Florida Teens Believe Drinking Bleach Will Prevent HIV

If I couldn't have it, neither can you

Here’s a short piece from Channel 6 News in Florida:

ORLANDO, Fla. — Florida teens who believe drinking a cap of bleach will prevent HIV and a shot of Mountain Dew will stop pregnancy have prompted lawmakers to push for an overhaul of sex education in the state.

Another myth is that Florida teens also believe that smoking marijuana will prevent a person from getting pregnant, Local 6 reported.

State lawmakers said the myths are spreading because of Florida’s abstinence-only sex education, Local 6 reported.

They are proposing a bill that would require a more comprehensive approach, the report said.

It would still require teaching abstinence but students would also learn about condoms and other methods of birth control and disease prevention.

Abstinence-only sex “education” strikes again.

(via The Wild Wild Left)

17 Responses to “Florida Teens Believe Drinking Bleach Will Prevent HIV”

  1. Rose / Intergalactic Hussy Says:

    Wow, and I grew up in Florida (technically, Miami so its a little different) and never would have believed such tarded things. But I grew up in a largely Jewish community (& raised Jewish) where they started sex ed early in my public school. Surely, they said abstinence is the best way not to get pregnant or STDs, but they were never swayed to not teach about condoms and natural acts.

    I’m glad I got a decent sex ed as early as 3rd grade. And it just saddens me to think that other students are and will continue to be deprived of a real education.

  2. Warren Says:

    Wait I’m confused. If they are teaching abstinence only then why is this even an issue? I mean if you just tell the kids not to have sex they won’t have sex right? Biological urges be damned the teacher said not to have sex and they as teenagers always do what people in authority tell them to do. Right?

  3. Parrotlover77 Says:

    I grew up in Florida too (Gainesville). We started sex ed (called “Human Growth and Development”) in 5th grade and one of the first topics was condoms. I also never believed such retarded stories but I can see how kids who know nothing of real birth control, and do not want to be abstitent, might believe anything. I mean they are kids afterall. Should they be having sex? Probably not. Will they? Hell yea. So make them safe. Damn. Then about every other year, there was another sex ed segment (refresher course) in some class (life management skills in High School, I remember pretty clearly). My poor beloved state of Florida… It used to be so much more liberal until Jeb… Amazing how a Bush can fuck things up. Amazing how the Hispanic (particularly Cuban) loyalty to Republicans in the Miami area can pull elections far from where they should be. I mean they are liberal people, but they hated Castro so much, they voted Republican. I’m overgeneralizing, but there was a significant impact. Sigh. I hope things get better since ol’ Castro has stepped down.

  4. Ron Britton Says:

    Warren:

    I mean if you just tell the kids not to have sex they won’t have sex right?

    “Just say no” worked for drugs!

  5. Parrotlover77 Says:

    Speaking of which, is there a catchy abstinence catch-phrase like “Just Say No?”

    Just curious.

    “Just Say Blow!” maybe?

  6. Ron Britton Says:

    “Just say no! Use a dildo!”

  7. Nigel Says:

    I’m curious, how many more of these stories do we have to sit through until the morons in charge of overarching Federal Program (which is a big reason for all the abstinence only education, b/c if schools want federal money, they gotta teach abstinence only) before they shut it down. I mean it’s been proven to be an ineffective system, the more you tell a kid NOT to do something the more likely they are to do just that.

  8. Parrotlover77 Says:

    Good point, Nigel. The sooner we dump “No Child Left Behind” programs, the better. I never did understand giving less money to the schools that need more help.

  9. The Watcher Says:

    Am I the only one who opposes abstinence only, whether it “works” or not? No, I don’t endorse young people having sex. No, I don’t think it’s a good idea. And in fact, I believe in waiting.

    …but not waiting until marriage. That’s a Biblical value, with no basis in logic or rationality. And I don’t want that taught in school.

  10. Ron Britton Says:

    Watcher:

    I, too, am opposed to abstinence-only because it is Biblically based. But that argument is merely my morals vs. their morals. It’s a legitimate discussion, but there isn’t a clear-cut answer. Society grapples with all issues that way and somehow comes to a consensus on these issues. That way isn’t likely to lead to a clear-cut revokation of these programs.

    But if you look at whether they are effective, not only are they completely non-effective, they’re monumentally reverse effective. Kids end up engaging in even riskier behaviors.

    So if you want these programs eliminated, the way to attack them is on their results, not their philosophy.

  11. The Watcher Says:

    “But that argument is merely my morals vs. their morals….So if you want these programs eliminated, the way to attack them is on their results, not their philosophy.”

    If that’s what it takes, I suppose. However, I want to be on record with this, because I don’t want anyone to think I support repealing abstinence-only just for the politically expedient reasons.

    I don’t like the teachings, but I can phrase it in more reality-based language. The simple fact is, the programs teach “abstinence until marriage,” which, because marriage is no more than a contract (and one that can be broken easily and in myriad ways), there is no point in teaching “abstinence until marriage.” Fundies love to scream about STI’s (although they still call them STDs) and unwanted pregnancy. Yet here are two things that marriage WILL NOT DO:

    1. Prevent you from getting pregnant.
    2. Prevent you from getting an STD.

    Things that will help:

    1. Condoms and birth control pills, used properly.
    2. Not having sex with people who have STDs.

    I would find abstinence-only much more palatable if it was “abstinence until you feel safe and secure with your partner, and are knowledgeable enough to take sensible steps.” But no, it’s not that. It’s “Marriage,” which is the same as everything I just said, plus fundie. Which is why it irritates me so.

    If they’d let go of this “marriage” crap, and came back to the real world, I’d happily join the rest of you in the “it doesn’t work” camp. But since the religious values part irritates me more than the actual, statistical science of it, apparently I’m the type of person who has a knee-jerk reaction to force-feeding religious values even more than I do with things that are >i>tangible problems.

    While this probably doesn’t surprise anyone here, I think it makes it pretty clear that I have issues.

  12. Snowe Says:

    I’m not surprised. I went to a private high school in MS that, while not explicitly religious, was conservative enough to disdain sex ed. Instead, we had the occasional abstinence speaker come in, with their bullshit metaphors. “Sex is a present, and every time you have it, it gets smaller! But you can rewrap it and be a pretend virgin again!” They handed out pledges, too, but I never signed them; I had no intentions of waiting for marriage! (College, but not marriage!) As a result, a lot of kids didn’t know you could get STD’s from oral sex, or anything like that.

    The best sex ed I got (I didn’t have access to the internet until after my junior year of hs) was from those silly teen magazines. About every year they’d run a special on birth control and such. I’m really glad they did that, because too many kids had no access to accurate information before everyone had access to the web.

  13. Parrotlover77 Says:

    Watcher – I don’t think we disagree on anything here. I’m certainly against it for both reasons (based on a single belief system not everybody shares AND it doesn’t work). It’s just easier for fringe-sane fundies to move to our side if we emphasize that it just simply doesn’t work instead of that we just don’t like their philosophy, regardless of if it worked or not.

  14. ~*~KIMBERLY ROSE~*~ Says:

    Im a teen, but i don’t live in Florida and honestly I don’t think we should be having sex, i believe that you should wait till marrige, just because that is what i was taught. TEENs are just being retarted. and want an excuse to have sex. They all know its not true, bleach, come on, what good is that going to do. AND mountain dew what the f. how is that going to prevent anything.

  15. Parrotlover77 Says:

    Kimberly, you’d be surprised at the level of ignornace some of your peers have about STDs. This is why it is important to teach sex ed. Not because “nobody knows” but because SOME don’t and not wanting to come off as “not cool” do not want to ask their friends (who really are not that great of a reference anyway), nor their parents or other adults for a wide variety of reasons. When you subject everybody to it in school, everybody who has half a brain cell learns it.

  16. Sarah Says:

    Agreed with The Watcher. Marriage is not some uber-amazing never fail form of contraception…plus, have they looked at the divorce rate? I mean seriously…My parents lasted 22 years together and STILL got a divorce!

    Also I want to add one more point to this conversation (Since no one has really brought it up yet): What about the parents? I mean, yes, the schools need to take some god damn responsibility, but the parents should too. I mean, even if they are fundies, they should still know that bleach and Mountain Dew (Which, just to clarify, if you drink enough of it will in fact lower the guy’s sperm count…but that’s like a swimming pool size amount) will not stop you from getting pregnant.

    And even if they do teach “abstinence only”, they should still tell them of all the dangers present by having sex! You can’t just tell someone “Don’t do something cause it’s bad for you.” You need to tell them WHY it’s bad (Not that I think sex is bad…)

    I really don’t get why these people don’t just try and give reasons for waiting (It’d definitely help their cause for one thing). I personally support all forms of valid birth-control, but if others don’t then they still need to be convincing (even to themselves) to the people they are trying to “help”.

    So why should I wait? Because then I will probably be with someone who has been in a relationship with me for a while and genuinely cares about me. Why should I wait for that person? Because it will make the whole experience of it all the better, because I will care about them and they will care about me.

    But no…they just say “Don’t have sex,” clap the kids on the shoulder, and run back out, smug that they have ‘saved’ another possible heathen from going to hell due to premarital sex.

    Nice…

  17. Sharley Says:

    According to a Mormon girl I went to high school with, one of the unofficial slogans of BYU is “Be Moral, Go Oral!” Because apparently it doesn’t count as sex unless Tab A goes into Slot B, or…something.

    Personally, I think teenagers having sex is a bad idea, but they’re teenagers. They’ve had sex since probably the dawn of time, and will probably continue to do so until the human race eventually dies out. I live in Washington State, and since the 80’s we’ve had very comprehensive sex ed courses — information about STD’s and their transmission, how to properly use a condom, the advantages vs. disadvantages of different kinds of birth control, etc. There are even clinics where teenage girls can go to get birth control without needing parental permission, because hey, they’re going to have sex ANYWAY, so they might as well be as safe about it as they can be. You’d think the failure of the D.A.R.E. program would give these fundies a clue that the ‘Just Say No’ approach Just Doesn’t Work.