:51 am
PL:
The evidence isn’t even that strong. Reread his comment. The real proof is that Obama’s Jewish!
(A Jewish Muslim. Don’t you love these people?)
October 15th, 2008 at 8:15 pm
Dear Mr Ron Britton. I am very sorry my humble opinion seemed such to you. I meant no harm. Just honest thinking was outspoken. Being a Muslim I do not hold to the prediction of anti-Massih’s coming, so I only speculate based on the facts available to my narrow understanding of the subject. May I say that it is *your* worldview which makes you see me and my faith as ignorant and hateful. I can’t help it. May I add to this more broadly that the reason American and other soldiers are murdering human beings including women and children by the hundreds of thousands in the Muslim world is precisely the same. May be you blessed by our one and only Holy Creator.
October 15th, 2008 at 10:52 pm
Ibrahim:
So somehow my calling your statement ignorant and hateful means that I think all Muslims are evil and I’m responsible for Bush’s illegal war against Iraq?
You made a ridiculous statement: That Obama is Jewish and therefore he is the Anti-Christ. That’s a very stupid statement. Joe Lieberman is Jewish. Why isn’t he the Anti-Christ? Groucho Marx was Jewish. Maybe he was the Anti-Christ. After all, he’s responsible for the downfall of Freedonia.
There are many people making ignorant, false accusations against Obama. Most of these charges are cover for racist or other hateful beliefs. You put yourself in bad company when you make similar statements.
October 16th, 2008 at 7:01 am
Ibrahim – You apparently haven’t read much on this blog. We dislike all religious fundamentalism and Ron primarily focuses on Christian fundamentalism, so the accusations of a hateful worldview, particularly toward Muslims, is just silly. Peaceful non-radical Muslims bother us no more than peaceful non-radical Christians.
I would also say that most readers of BoF are opposed to the invasion and occupation of the middle east. The senseless murders happening from all sides there is appalling.
All that being said, your first post made absolutely no sense, whatsoever! Your second post didn’t help to change that.
October 16th, 2008 at 7:12 am
Dear Mr Ron Britton. Again you show that you simply cannot be objective. That is your, Westerners’, worldwide renown trademark. My conversation is a waste of time. In my last attempt to try and make you think without any prejudice please allow me to say that what I said was not a false accusation. If I had said that the man we discuss was a bank robber that is an accusation. If I say that he must be a figure out of a Jewish religious book that is an outsider’s opinion. I do not consider my opinion much credible as I have very little understanding of the subject. So please do forgive me for sticking my large Middle Eastern nose in your bright American discussion. I did so purely because the question had intrigued me for awhile. I sincerely expected a neutral educated response on the meat of the matter. I only got a personal attack in reply. Oh thank you. Allah has taught me a bitter but very useful lesson. May Allah’s perfect peace be on your heart and your mind.
October 16th, 2008 at 7:36 am
So, it’s worse to be a bank robber than the anti-christ?
Wow.
Ibrahim, I’m not aware of any anti-Muslim sentiment on this blog or from posters who comment regularly, perhaps there is a language barrier that leads you to believe otherwise or you are reading something in the posts that frankly, is not there. I personally take offense at the suggestion since I’m the mother to a son born in a predominantly Muslim country to a Muslim family.
If you’re looking for agreement that Obama’s Jewish heritage fits with a religious fairytale about an anti-christ, this is probably not the best forum for an educated discussion about that.
October 16th, 2008 at 8:34 am
Dear Mrs Barbara. There is no language barrier. At least not in my case. Answering your initial question. Yes, it’s worse because that is a crime. Religion is a matter of believing, as you yourself put it, in a fairytale. For that matter, I do not care the least bit if the honorable Mr Barack Hussein Obama fits the qualifications of an anti-Massih or not. The discussion was not started by me or any Muslim. I only learned about it from the abundance of the material in the internet by American Christians themselves. I really don’t know why you came up with anti-Muslim sentiment. It had no place in our conversation. Maybe it’s in your mind? Hmmmm………
October 16th, 2008 at 9:19 am
Right there, Imrahim. An accusation that your religion is viewed as ignorant and hateful.
Again, I don’t view your religion as any different from any other religion other than it once was a part of my son’s life. If he choses to embrace that or any other religion, that’s his choice and I certainly would not stop him.
October 16th, 2008 at 12:05 pm
Dear Mrs Barbara. The quote from my post is true. You know it too well, I am sure. It should not be taken out of the context and be blown out of proportion. I came here and spent so much time of my life with no use, which I am afraid is already becoming Israf (the sin of wastefulness) on my part. I made a simple statement and now ended up going in circles of pointless arguing completely irrelevant to the subject of my sincere interest… Astaghfir Allah!
October 16th, 2008 at 12:33 pm
Oy.
I tried, I really really tried.
October 31st, 2008 at 10:10 pm
Race traitor white females will vote for this anti christ Obama. These same white females moved as as fast as they could from the Black crime cesspool of America’s Big Cities. But now, These same white females want to vote for this half breed muslim. Want to know what an Obama America will be like ? Go live in inner city Detroit,you dumb white females. Females should never have been allowed to vote. Obama will open the borders to Black Africans and flood America with these savages, who will rape these white dumbells.
October 31st, 2008 at 10:19 pm
Poe. Definitely Poe. You’ll have to try again, hardThickskull.
November 1st, 2008 at 12:03 pm
“HardThickandLong”……Riiiiiiggght! A tad Freudian, aren’t you? Could you be more transparent about your black male penis envy? Worried white gals might like it better than yours? I laughed my white female ass off at your retarded post – I hope you meant it as a joke. Oh, and by the way – that female vote you’re so worried about? Lots of intelligent, college-educated white AND black AND asian AND hispanic women who obviously have more between their ears than you’ll ever dream of. Maybe that’s what has your tighty-whities in a wad – guys like you only care about what’s between a woman’s legs. Well, fuck off. What we are hopefully seeing in this election is women finally saying they’ve had it with men who are nothing more than life support systems for dicks.
November 1st, 2008 at 3:01 pm
Jesus HardThickSkull, have you got a white pillowcase with eyeholes cut out and an oil-soaked cross in your front yard?
I’ve seen a lot of hate rhetoric from trolls on this site, but I’ve never seen such a blatant white supremacist. At least he’s upfront about his hatred and mysogyny. I’m not so sure he’s joking, Sue Blue. There are plenty of fucksticks out there that think like him, that’s what’s scary.
I’m thoroughly disgusted. I hope you banned his ass, Ron.
November 1st, 2008 at 3:47 pm
Oh, I agree with you, LR. I know there are way too many closet cross-burners out there who think that African Americans belong in the cotton fields and that the ideal woman is mute, three feet tall, with pistol-grip ears and a flat head they can rest their beer (and Bible) on while they watch NASCAR. You would think that such stupidity would eventually be eliminated by natural selection as their offspring get too retarded to breath on their own, but it hasn’t happened yet.
I’m thinking that post was a joke, though, because it has way too few misspelled words, exclamation marks and run-on sentences for the average fundie racist retard.
January 14th, 2009 at 2:02 pm
Barack Obama is not the anti-christ! But he is the one spoken of in Rev. 17:10 as the 7th king. Jimmy Carter is the anti-christ(Gabreil told me that) and will be the 8th king and is also one of the previous 7 kings as the bible says in Rev.17:10. Geoge W. is king #6 wish the bible refers to as “is” in the present tense. The 5 kings who are fallen are, Ford, Carter,Reagan, Geoge H.W. Bush, Bill Clinton. these 5 x-pres. or kings as the bible refers to them as, were all alive at the same time when Pres. Geoge W. Bush began his frist term in office. So when the bible says there are 7 kings that means that all 7 of them were all alive at that point in time and the anti-christ is 1 of these 7 kings and will become king or pres. again during a crisis.
The arch-angel Gabreil told me that Jimmy Carter had sigened a pack with the devil and that he was going to divorce his wife and change his name. The bible says in Dan. 11:20 that he(the anti-chist) is not in line to inherit the throne but through some small group and some lies and false promises he will become the king again during a crisis, Wish is where we are right now in a crisis, and everyone knows that its probably going to get worse, maybe much worse. Maybe even worse then the Great depression. And maybe some more wars also.
I have been saying for years that Pres. Geoge W. is king #6,even though i didn’t know who was going to come after him i knew that guy (king #7) would be the last pres. before the coming of the anti-christ. and it’s all on my web site http://www.prophetelijahspeaks.freewebspace.com
I think that Jimmy Carter will probably be assassinated before Pres. Obama dies. Also he will probably come back alive before Obama dies so he can become pres. again after Obama dies. Other wise the vise pres. Joe Biden would become pres. My wife and i are the 2 wittess in the book of revelations chapter 11. Other wise knowen as Bo & Peep!
January 14th, 2009 at 11:39 pm
Jim Stensland:
I really must apologize. I have a filter on this website that keeps almost all spam from ever making it onto the site. But clearly, I have been doing you a disservice. Here is just a sampling of the spam:
I didn’t realize you were in such dire need. I urge you to investigate these offers soon.
January 15th, 2009 at 6:24 am
No way. That guy is a Poe. I hope…
January 15th, 2009 at 9:28 am
On the internet, even the crazy guy at the bus terminal can have a web site!
January 15th, 2009 at 1:07 pm
Whoa…just whoa.
February 12th, 2009 at 2:13 pm
Did you ever see that movie “never ending story”? Where this boy was reading a book and all of a sudden it starts talking to him and he becomes a charactor in the book. Well, thats similar to how Revelations 17:10 comes across to me when i read it. It says, there are 7 kings: 5 have already fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come;and when he cometh, he must continue a short space. 17:11, and the beast that was,and is not,even he is the eight,and is one of the seven,and goeth into perdition. Know one that i know of has ever figured out that which seems so obvious to me. And that is that Jesus who is the narrator of this book, is talking to some one at a future point in time when he speaks of the 6th king. Because of that word “is” (which is present tense) it allways seemed to me that jesus was talking to ethier the whole world or some one in particular at that point in time. And know one else wood be able to understand coded message. Because it was meant to be understood at a certin point in time. So it seems to me that if i should point this out to you you should be able to understand what i’am saying. The 10th verse says that the 6th king “is” which is present tense. Also it says that 5 of these kings are already fallen. I realized in 2004 who those 5 kings were when i heard there were 5 former pres. still alive during Geoge W. Bush’s 1st term in office. Thats the only time in history when there were 5 former pres. still alive all at one time. Obviously that made George W. Bush king #6. Also in Rev. 17:11 it says that the anti-christ who is the 8th king is also one of the previous 7 kings. So you know thats ethier Gerald Ford, Jimmy Carter, Ronald Reagan, George H. W. Bush, Bill Clinton, George W. Bush or Barack Obama that are the anti-christ. But Barack Obama can’t be the anti-christ because it says in Dan. 11:20 that the person who is the king just before the anti-christ comes to power or in other words the 7th king; “But within a few days he shall be destroyed but not in anger nor in battle.” Where the anti-christ dies from a head wound from the sword (sounds like an assassin). So kings #6 and #7 are Obviously 2 different people. Also G. Ford and R. Reagan never died of head wounds so you can cross them off the list of who could be the possible anti-christ. In 1973 when i was in Phillipsburg, MT. the angel Gabreil tolled me that Jimmy Cater was the anti-christ. That he had sighned a pack with the devil and he would change his name and divorce his wife.
February 12th, 2009 at 3:28 pm
When I read Revelations, it comes across to me as the deranged, demented ramblings of John of Patmos who most assuredly consumed more than his fair share of hallucinogenic mushrooms before setting quill to parchment. I do not know if a similar explanation may be extended to Jim Stensland, but something is definately amiss:
Religion – Making gullible people do stupid things for thousands of years.
February 12th, 2009 at 7:59 pm
Jim has way, way too much time and not enough brains. Bad enough to lack brains, even worse to clutter up what you’ve got with biblical tripe. I’m sure if I smoked a couple of fatties, licked a toad or two, and suffered a severe blow to the skull, the Revelation of St. John might actually make sense to me, too.
February 14th, 2009 at 7:11 am
That is a cunning theory, Jim! Except, two minor flaws…
1. The United States does not have kings. I know, I know — George W. Bush fancied himself a king, but that’s not good enough. And, no, don’t try to weasel out by saying it’s just the fanciful ancient wording of somebody from time’s past who couldn’t contemplate an elected government. If he was seeing into the future, he would have gotten it right, otherwise, it’s just BS, like Nostradamus.
2. Assination by sword to the head? I’m not saying it’s impossible, just highly improbable. And, again, no, a gunshot wound does not equal a sword wound.
Also, if the words of Revelation are literally speaking to you, jumping off the page, and you are suddenly live in the story (a la Neverending Story), you really need to check yourself into a mental institution before it gets worse.
February 18th, 2009 at 2:07 pm
wow…
those posts actually terrify me.
I am far to fearful now to write something deep and meaningful, or at the very least witty. i fear that i live among this kind of person who so judge someone on there religious choices or there skin colour.
February 18th, 2009 at 3:24 pm
I don’t judge on there religious choices or there skin colour. I do judge on there speling and grammer.
February 18th, 2009 at 7:35 pm
I also judge on the perceived sanity of the author as well. Obviously Jim is a few fries short of a Happy Meal.
February 18th, 2009 at 7:43 pm
An enchilada short of a combination plate?
January 8th, 2010 at 4:11 pm
I thought God is suppose to judge others not us.