Ben Stein IS Rosa Parks!
Kevin Wirth, our favorite crackpot creatard, has written an article over at the ARN blog: “Ben Stein is the Rosa Parks of Darwin Skeptics”. Their current strategy is to portray the effort to inject their religion into the public schools as a civil rights issue. We’ve seen this rubbish from them before. I previously reported on a Discovery Institute article comparing themselves to Martin Luther King, Jr.
Wirth writes:
Years ago Rosa Parks got on a bus and sat where she shouldn’t have – a form of protest letting the world know she’d had enough. Ben Stein, about as unlikely a candidate as Rosa for similar notoriety, has now done much the same thing, only this time the issue isn’t about racial prejudice, it’s about prejudice against those who question any aspect of evolution. And this time the vehicle for the protest isn’t a bus, but a documentary.
That’s right, Kevin. You and your buddies are enslaved, being lynched, denied the vote, and forced to use the “creationist” drinking fountain.
April 1st, 2008 at 2:31 pm
…And this time it isn’t a brave individual who will become an important historical figure, but a second rate B movie actor whose head hurt when he tried to understand evolution, so instead of educating himself, gave up and decided the law should promote his ignorance. So he made a movie about it. Like it hear it, hear it go!
April 1st, 2008 at 5:27 pm
Rosa Parks sat in the front of the bus and refused to move because she was tired, first of all. She did not intend it to be “a form of protest letting the world know she’d had enough”.
I used to kind of like Ben Stein (for a Republican); he seemed smart. Maybe he is with money, I don’t know. But he surely doesn’t understand how science works. If an idea is thrown out by so many people, there’s a clear reason behind it. If it fails the scientific method several times by different scientists, then its not considered a scientific theory.
What gets me the most is the tag line on the Expelled site regarding “smart new ideas”. Let alone, they aren’t smart…they surely aren’t new.
April 1st, 2008 at 5:30 pm
Wouldn’t PZ Meyers being thrown out of a showing of “Expelled” be a more apt comparison to Rosa Parks?
After all when was the last time Ben Stein was thrown out of anywhere?
Diagnosis,
METAPHOR FAIL
April 1st, 2008 at 7:19 pm
I just hope Kevin Wirth is dumb enough to comment here again. Oh please, Oh please, Oh please……
Well. Ben Stein, despite Wirth’s fanciful imagination, is no Rosa Parks. The only thing he has become symbolic of is stupidity, which is why, I suppose, the idiots at ARN have made him their poster boy. They positively revel in a level of intellectual denseness attainable only through the wonders of religion.
April 2nd, 2008 at 5:28 am
Hey, a rich, white guy defending a ‘scientific’ argument that whether it is true or not would leave him in the same social and economic status is EXACTLY like a working-class black woman who was fed up with being treated like a second-class citizen and being forced to defer to others simply because of the color of her skin.
They are truly two peas from the same moral pod! Especially, as RayCeeYa alluded to, as they were both incarcerated for their beliefs.
April 2nd, 2008 at 7:24 am
XD pwnd
April 2nd, 2008 at 7:57 am
Wow, what an insult to the Civil Rights movement and to Rosa Parks.
April 2nd, 2008 at 8:16 am
“it’s about prejudice against those who question any aspect of evolution.”
Yes, because all the lateral gene transfer researchers are being fired, and you can’t get a grant to study endogenous reteroviruses, and studying endosymbiosis will end your career.
Oh, you don’t mean asking research questions about evolution, you mean denial of evolution? Well, they would be “biased” against about as much as a doctor who denied germ theory, or a nuclear physicist who denied nuclear theory:
Academic failure is the natural consequence of intellectual laziness and dishonesty, ie you’ve flunked out, don’t mix it up with being “expelled”.
April 2nd, 2008 at 11:41 am
I just checked out a hosting of the trailer on YouTube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGCxbhGaVfE
Surprisingly, tons of people are “excited” to see this movie and think it’s about time.
I decided to put some truth on the comments, criticizing the movie for going strictly for an emotional appeal without citing any evidence for ID (since there is none) except talking about gaps in evolution, which doesn’t do anything to prove ID….at this point, I realize comments are being filtered. Only those in support are approved.
This is what I see from the ID community: Censor anything making people aware of the failures of logic.
April 2nd, 2008 at 2:23 pm
Well I submitted a comment too… just to keep them busy filtering out logical comments.
April 3rd, 2008 at 5:16 pm
@Jeremy:
When I try and click on that trailer, youtube tells me that “This video is not available in your country.” (I’m in Germany).
This is pretty much the definition of what I would call “telling”. Very Free-Speech-y, indeed.
April 7th, 2008 at 4:21 pm
Response to this comment: “That’s right, Kevin. You and your buddies are enslaved, being lynched, denied the vote, and forced to use the “creationist” drinking fountain.”
No, me and my “buddies” are being denied their civil rights, flat out. It’s long past the time for this issue to be aired and addressed for what it is.
And all of your wonderful comments simply add more evidence to the point about us “Creatards”. Keep up the good work!
April 7th, 2008 at 5:25 pm
Poor Kevin Wirth! One little blogger out of the entire internet calls him a “creatard”, and that’s somehow proof that all creationists are being repressed, and it justifies all of the wild claims in Expelled! No Brain Found.
April 8th, 2008 at 7:10 am
I believe in pink unicorns. I DEMAND that the existence of pink unicorns be taught in schools. If my demands are not met or if anybody insults me, my civil rights are being violated and I will go down in history as the next Rosa Parks!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111oneoneone
April 8th, 2008 at 8:52 am
Kevin:
Would you like a little cheese with your whine?
April 10th, 2008 at 12:09 am
Hey Ron, no thanks, I’ll catch more later.
OH, and just one more thing. This post makes an erroneous factual reference about my intent…
“…current strategy is to portray the effort to inject their religion into the public schools as a civil rights issue”
Actually, I DON’T support teaching religion in the public schools as a civil rights issue, I support helping kids understand when someone discriminated against them and violates their civil rights for any reason which has been deemed illegal.
April 10th, 2008 at 1:18 am
Kevin:
And just how are you “helping kids understand when someone discriminated against them”? By lying to the kids and telling them that evolution isn’t real and factual and there’s this neat “theory” called
creationism“Intelligent Design” that’s equally valid.Intelligent Design = creationism = religion.
October 27th, 2008 at 5:17 pm
that picture suks. Because that man don’t sopost to be ther.
October 27th, 2008 at 5:19 pm
Rosa Parks was a good ladi. She died in octuber 24,2005 in Detroi, Michigan.
April 2nd, 2009 at 7:10 am
ok look your rong rosa just got back from a day at work and thats one of the reasons she wouldnt move. im doing a report and thats what all my sources say so get the facts right.
April 2nd, 2009 at 7:29 am
Must … resist … temptation … !
April 2nd, 2009 at 4:04 pm
It’s un-fucking-believable, isn’t it?
I weep for the future.
April 3rd, 2009 at 5:56 am
You oldies. If you were on the internet when you were 8, you wouldn’t have done any better.
April 3rd, 2009 at 7:18 am
This is going to sound really smug or arrogant, and I’m sorry. I’m not trying to be. But I wrote a book when I was 8.
April 3rd, 2009 at 8:08 am
About what?
April 3rd, 2009 at 8:10 am
Racial discrimination.
April 3rd, 2009 at 1:04 pm
Okay, when I was eight, I was geekily playing on the computer like I do today, but I was nowhere near being able to write a book. Not that I am now or anything. Give the kid a break. Unless the kid comes back and turns out to be 17. Then, well, there’s no hope.
April 3rd, 2009 at 9:28 pm
Actually, I think it was Ken Ham.
April 4th, 2009 at 2:15 pm
Did you get it published?
April 4th, 2009 at 2:19 pm
No. My parents kept talking about submitting it, but instead they just sat on their asses. So that book and the two I wrote after ended up in a closet.
I did look for it yesterday. I thought it was in a certain box, but that box only contained other broken dreams.