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	<title>Comments on: ARN-wrestling with Facts</title>
	<link>http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/archives/312/arn-wrestling-with-facts</link>
	<description>Keeping the Radical Right at Bay</description>
	<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 23:22:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>by: Derek</title>
		<link>http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/archives/312/arn-wrestling-with-facts#comment-10204</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2008 17:48:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>"Pretty lame. A compelling case fo evolution cannot be made on the basis of just fossils alone."

Depends on whom you're trying to convince.  A compelling case for gravity and germ theory and heliocentrism also couldn't be made to those who simply decide they don't want to accept it.

Anyway, besides fossils testifying to the factuality of evolution, there's also the existence of nested hierarchies, biogeographic distribution of species, genetics, observation of change in action (hello dogs, finches, peppered moths, etc) and more.

"Those who cavalierly reject the Theory of Evolution, as not adequately supported by facts, seem quite to forget that their own theory is supported by no facts at all." -Spencer</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Pretty lame. A compelling case fo evolution cannot be made on the basis of just fossils alone.&#8221;</p>
<p>Depends on whom you&#8217;re trying to convince.  A compelling case for gravity and germ theory and heliocentrism also couldn&#8217;t be made to those who simply decide they don&#8217;t want to accept it.</p>
<p>Anyway, besides fossils testifying to the factuality of evolution, there&#8217;s also the existence of nested hierarchies, biogeographic distribution of species, genetics, observation of change in action (hello dogs, finches, peppered moths, etc) and more.</p>
<p>&#8220;Those who cavalierly reject the Theory of Evolution, as not adequately supported by facts, seem quite to forget that their own theory is supported by no facts at all.&#8221; -Spencer
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		<title>by: Kevin Wirth</title>
		<link>http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/archives/312/arn-wrestling-with-facts#comment-10176</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 19:45:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Jalestra said:

"Accusation upon accusation on where everyone else is wrong, but not one scientifically valid bit of information to back him up…par for the course…It would be so nice if creationists could make an accusation and back it up with something other than “it just is”. "

Funny, that's what I always think whenever I see that silly poster with the fossil that says "Evolution.  We have the fossils.  We win"

Pretty lame.  A compelling case fo evolution cannot be made on the basis of just fossils alone.


Kevin Wirth
ARN</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jalestra said:</p>
<p>&#8220;Accusation upon accusation on where everyone else is wrong, but not one scientifically valid bit of information to back him up…par for the course…It would be so nice if creationists could make an accusation and back it up with something other than “it just is”. &#8221;</p>
<p>Funny, that&#8217;s what I always think whenever I see that silly poster with the fossil that says &#8220;Evolution.  We have the fossils.  We win&#8221;</p>
<p>Pretty lame.  A compelling case fo evolution cannot be made on the basis of just fossils alone.</p>
<p>Kevin Wirth<br />
ARN
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		<title>by: Ron Britton</title>
		<link>http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/archives/312/arn-wrestling-with-facts#comment-10087</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 07:41:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>That's one I hadn't heard.  The creationists' desperation knows no bounds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s one I hadn&#8217;t heard.  The creationists&#8217; desperation knows no bounds.
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		<title>by: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/archives/312/arn-wrestling-with-facts#comment-10080</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 03:41:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>That bit about SETI is the Dembski defense (ie if SETI is valid science, then why is not ID)...
http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CI/CI190.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That bit about SETI is the Dembski defense (ie if SETI is valid science, then why is not ID)&#8230;<br />
<a href="http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CI/CI190.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CI/CI190.html</a>
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		<title>by: joe</title>
		<link>http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/archives/312/arn-wrestling-with-facts#comment-10078</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 02:33:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/archives/312/arn-wrestling-with-facts#comment-10078</guid>
					<description>Hope he responds again, probably won't.</description>
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		<title>by: Jalestra</title>
		<link>http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/archives/312/arn-wrestling-with-facts#comment-10061</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jan 2008 15:04:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/archives/312/arn-wrestling-with-facts#comment-10061</guid>
					<description>Accusation upon accusation on where everyone else is wrong, but not one scientifically valid bit of information to back him up…par for the course…It would be so nice if creationists could make an accusation and back it up with something other than "it just is".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Accusation upon accusation on where everyone else is wrong, but not one scientifically valid bit of information to back him up…par for the course…It would be so nice if creationists could make an accusation and back it up with something other than &#8220;it just is&#8221;.
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