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	<title>Comments on: Catholic League Demands Special Rights</title>
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		<title>by: tree hugging sister</title>
		<link>http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/archives/337/catholic-league-demands-special-rights#comment-11881</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2008 22:18:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>You can't have it both ways ~ look in horrified amazement as the Muslim world goes ape-shit over anything to do with that prophet of theirs (real or imagined) but consider pillorying a drunk sports personality shooting her ill advised mouth off in a social situation.  How many drunk Michiganers/Michigan Staters /almost any team, after having Notre Dame destroy their season have said the exact same thing?  It's the college version of fuck you...AND the horse you rode in on.  

God, whack her knuckles and get over it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can&#8217;t have it both ways ~ look in horrified amazement as the Muslim world goes ape-shit over anything to do with that prophet of theirs (real or imagined) but consider pillorying a drunk sports personality shooting her ill advised mouth off in a social situation.  How many drunk Michiganers/Michigan Staters /almost any team, after having Notre Dame destroy their season have said the exact same thing?  It&#8217;s the college version of fuck you&#8230;AND the horse you rode in on.  </p>
<p>God, whack her knuckles and get over it.
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		<title>by: Parrotlover77</title>
		<link>http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/archives/337/catholic-league-demands-special-rights#comment-11456</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 01:21:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I saw a tribute today before the Super Bowl to the Declaration of Independence and Thomas Jefferson.  This was on Fox (I wonder if Murdoch gets the irony).  I couldn't help but think that Jefferson is rolling over in his grave right now.

Tools like those who STILL support "under God" in the pledge, support a "marriage" amendment, and Donohue himself only further reaffirm my theory of grave rollage.

Tomor - I'm with Ron.  I'm not letting this country become a theocracy.  It's too damn close right now for comfort.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw a tribute today before the Super Bowl to the Declaration of Independence and Thomas Jefferson.  This was on Fox (I wonder if Murdoch gets the irony).  I couldn&#8217;t help but think that Jefferson is rolling over in his grave right now.</p>
<p>Tools like those who STILL support &#8220;under God&#8221; in the pledge, support a &#8220;marriage&#8221; amendment, and Donohue himself only further reaffirm my theory of grave rollage.</p>
<p>Tomor - I&#8217;m with Ron.  I&#8217;m not letting this country become a theocracy.  It&#8217;s too damn close right now for comfort.
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		<title>by: Ron Britton</title>
		<link>http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/archives/337/catholic-league-demands-special-rights#comment-11443</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2008 19:08:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/archives/337/catholic-league-demands-special-rights#comment-11443</guid>
					<description>Tomor:

Nobody said that the speaker is free from response.  Bill Donohue is a stuck-up self-righteous fuckstick who thinks that his religion deserves special protection from criticism.  That is what he is demanding here.

Dialogue has nothing to do with it.  Dana is free to defame and blaspheme any religion she wants to.  Religions get no special treatment in this country.  If you want to live somewhere with blasphemy laws, please move to Iran.  I will not allow people like you to drag the United States back to the Dark Ages.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tomor:</p>
<p>Nobody said that the speaker is free from response.  Bill Donohue is a stuck-up self-righteous fuckstick who thinks that his religion deserves special protection from criticism.  That is what he is demanding here.</p>
<p>Dialogue has nothing to do with it.  Dana is free to defame and blaspheme any religion she wants to.  Religions get no special treatment in this country.  If you want to live somewhere with blasphemy laws, please move to Iran.  I will not allow people like you to drag the United States back to the Dark Ages.
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		<title>by: Tomor</title>
		<link>http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/archives/337/catholic-league-demands-special-rights#comment-11438</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2008 17:52:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>The Constitution gives all Americans the freedom to exercise their religion without interference from the government.  It also conveys to its citizens the right to free speech.  This right protects the speaker from civil penalties in the exercise thereof.

This right to free speech does not mean that the speaker is free from response.  When people blaspheme a religion, that religion has an equal right to respond.  You misunderstand constitutional rights if you believe that a speaker can blast off on anyone or anyone's religion and be exempt from a reply.  Such a protection would mean the responder does not have an equal freedom of expression.

Further, Dana's remarks were not an attempt to engage in a meaningful discussion of religious beliefs or practices, it was a defamation directed at the spiritual leader of Christianity and a Catholic University.  Reports of her coherency support the conclusion that she just blurted out invectives. 

ESPN attempted to sweep it under the rug with the argument that the statements were at a private meeting.  After ESPN got serious about the possibility of offending many of its viewers, ESPN responded with a half baked apology but has yet to apologize for the main insult to the spiritual leader of Christianity.

Given the above, Bill Donohue's response was rather mild compared with the Jacobson blast off but nonetheless effective and appropriate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Constitution gives all Americans the freedom to exercise their religion without interference from the government.  It also conveys to its citizens the right to free speech.  This right protects the speaker from civil penalties in the exercise thereof.</p>
<p>This right to free speech does not mean that the speaker is free from response.  When people blaspheme a religion, that religion has an equal right to respond.  You misunderstand constitutional rights if you believe that a speaker can blast off on anyone or anyone&#8217;s religion and be exempt from a reply.  Such a protection would mean the responder does not have an equal freedom of expression.</p>
<p>Further, Dana&#8217;s remarks were not an attempt to engage in a meaningful discussion of religious beliefs or practices, it was a defamation directed at the spiritual leader of Christianity and a Catholic University.  Reports of her coherency support the conclusion that she just blurted out invectives. </p>
<p>ESPN attempted to sweep it under the rug with the argument that the statements were at a private meeting.  After ESPN got serious about the possibility of offending many of its viewers, ESPN responded with a half baked apology but has yet to apologize for the main insult to the spiritual leader of Christianity.</p>
<p>Given the above, Bill Donohue&#8217;s response was rather mild compared with the Jacobson blast off but nonetheless effective and appropriate.
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		<title>by: JoJo</title>
		<link>http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/archives/337/catholic-league-demands-special-rights#comment-11392</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 22:07:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>From what I can tell, the Catholic League consists of Bill Donohue.  He's a conservative Catholic fundamentalist who makes such statements as "gay death style," "God forbid we'd run out of little gay kids," Senator John Kerry "never found an abortion he couldn't justify," "Hollywood is controlled by secular Jews who hate Christianity in general and Catholicism in particular," … "Hollywood likes anal sex."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From what I can tell, the Catholic League consists of Bill Donohue.  He&#8217;s a conservative Catholic fundamentalist who makes such statements as &#8220;gay death style,&#8221; &#8220;God forbid we&#8217;d run out of little gay kids,&#8221; Senator John Kerry &#8220;never found an abortion he couldn&#8217;t justify,&#8221; &#8220;Hollywood is controlled by secular Jews who hate Christianity in general and Catholicism in particular,&#8221; … &#8220;Hollywood likes anal sex.&#8221;
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		<title>by: Troy</title>
		<link>http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/archives/337/catholic-league-demands-special-rights#comment-11349</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 01:25:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>What a job!  Professional Crybaby.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a job!  Professional Crybaby.
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		<title>by: ParrotLover77</title>
		<link>http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/archives/337/catholic-league-demands-special-rights#comment-11345</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 23:04:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>For some reason, I just can't imagine the Pope caring too much what Bill Maher says.  So why does Donohue and other Catholic fundies?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For some reason, I just can&#8217;t imagine the Pope caring too much what Bill Maher says.  So why does Donohue and other Catholic fundies?
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		<title>by: Nancy Benstead</title>
		<link>http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/archives/337/catholic-league-demands-special-rights#comment-11344</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 22:44:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>You are so right, Jeremy.  I'm so tired of being preached at, but if I try to answer - I'm picking on the Christians. They are NOT the only people in the world with moral standards.

Frankly - I think they are running scared.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are so right, Jeremy.  I&#8217;m so tired of being preached at, but if I try to answer - I&#8217;m picking on the Christians. They are NOT the only people in the world with moral standards.</p>
<p>Frankly - I think they are running scared.
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		<title>by: Jeremy White</title>
		<link>http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/archives/337/catholic-league-demands-special-rights#comment-11339</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 20:41:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Yeah, why the hell are Christians allowed to insult atheists but not the other way around? Last week, I drove by a Christian church that had on its sign: "Atheists are lost fools with nothing to hold up their values."

I wasn't offended, because I think atheists are generally smarter than the average bear. 

What would happen if I created a sign that said, "Christians are ignorant people without the ability to think logically."  People would accuse me of hate speech.

Double standards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, why the hell are Christians allowed to insult atheists but not the other way around? Last week, I drove by a Christian church that had on its sign: &#8220;Atheists are lost fools with nothing to hold up their values.&#8221;</p>
<p>I wasn&#8217;t offended, because I think atheists are generally smarter than the average bear. </p>
<p>What would happen if I created a sign that said, &#8220;Christians are ignorant people without the ability to think logically.&#8221;  People would accuse me of hate speech.</p>
<p>Double standards.
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		<title>by: yoyo</title>
		<link>http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/archives/337/catholic-league-demands-special-rights#comment-11338</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 20:34:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Donohue is one of the nastiest pieces of work to come out of fundie land. As a woman I find most of his speech hate speech. Is he therefore suggesting I should prosecute him?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Donohue is one of the nastiest pieces of work to come out of fundie land. As a woman I find most of his speech hate speech. Is he therefore suggesting I should prosecute him?
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		<title>by: david</title>
		<link>http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/archives/337/catholic-league-demands-special-rights#comment-11337</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 20:23:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>ufos are real</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ufos are real
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