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	<title>Comments on: Ben Stein&#8217;s Skeptics&#8217; Circle</title>
	<link>http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/archives/378/ben-steins-skeptics-circle</link>
	<description>Keeping the Radical Right at Bay</description>
	<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 14:34:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>by: Ron Britton</title>
		<link>http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/archives/378/ben-steins-skeptics-circle#comment-14636</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 02:57:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Watcher:

These are the same people who say that the Bible is God's word, because it says it is!  Logic is not their strong suit.</description>
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<p>These are the same people who say that the Bible is God&#8217;s word, because it says it is!  Logic is not their strong suit.
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		<title>by: The Watcher</title>
		<link>http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/archives/378/ben-steins-skeptics-circle#comment-14634</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 02:14:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I've been saying this for a long time. It makes me pound my head in frustration to hear this argument, and I love the blurb by Skeptico above.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been saying this for a long time. It makes me pound my head in frustration to hear this argument, and I love the blurb by Skeptico above.
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		<title>by: Ron Britton</title>
		<link>http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/archives/378/ben-steins-skeptics-circle#comment-14587</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 22:27:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>The term came out of the &lt;i&gt;Kitzmiller v. Dover&lt;/i&gt; trial.  An early draft of &lt;i&gt;Of Pandas and People&lt;/i&gt; used the term "creationist".  They decided to hide ID's creationist roots, so they changed all instances of "creationist" to "design proponent".  In one place, they didn't select the entire word, so they ended up with "cdesign proponentist".  &lt;a href="http://www.skepticwiki.org/index.php/Cdesign_proponentist" target="_blank" title="Go to SkepticWiki. Opens in new window." rel="nofollow"&gt;SkepticWiki has more&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The term came out of the <i>Kitzmiller v. Dover</i> trial.  An early draft of <i>Of Pandas and People</i> used the term &#8220;creationist&#8221;.  They decided to hide ID&#8217;s creationist roots, so they changed all instances of &#8220;creationist&#8221; to &#8220;design proponent&#8221;.  In one place, they didn&#8217;t select the entire word, so they ended up with &#8220;cdesign proponentist&#8221;.  <a href="http://www.skepticwiki.org/index.php/Cdesign_proponentist" target="_blank" title="Go to SkepticWiki. Opens in new window." rel="nofollow">SkepticWiki has more</a>.
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		<title>by: Parrotlover77</title>
		<link>http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/archives/378/ben-steins-skeptics-circle#comment-14586</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 22:11:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Okay, I'll bite.  What's the deal with "cdesign?"

I'm assuming it's some sort of short-hand for creationist/IDer, but I've never seen that before.  Where did that orginate from?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, I&#8217;ll bite.  What&#8217;s the deal with &#8220;cdesign?&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m assuming it&#8217;s some sort of short-hand for creationist/IDer, but I&#8217;ve never seen that before.  Where did that orginate from?
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