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		<title>by: Ron Britton</title>
		<link>http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/archives/397/coral-ridge-hour-exposes-alien-philosophy#comment-15969</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 16:01:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Chuck:

What you are saying is consistent with something I read recently (can't remember where!).  The writer said that of course the Jews were polytheistic.  That's why you have that one commandment that says "Thou shalt have no other god before me."  It's interpreted today to mean that there were many different (false) religions, and the Jews had the one true religion with the one true god.  This guy was saying that no, there were a bunch of supernatural god-like beings, and everybody accepted that as fact.  It's just that this one temperamental crybaby god was the one that was superior to the others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chuck:</p>
<p>What you are saying is consistent with something I read recently (can&#8217;t remember where!).  The writer said that of course the Jews were polytheistic.  That&#8217;s why you have that one commandment that says &#8220;Thou shalt have no other god before me.&#8221;  It&#8217;s interpreted today to mean that there were many different (false) religions, and the Jews had the one true religion with the one true god.  This guy was saying that no, there were a bunch of supernatural god-like beings, and everybody accepted that as fact.  It&#8217;s just that this one temperamental crybaby god was the one that was superior to the others.
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		<title>by: Chuck</title>
		<link>http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/archives/397/coral-ridge-hour-exposes-alien-philosophy#comment-15967</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 15:31:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Ron, wrt to your statement about Genesis 1:26, I think you might find the following interesting.

If you &lt;a href="http://scripturetext.com/genesis/1-26.htm" target="_blank" title="Go to Scripture Text. Opens in new window." rel="nofollow"&gt;look at the Hebrew&lt;/a&gt;, the reason 'God' refers to 'himself' in the second person inclusive is that the Hebrew "elohim" is actually a plural word. You see, /-im/ is the plural suffix in many Semitic languages.

Fun, isn't it?

I'm actually currently writing a paper for one of my courses about the linguistic evidence for the polytheistic roots of monotheism, specifically the link between the ancient Sumerian pantheon and the Jewish god.

Basically the punch line is that the Jewish religion evolved out of a religion which recognized many gods but thought one superior (yahweh, who evolved from the Sumerian Enki), and the other gods (the elohim -sons of El, the Sumerian equivalent of Zeus) were later conflated as a single god by the Jewish priests.

It's really quite clever what they did.

That's where the Christian/Jewish tradition of reading Hebrew scriptures as having "many names" for "God" came from - multiple gods!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ron, wrt to your statement about Genesis 1:26, I think you might find the following interesting.</p>
<p>If you <a href="http://scripturetext.com/genesis/1-26.htm" target="_blank" title="Go to Scripture Text. Opens in new window." rel="nofollow">look at the Hebrew</a>, the reason &#8216;God&#8217; refers to &#8216;himself&#8217; in the second person inclusive is that the Hebrew &#8220;elohim&#8221; is actually a plural word. You see, /-im/ is the plural suffix in many Semitic languages.</p>
<p>Fun, isn&#8217;t it?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m actually currently writing a paper for one of my courses about the linguistic evidence for the polytheistic roots of monotheism, specifically the link between the ancient Sumerian pantheon and the Jewish god.</p>
<p>Basically the punch line is that the Jewish religion evolved out of a religion which recognized many gods but thought one superior (yahweh, who evolved from the Sumerian Enki), and the other gods (the elohim -sons of El, the Sumerian equivalent of Zeus) were later conflated as a single god by the Jewish priests.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s really quite clever what they did.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s where the Christian/Jewish tradition of reading Hebrew scriptures as having &#8220;many names&#8221; for &#8220;God&#8221; came from - multiple gods!
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		<title>by: Parrotlover77</title>
		<link>http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/archives/397/coral-ridge-hour-exposes-alien-philosophy#comment-15962</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 14:44:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Watcher - Correct that it doesn't make it any less true, but it's very important to point out that eugenics and genocide is not in any way NATURAL selection (even in quotes - I don't want an on-the-fencer to get the wrong idea).  It is ARTIFICIAL selection, which predates Charles Darwin by centuries.  It was based entirely on farming principles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Watcher - Correct that it doesn&#8217;t make it any less true, but it&#8217;s very important to point out that eugenics and genocide is not in any way NATURAL selection (even in quotes - I don&#8217;t want an on-the-fencer to get the wrong idea).  It is ARTIFICIAL selection, which predates Charles Darwin by centuries.  It was based entirely on farming principles.
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		<title>by: The Watcher</title>
		<link>http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/archives/397/coral-ridge-hour-exposes-alien-philosophy#comment-15930</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 23:03:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Just so we're all clear--I think what I'm hearing is what I've been saying for a long time. Hitler or not Hitler, it doesn't matter. If Darwin had never conceived the theory, if Hitler had never read it and gone on a rampage (and I'm not saying he did), is entirely irrelevant. Evolution would still be taking place, even if we couldn't see it.

So maybe Hitler &lt;i&gt;did&lt;/i&gt; read some Darwin, and come up with the idea that he could enact a little "natural selection" himself. Well, that's terrible, but so what? Doesn't make it any less true. Not one tiny iota.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just so we&#8217;re all clear&#8211;I think what I&#8217;m hearing is what I&#8217;ve been saying for a long time. Hitler or not Hitler, it doesn&#8217;t matter. If Darwin had never conceived the theory, if Hitler had never read it and gone on a rampage (and I&#8217;m not saying he did), is entirely irrelevant. Evolution would still be taking place, even if we couldn&#8217;t see it.</p>
<p>So maybe Hitler <i>did</i> read some Darwin, and come up with the idea that he could enact a little &#8220;natural selection&#8221; himself. Well, that&#8217;s terrible, but so what? Doesn&#8217;t make it any less true. Not one tiny iota.
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		<title>by: Parrotlover77</title>
		<link>http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/archives/397/coral-ridge-hour-exposes-alien-philosophy#comment-15895</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 15:53:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Darwinism would be simply killing the physically/mentally disabled, the moderately weak and allowing only the strongest to survive (regardless of race, ethnicity, etc). &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Incorrect.  So-called "Darwinism" is simply another way of saying "natural selection."  There is nothing natural about killing the weak or retarded simply because they are weak or retarded.  Left to nature, this hypothetical sample group may very well procreate before dying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Darwinism would be simply killing the physically/mentally disabled, the moderately weak and allowing only the strongest to survive (regardless of race, ethnicity, etc). </p></blockquote>
<p>Incorrect.  So-called &#8220;Darwinism&#8221; is simply another way of saying &#8220;natural selection.&#8221;  There is nothing natural about killing the weak or retarded simply because they are weak or retarded.  Left to nature, this hypothetical sample group may very well procreate before dying.
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		<title>by: matt</title>
		<link>http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/archives/397/coral-ridge-hour-exposes-alien-philosophy#comment-15891</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 14:09:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Man, I heard this guy yesterday on the radio and my jaw dropped. I doubt the man has ever picked up a history book in his life.

"Doctor" my ass. I sent him an email, called him "rev."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man, I heard this guy yesterday on the radio and my jaw dropped. I doubt the man has ever picked up a history book in his life.</p>
<p>&#8220;Doctor&#8221; my ass. I sent him an email, called him &#8220;rev.&#8221;
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		<title>by: Tom</title>
		<link>http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/archives/397/coral-ridge-hour-exposes-alien-philosophy#comment-15825</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 23:55:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>It's hard to say what Hitler was basing his ideas on. On the one hand, he was using non-Darwinian techniques to create his 'master-race.' Darwinism would be simply killing the physically/mentally disabled, the moderately weak and allowing only the strongest to survive (regardless of race, ethnicity, etc). However, in Mein Kampf, he did write a lot about how life and nature was all about struggle and survival of the fittest (which is quite Darwinian). My conclusion: he was a f*cking lunatic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s hard to say what Hitler was basing his ideas on. On the one hand, he was using non-Darwinian techniques to create his &#8216;master-race.&#8217; Darwinism would be simply killing the physically/mentally disabled, the moderately weak and allowing only the strongest to survive (regardless of race, ethnicity, etc). However, in Mein Kampf, he did write a lot about how life and nature was all about struggle and survival of the fittest (which is quite Darwinian). My conclusion: he was a f*cking lunatic.
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		<title>by: Ron Britton</title>
		<link>http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/archives/397/coral-ridge-hour-exposes-alien-philosophy#comment-15819</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 21:42:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Daniel:

He said God was science.  "Science" comes from the Latin "scientia", which means knowledge.  God is omniscient; therefore, God is science!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daniel:</p>
<p>He said God was science.  &#8220;Science&#8221; comes from the Latin &#8220;scientia&#8221;, which means knowledge.  God is omniscient; therefore, God is science!
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		<title>by: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/archives/397/coral-ridge-hour-exposes-alien-philosophy#comment-15816</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 20:50:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Did DJK at any time give his definition of 'science' or 'proto-science'?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did DJK at any time give his definition of &#8217;science&#8217; or &#8216;proto-science&#8217;?
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		<title>by: Zach Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/archives/397/coral-ridge-hour-exposes-alien-philosophy#comment-15814</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 19:09:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>*shudder*

Just awful. I don't know how you can listen to that crap!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*shudder*</p>
<p>Just awful. I don&#8217;t know how you can listen to that crap!
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		<title>by: Jeremy White</title>
		<link>http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/archives/397/coral-ridge-hour-exposes-alien-philosophy#comment-15811</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 18:10:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Is there anyway of reaching them with the truth? I'm just shocked at how people can reject science. If somebody had told me there are people who didn't believe in science as a kid, I would have thought they were liars. Now I know the truth and it just amazes me.

A bit off topic, but I like the title/alt text of the MPD link! Nice job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there anyway of reaching them with the truth? I&#8217;m just shocked at how people can reject science. If somebody had told me there are people who didn&#8217;t believe in science as a kid, I would have thought they were liars. Now I know the truth and it just amazes me.</p>
<p>A bit off topic, but I like the title/alt text of the MPD link! Nice job.
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		<title>by: Arkonbey</title>
		<link>http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/archives/397/coral-ridge-hour-exposes-alien-philosophy#comment-15810</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 18:08:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Your 'Henry Ford/getaway car' is a better analogy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your &#8216;Henry Ford/getaway car&#8217; is a better analogy.
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