Intelligent Design Venn Diagram

ID Venn Diagram
(From Saint Gasoline, via My Confined Space)

59 Responses to “Intelligent Design Venn Diagram”

  1. Jeff Eyges Says:

    I don’t even understand spam, really. My Gmail account got hacked last week, and ads for Viagra went out to hundreds of people in my address book (I think you guys might have gotten them). Does anyone actually buy stuff through these links – enough to make it worth their while? Or is it all just automated, so it doesn’t actually take up any of their time?

  2. Draken Says:

    Thanks Jeff, I’ll have a hardon from now until christmas!

    Seriously though, yes, the process from the harvesting of addresses to the transmission of mail is pretty much automated. Most transmissions take place via botnets of hijacked PCs (mostly Windows), unseen by their owner, or from unreachable almost-lawless countries such as China and Russia. I also suspect that there are relatively few active megaspammers- perhaps just a few dozen. At least they all seem to use the same online shopping software.

    Because it costs them zilch, and a sucker’s born every 1 minute and 38.22 seconds, it’s a safe venture even if they don’t make much money off of it.

  3. Parrotlover77 Says:

    Jeff – I remember reading an article a long time ago (maybe in the early naughts) that asked the very question you ask, does anybody actually buy through these links? I don’t think it was scientific, as they pretty much just had a few interviews with people who bought from spam, so there was no way to know how common those people were.

    Doing a gazoogle on spam conversion rate, I found a PDF from Berkeley doing an analysis on the conversion rate. They admit there are flaws in the study, as they only had access to a single data point (one they controlled), but they found the following…

    After 26 days, and almost 350 million e-mail messages, only 28 sales resulted — a conversion rate of well under 0.00001%. Of these, all but one were for male-enhancement products and the average purchase price was close to $100.

    Not surprising that the product that actually sold were penis pills (us men are so gullable), but at that fantastically low conversion rate, how do these guys get money to run the servers that send the spam?

    The only thing I can think of is that they are basically running a scam on those who use their spamming service to sell their product. And then the rest of us have to deal with the very expensive mess.

    Link to the PDF. I just skimmed. It’s only 12 pages long, but christ academic types are wordy. I nearly fell asleep halfway through the abstract.

  4. Draken Says:

    how do these guys get money to run the servers that send the spam?

    Like I said, they don’t. The established spammers mostly use botnets of hijacked PCs. Here’s an article at Techrepublic about that.

  5. Parrotlover77 Says:

    Draken – Point taken.

    Microsoft offers a free antivirus now (and it’s good — it’s the same engine as the Forefront engine). But they can’t bundle it with Windows for fear of antitrust litigation from McAfee, Symantec, et al. Damn shame.

  6. James Smith João Pessoa, Brazil Says:

    Why should we be surprised? Theists are the most untrustworthy, intolerant, hate-filled people on earth. Violence, deceptions, distortions, and outright lies have been the methodology of theists since the first shaman shook a pebble-filled rattle.

    Most of the problems of the world are, and always have been, caused by religion. Mankind will never truly be free until the black yoke of religion is lifted by the clear light of truth and rational thinking.

  7. Chris Says:

    Just surfing looking for a template for Venn Diagrams – and up pops this diagram on Google.
    Hillarious!!! Very clever and very true.

  8. Kiwiatheist Says:

    4. The Jewish god is the same as the Christian god (Theoretically. If you actually read the Bible, you’d see that they can’t be the same entity.

    I’m interested in this comment. Please can you elaborate?

    I also find it funny how those like knuckle-head (or whatever his name is) purport to be scientifically-inclined, but can’t construct a grammatically correct and correctly spelled sentence. What are they teaching in US schools these days – ID? 😉


  9. Ron Britton Says:


    The Jewish God (Old Testament) is angry and spends most of his time smiting people. The Christian God (New Testament) is mostly sweetness and light.

    If you search the internet, you’ll discover lots of Christian apologetics trying to explain this difference. That’s just proof that the differences are so profound that Christians need to do mental calisthenics to reconcile the stories. In other words, the stories are clearly contradictory. If you view them rationally and dispassionately, you can only conclude that the God characters are clearly two different critters.