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	<title>Comments on: The Wisdom of Kent Hovind&#8217;s Followers</title>
	<link>http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/archives/413/the-wisdom-of-kent-hovinds-followers</link>
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	<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 11:00:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>by: Phillip-George (c)1974</title>
		<link>http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/archives/413/the-wisdom-of-kent-hovinds-followers#comment-22214</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 23:36:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>do troll's traul? I admit to fishing for something half interesting that might have been added to the debate. what I found was droll rather than troll. this website deserves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>do troll&#8217;s traul? I admit to fishing for something half interesting that might have been added to the debate. what I found was droll rather than troll. this website deserves.
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		<title>by: Parrotlover77</title>
		<link>http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/archives/413/the-wisdom-of-kent-hovinds-followers#comment-22150</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 13:19:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I hearby call out Copyright as a troll.  He had me going up until the "bloody hell" crack, then his true colors began to show (Poe's Law strikes again).  

He's neither fundie nor non-fundie.  He's just a troll.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hearby call out Copyright as a troll.  He had me going up until the &#8220;bloody hell&#8221; crack, then his true colors began to show (Poe&#8217;s Law strikes again).  </p>
<p>He&#8217;s neither fundie nor non-fundie.  He&#8217;s just a troll.
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		<title>by: Phillip-George (c)1974</title>
		<link>http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/archives/413/the-wisdom-of-kent-hovinds-followers#comment-22139</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 11:57:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>dear Parrotlover77,
as a fellow seeker of wisdom and truth you are obviously engaged in many a speculation about the nature of origins. seeing this particular page is all about the meaningful distinctions that can be made about planets and stars I think we can amicably now agree that arbitrary nomenclature provides no useful insight into modeling the source of the properties that they now display; roughly 6000 years after their creation.

meanwhile, as to a "bloody hell", what makes you think that disembodied spirits have blood. Hell might well be bone dry?  but don't allow me to carry any prejudice into the topic.

thanks again, mirth is good for one's coronaries</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dear Parrotlover77,<br />
as a fellow seeker of wisdom and truth you are obviously engaged in many a speculation about the nature of origins. seeing this particular page is all about the meaningful distinctions that can be made about planets and stars I think we can amicably now agree that arbitrary nomenclature provides no useful insight into modeling the source of the properties that they now display; roughly 6000 years after their creation.</p>
<p>meanwhile, as to a &#8220;bloody hell&#8221;, what makes you think that disembodied spirits have blood. Hell might well be bone dry?  but don&#8217;t allow me to carry any prejudice into the topic.</p>
<p>thanks again, mirth is good for one&#8217;s coronaries
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		<title>by: Parrotlover77</title>
		<link>http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/archives/413/the-wisdom-of-kent-hovinds-followers#comment-22097</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 03:21:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>What the bloody hell is Copyright trying to say?!?  Why am I asking?  I know it won't make any sense at all.  Neptune has an internal heat source so somehow that means that everything in the bible is correct?  Somebody save me before my IQ drops any lower from this conversation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What the bloody hell is Copyright trying to say?!?  Why am I asking?  I know it won&#8217;t make any sense at all.  Neptune has an internal heat source so somehow that means that everything in the bible is correct?  Somebody save me before my IQ drops any lower from this conversation.
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		<title>by: Ron Britton</title>
		<link>http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/archives/413/the-wisdom-of-kent-hovinds-followers#comment-22083</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 01:01:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/archives/413/the-wisdom-of-kent-hovinds-followers#comment-22083</guid>
					<description>Copyright &#169; 1974 by Philip-George.  All rights reserved.</description>
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		<title>by: Phillip-George (c)1974</title>
		<link>http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/archives/413/the-wisdom-of-kent-hovinds-followers#comment-22081</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 00:47:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/archives/413/the-wisdom-of-kent-hovinds-followers#comment-22081</guid>
					<description>you're all missing the point lads,

neptune radiates; means it gives off light; means there is an energy source in it. I am not talking about reflected light. what that light/ energy source is I am not prepared to guess at this point in time - gravitational potential/ collapse or nuclear radioisotopic decay or ........... ??

stars radiate also, at least most of them, it would appear

when you look at the sky you have a watch, inclinonmeter, compass, etc. but by enlarge you are measuring just two things. 1. LUX and 2. wavelength.

that makes neptune a dim star or stars bright planets.

planet simply means "moving" - but my guess is you are unmoved - relatively speaking

so have a great day - time constrained - day in the sun</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you&#8217;re all missing the point lads,</p>
<p>neptune radiates; means it gives off light; means there is an energy source in it. I am not talking about reflected light. what that light/ energy source is I am not prepared to guess at this point in time - gravitational potential/ collapse or nuclear radioisotopic decay or &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.. ??</p>
<p>stars radiate also, at least most of them, it would appear</p>
<p>when you look at the sky you have a watch, inclinonmeter, compass, etc. but by enlarge you are measuring just two things. 1. LUX and 2. wavelength.</p>
<p>that makes neptune a dim star or stars bright planets.</p>
<p>planet simply means &#8220;moving&#8221; - but my guess is you are unmoved - relatively speaking</p>
<p>so have a great day - time constrained - day in the sun
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		<title>by: Brian</title>
		<link>http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/archives/413/the-wisdom-of-kent-hovinds-followers#comment-22055</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 19:50:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/archives/413/the-wisdom-of-kent-hovinds-followers#comment-22055</guid>
					<description>I, for one, found P-G's random collection of words donated to the Bay to be some of the most stupifying idiocy we've seen here, and that's saying something. It's hard to know how to combat the stupid when its just so damned bizarre. 

I don't wish to address his "argument" about celestial objects. I'll leave that to someone capable of understanding whatever the hell he was trying to say. I do want to address this, however:

&lt;blockquote&gt;perhaps one day you will realize what the bible is [God willing]&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Oh, P-G, I know all too well what the bible is. Rarely in human history has a document come along to inspire people to explore the depths of their own depravities like the goddamned bible. If you are looking for an instuction manual on how to inflict misery on others, dumb down our children and treat women like property, this is it. Lest you think I'm picking on Christianity, I happily apply the same description to the koran. The only other document I can think of as being more odious, malevolent, and unforgivable is the good old Malleus Maleficarum, which translated, means "Hammer of the Witches". The book was a sort of 24-hour tech support hotline for those looking to detect, torture, and execute women (in the name of God, of course) during the glorious Inquisition. This gift to humanity came from Christianity, I might mention. 

So, yes. I am well aware of the bible and what it has done to our species, and, if its all the same to you P-G, I'd rather not waste my time on it, OK?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I, for one, found P-G&#8217;s random collection of words donated to the Bay to be some of the most stupifying idiocy we&#8217;ve seen here, and that&#8217;s saying something. It&#8217;s hard to know how to combat the stupid when its just so damned bizarre. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t wish to address his &#8220;argument&#8221; about celestial objects. I&#8217;ll leave that to someone capable of understanding whatever the hell he was trying to say. I do want to address this, however:</p>
<blockquote><p>perhaps one day you will realize what the bible is [God willing]</p></blockquote>
<p>Oh, P-G, I know all too well what the bible is. Rarely in human history has a document come along to inspire people to explore the depths of their own depravities like the goddamned bible. If you are looking for an instuction manual on how to inflict misery on others, dumb down our children and treat women like property, this is it. Lest you think I&#8217;m picking on Christianity, I happily apply the same description to the koran. The only other document I can think of as being more odious, malevolent, and unforgivable is the good old Malleus Maleficarum, which translated, means &#8220;Hammer of the Witches&#8221;. The book was a sort of 24-hour tech support hotline for those looking to detect, torture, and execute women (in the name of God, of course) during the glorious Inquisition. This gift to humanity came from Christianity, I might mention. </p>
<p>So, yes. I am well aware of the bible and what it has done to our species, and, if its all the same to you P-G, I&#8217;d rather not waste my time on it, OK?
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		<title>by: Parrotlover77</title>
		<link>http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/archives/413/the-wisdom-of-kent-hovinds-followers#comment-22027</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 13:29:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I'm confused, is "copyright" a part of his name, or is Phillip-George attempting to copyright his comments on a blog?  Either way, odd.

I know Ron already stated it, but it is worth repeating: the premise that there is &lt;em&gt;no difference&lt;/em&gt; between stars and planets is fundamentally (irony intended) flawed.  It's a bit like saying there is no difference between a battleship and a flower.  &lt;em&gt;Well, by gosh, they are both made of atoms, so that makes them the same?&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m confused, is &#8220;copyright&#8221; a part of his name, or is Phillip-George attempting to copyright his comments on a blog?  Either way, odd.</p>
<p>I know Ron already stated it, but it is worth repeating: the premise that there is <em>no difference</em> between stars and planets is fundamentally (irony intended) flawed.  It&#8217;s a bit like saying there is no difference between a battleship and a flower.  <em>Well, by gosh, they are both made of atoms, so that makes them the same?</em>
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		<title>by: Ron Britton</title>
		<link>http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/archives/413/the-wisdom-of-kent-hovinds-followers#comment-21971</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 03:50:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/archives/413/the-wisdom-of-kent-hovinds-followers#comment-21971</guid>
					<description>Phillip-George (c)1974:

Your premise is that the Bible is 100% correct.  Maybe within that context, there is no practical difference between stars and planets.  However, you premise is incorrect.  The Bible has been shown to be full of factual errors.  Furthermore, out here in the real world, there are many practical differences between stars and planets.  You are welcome to join us out here.  It's not nearly as scary as you think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phillip-George (c)1974:</p>
<p>Your premise is that the Bible is 100% correct.  Maybe within that context, there is no practical difference between stars and planets.  However, you premise is incorrect.  The Bible has been shown to be full of factual errors.  Furthermore, out here in the real world, there are many practical differences between stars and planets.  You are welcome to join us out here.  It&#8217;s not nearly as scary as you think.
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		<title>by: Phillip-George (c)1974</title>
		<link>http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/archives/413/the-wisdom-of-kent-hovinds-followers#comment-21950</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 00:28:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/archives/413/the-wisdom-of-kent-hovinds-followers#comment-21950</guid>
					<description>Dear Ron Britton et al,

you nearly got the point:

"They’re both just points of light in the sky"

but the statement / this quote stand for much more than that. Any distinction between planets and stars is scientifically useless in terms of predicting how these things came to be where they now are. Any distinction between a brown dwarf star and a gas giant planet is really quite useless / quite arbitrary. In terms on nomenclature it gives nothing away.

"Talk about wasting energy!" - if you got it from "nowhere" and it cost you "nothing" then why not use a 'bit'

perhaps one day you will realize what the bible is [God willing]

thankyou for your [collective] posts all the same
for Jesus' name: Phillip-George (c) 1974</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Ron Britton et al,</p>
<p>you nearly got the point:</p>
<p>&#8220;They’re both just points of light in the sky&#8221;</p>
<p>but the statement / this quote stand for much more than that. Any distinction between planets and stars is scientifically useless in terms of predicting how these things came to be where they now are. Any distinction between a brown dwarf star and a gas giant planet is really quite useless / quite arbitrary. In terms on nomenclature it gives nothing away.</p>
<p>&#8220;Talk about wasting energy!&#8221; - if you got it from &#8220;nowhere&#8221; and it cost you &#8220;nothing&#8221; then why not use a &#8216;bit&#8217;</p>
<p>perhaps one day you will realize what the bible is [God willing]</p>
<p>thankyou for your [collective] posts all the same<br />
for Jesus&#8217; name: Phillip-George (c) 1974
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		<title>by: Parrotlover77</title>
		<link>http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/archives/413/the-wisdom-of-kent-hovinds-followers#comment-17266</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 13:34:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Brian, you have discovered Poe's Law.</description>
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		<title>by: Brian</title>
		<link>http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/archives/413/the-wisdom-of-kent-hovinds-followers#comment-17237</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 00:10:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>We've grown so accustomed to fundie stupidity that its often hard to tell the difference at first glance between biting satire and genuine, god-fearing ignorance. Read the mailbag at Landover Baptist Church for some real laughs. There is a frightening number of people who can't tell that its all a parody.

If I were to go onto some Christian blog after a few stiff drinks (I'm with you, Parrotlover...) and start typing the most asinine nonsense I can dream up, it would be met with minimal resistance, especially if I can dredge up some vague bible verse to compliment it. These people will believe anything, except reality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;ve grown so accustomed to fundie stupidity that its often hard to tell the difference at first glance between biting satire and genuine, god-fearing ignorance. Read the mailbag at Landover Baptist Church for some real laughs. There is a frightening number of people who can&#8217;t tell that its all a parody.</p>
<p>If I were to go onto some Christian blog after a few stiff drinks (I&#8217;m with you, Parrotlover&#8230;) and start typing the most asinine nonsense I can dream up, it would be met with minimal resistance, especially if I can dredge up some vague bible verse to compliment it. These people will believe anything, except reality.
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