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	<title>Comments on: How the Fallen Have Fallen. Jerry Bergman Stoops to Kevin Wirth.</title>
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		<title>By: Luke Scientiae</title>
		<link>http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/archives/410/how-the-fallen-have-fallen-jerry-bergman-stoops-to-kevin-wirth/comment-page-2#comment-52993</link>
		<dc:creator>Luke Scientiae</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Sep 2011 17:32:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You might also like this one, which is relates to all cranks, but inspired by my latest email exchanges with Bergman:

http://goo.gl/Ej2WE</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You might also like this one, which is relates to all cranks, but inspired by my latest email exchanges with Bergman:</p>
<p><a href="http://goo.gl/Ej2WE" rel="nofollow">http://goo.gl/Ej2WE</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ron Britton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron Britton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Sep 2011 06:33:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Luke:

That&#039;s excellent!  Thanks for the teardown.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Luke:</p>
<p>That&#8217;s excellent!  Thanks for the teardown.</p>
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		<title>By: Luke Scientiae</title>
		<link>http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/archives/410/how-the-fallen-have-fallen-jerry-bergman-stoops-to-kevin-wirth/comment-page-2#comment-52991</link>
		<dc:creator>Luke Scientiae</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Sep 2011 03:01:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I previously linked to an article debunking Bergman&#039;s chemistry claims. I have now expanded that considerably, taking into account his misuse of terminology, a document he sent me personally and a whole bunch of bullshit I discovered when I followed up on his claims about a supposedly peer-reviewed article. Oh, and he also compared me to a pig. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.lukesci.com/2011/09/17/intelligent-design-and-why-jerry-bergmans-claims-about-chemistry-are-wrong/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; title=&quot;Go to article&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Read all about it here&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I previously linked to an article debunking Bergman&#8217;s chemistry claims. I have now expanded that considerably, taking into account his misuse of terminology, a document he sent me personally and a whole bunch of bullshit I discovered when I followed up on his claims about a supposedly peer-reviewed article. Oh, and he also compared me to a pig. <a href="http://www.lukesci.com/2011/09/17/intelligent-design-and-why-jerry-bergmans-claims-about-chemistry-are-wrong/" target="_blank" title="Go to article" rel="nofollow">Read all about it here</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Parrotlover77</title>
		<link>http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/archives/410/how-the-fallen-have-fallen-jerry-bergman-stoops-to-kevin-wirth/comment-page-2#comment-52790</link>
		<dc:creator>Parrotlover77</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Aug 2011 17:07:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read it yesterday over lunch.  It&#039;s a great article.  Thanks, Luke.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read it yesterday over lunch.  It&#8217;s a great article.  Thanks, Luke.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Britton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron Britton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Aug 2011 05:53:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Luke:

I&#039;m glad to see someone else also tackling that guy&#039;s gibberish.  I&#039;ll have to read your article when I get home, though.  Tourist traps await!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Luke:</p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad to see someone else also tackling that guy&#8217;s gibberish.  I&#8217;ll have to read your article when I get home, though.  Tourist traps await!</p>
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		<title>By: Luke Scientiae</title>
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		<dc:creator>Luke Scientiae</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Aug 2011 02:06:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have found instances where Bergman actually fails to understand the very argument he&#039;s advancing, as for example with atoms (and indeed &quot;everything&quot; being irreducibly complex). To emphasise: it&#039;s not that the argument is wrong (although it would be if he made it), it&#039;s that he doesn&#039;t understand it. I&#039;ve written a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.lukesci.com/2011/09/17/intelligent-design-and-why-jerry-bergmans-claims-about-chemistry-are-wrong/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; title=&quot;Go to article&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;blog post about it here&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have found instances where Bergman actually fails to understand the very argument he&#8217;s advancing, as for example with atoms (and indeed &#8220;everything&#8221; being irreducibly complex). To emphasise: it&#8217;s not that the argument is wrong (although it would be if he made it), it&#8217;s that he doesn&#8217;t understand it. I&#8217;ve written a <a href="http://www.lukesci.com/2011/09/17/intelligent-design-and-why-jerry-bergmans-claims-about-chemistry-are-wrong/" target="_blank" title="Go to article" rel="nofollow">blog post about it here</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Parrotlover77</title>
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		<dc:creator>Parrotlover77</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 May 2010 20:44:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like the ever-knowledgable Mr. Wirth, I&#039;m pretty sure I could self-publish a long list of quote mines too.  Internet makes that possible!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like the ever-knowledgable Mr. Wirth, I&#8217;m pretty sure I could self-publish a long list of quote mines too.  Internet makes that possible!</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Britton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron Britton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 May 2010 02:31:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NSCC:

You&#039;re entitled to ask that question after you learn and comprehend evolution.  You clearly don&#039;t yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NSCC:</p>
<p>You&#8217;re entitled to ask that question after you learn and comprehend evolution.  You clearly don&#8217;t yet.</p>
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		<title>By: NSCC Student</title>
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		<dc:creator>NSCC Student</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 May 2010 01:32:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What kind of research have all of you clowns performed and had published? How many of you have read his book?  Are you all to scared to think outside the box?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What kind of research have all of you clowns performed and had published? How many of you have read his book?  Are you all to scared to think outside the box?</p>
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		<title>By: J.R. "Bob" Dobbs</title>
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		<dc:creator>J.R. "Bob" Dobbs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2010 17:51:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I see that no one else felt their arguments weren&#039;t good enough and had to put their credentials on here to compensate.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Fixed that for you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I see that no one else felt their arguments weren&#8217;t good enough and had to put their credentials on here to compensate.</p></blockquote>
<p>Fixed that for you.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Britton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron Britton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2010 03:37:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NSCC:

We aren&#039;t &quot;against&quot; Dr. Bergman.  We have merely investigated his claims and his actions and have formed our opinions on the evidence.

There is no witch hunt here.  There wasn&#039;t one this morning, there wasn&#039;t one this evening, and there certainly wasn&#039;t one at &quot;noone&quot;, as you claimed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NSCC:</p>
<p>We aren&#8217;t &#8220;against&#8221; Dr. Bergman.  We have merely investigated his claims and his actions and have formed our opinions on the evidence.</p>
<p>There is no witch hunt here.  There wasn&#8217;t one this morning, there wasn&#8217;t one this evening, and there certainly wasn&#8217;t one at &#8220;noone&#8221;, as you claimed.</p>
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		<title>By: NSCC Student</title>
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		<dc:creator>NSCC Student</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2010 03:13:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To all of you against Dr. Bergman. I would have to say that he is one of the best professors at the college. To call him a clown just shows how intelligent all of you actually are. Thanks for the laughs, I see that noone else had the sack to put thier credentials on here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To all of you against Dr. Bergman. I would have to say that he is one of the best professors at the college. To call him a clown just shows how intelligent all of you actually are. Thanks for the laughs, I see that noone else had the sack to put thier credentials on here.</p>
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