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	<title>Comments on: Efforts to Save Mount Soledad Memorial Face Hypocrisy</title>
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		<title>By: The Reverend</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Reverend</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Apr 2010 09:01:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Thou shalt not make any graven image&quot; doesn&#039;t strictly mean &quot;of people&quot;. After all, the idolitors attacked by the bible were all about a golden calf. A cross is too a &quot;graven image&quot;.

The fish logo used today by christians came about by two things. 

1. Egyptian children wore fish neclaces to prevent drowning. This is called sympathetic talismans.

2. The fish emblem as depicted today is the YONI turned on its side. The Yoni is an icon representing a woman&#039;s vagina and strongly connected to Goddess worship. 

Like everything else in christian magic, they stole the fish too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Thou shalt not make any graven image&#8221; doesn&#8217;t strictly mean &#8220;of people&#8221;. After all, the idolitors attacked by the bible were all about a golden calf. A cross is too a &#8220;graven image&#8221;.</p>
<p>The fish logo used today by christians came about by two things. </p>
<p>1. Egyptian children wore fish neclaces to prevent drowning. This is called sympathetic talismans.</p>
<p>2. The fish emblem as depicted today is the YONI turned on its side. The Yoni is an icon representing a woman&#8217;s vagina and strongly connected to Goddess worship. </p>
<p>Like everything else in christian magic, they stole the fish too.</p>
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		<title>By: Parrotlover77</title>
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		<dc:creator>Parrotlover77</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 22:55:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is an oldy but goody.  I had not read it until now!

I never did understand the whole cross thing.  I&#039;ve heard followers refer to ornate depictions in art of the cross as &quot;absolutely beautiful.&quot;  Really?  One of the most horrendous implements of torture ever devised by the disgusting black depths of some twisted people&#039;s hearts is… beautiful?

Why not have the favorite christian symbol be the damn fish?  At least it had a cute story associated with it (whether or not it&#039;s true).  Or how about a sheep (you know, born in a manger)?  Or maybe the star of bethlehem?  Those are all happy christ memories.  Why choose his implement of torture?  To signify his sacrifice, okay.  But then when make it all ornate and shit instead of the disgusting vile device it actually is?

Where&#039;s my ornate electric chair necklace?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an oldy but goody.  I had not read it until now!</p>
<p>I never did understand the whole cross thing.  I&#8217;ve heard followers refer to ornate depictions in art of the cross as &#8220;absolutely beautiful.&#8221;  Really?  One of the most horrendous implements of torture ever devised by the disgusting black depths of some twisted people&#8217;s hearts is… beautiful?</p>
<p>Why not have the favorite christian symbol be the damn fish?  At least it had a cute story associated with it (whether or not it&#8217;s true).  Or how about a sheep (you know, born in a manger)?  Or maybe the star of bethlehem?  Those are all happy christ memories.  Why choose his implement of torture?  To signify his sacrifice, okay.  But then when make it all ornate and shit instead of the disgusting vile device it actually is?</p>
<p>Where&#8217;s my ornate electric chair necklace?</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 23:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, Heff, I meant to say PLAYBOY bunny. As a boy growing up, my dad had a particular fondness for Penthouse, which limited my covert adolescent indulgences in porn to only one of many possible avenues. Hence, the Penthouse error. I profoundly apologize if any Playboy supporters are offended.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, Heff, I meant to say PLAYBOY bunny. As a boy growing up, my dad had a particular fondness for Penthouse, which limited my covert adolescent indulgences in porn to only one of many possible avenues. Hence, the Penthouse error. I profoundly apologize if any Playboy supporters are offended.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 23:30:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not old enough to have enjoyed Lenny Bruce when he was alive, but I am aware of his observation regarding the cross as the symbol of Christianity. He said, in essence, if Jesus had been killed today, Catholics would have to wear little electric chairs around their necks. 

To pretend that this symbol has any other meaning in our society beside the Christian connotation is absurd. I&#039;m never surprised by the hypocrisy Christians routinely engage in when rallying to defend their precious delusion. These are, after all, the same people who became apoplectic upon learning that a fucking Teletubbie shared a triangle with the gay rights movement. Sorry, to me it&#039;s just a geometric shape, but I understand how it can be used by a particular group in a symbolic function. As the triangle has other uses, one can claim a certain &quot;universality&quot; of the shape, albeit with a wide gamut of meanings - or no meaning at all.

The same cannot be said of the cross, or the Star of David, or the Penthouse Bunny. Each denotes a specific domain in our culture, and anyone with a brain can see it. Sadly, that&#039;s a party fundies will never be invited to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not old enough to have enjoyed Lenny Bruce when he was alive, but I am aware of his observation regarding the cross as the symbol of Christianity. He said, in essence, if Jesus had been killed today, Catholics would have to wear little electric chairs around their necks. </p>
<p>To pretend that this symbol has any other meaning in our society beside the Christian connotation is absurd. I&#8217;m never surprised by the hypocrisy Christians routinely engage in when rallying to defend their precious delusion. These are, after all, the same people who became apoplectic upon learning that a fucking Teletubbie shared a triangle with the gay rights movement. Sorry, to me it&#8217;s just a geometric shape, but I understand how it can be used by a particular group in a symbolic function. As the triangle has other uses, one can claim a certain &#8220;universality&#8221; of the shape, albeit with a wide gamut of meanings &#8211; or no meaning at all.</p>
<p>The same cannot be said of the cross, or the Star of David, or the Penthouse Bunny. Each denotes a specific domain in our culture, and anyone with a brain can see it. Sadly, that&#8217;s a party fundies will never be invited to.</p>
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