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		<title>By: Jeff Hooton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Hooton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Aug 2010 12:51:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That should be no problem for Kevin, he has a direct line to god that is available to nobody else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That should be no problem for Kevin, he has a direct line to god that is available to nobody else.</p>
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		<title>By: mythras</title>
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		<dc:creator>mythras</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Aug 2010 05:12:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bravo.

&quot;On a public forum... [it was] privileged, private.&quot;  No problem with these adjoining statements, no sir.

However, I&#039;ve sad news to report: Johnnie Cochran has been dead since 2005.  ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bravo.</p>
<p>&#8220;On a public forum&#8230; [it was] privileged, private.&#8221;  No problem with these adjoining statements, no sir.</p>
<p>However, I&#8217;ve sad news to report: Johnnie Cochran has been dead since 2005.  <img src='http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Ron Britton</title>
		<link>http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/archives/2978/kevin-wirth-is-like-a-piece-of-old-farm-equipment/comment-page-1#comment-50706</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron Britton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jul 2010 21:04:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kevin:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Doesn’t matter if my comments were posted on a public forum or on the moon – it was a privileged, private, and COPYRIGHTED communication.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Oh noes!  Look what I just did!  I just reproduced &lt;i&gt;another&lt;/i&gt; one of Kevin&#039;s &quot;copyrighted&quot; communications that was posted on a public forum on the internet!  Somebody get me Johnnie Cochran!  Only the Chewbacca defense can save me now!

&lt;blockquote&gt;If I were you, I’d look a tad bit deeper into the doo doo&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The only &quot;doo doo&quot;, as you so eloquently put it, is Intelligent Design creationism.  I&#039;ve looked into that deeper than I should have.  It looks like you&#039;ve been eating corn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin:</p>
<blockquote><p>Doesn’t matter if my comments were posted on a public forum or on the moon – it was a privileged, private, and COPYRIGHTED communication.</p></blockquote>
<p>Oh noes!  Look what I just did!  I just reproduced <i>another</i> one of Kevin&#8217;s &#8220;copyrighted&#8221; communications that was posted on a public forum on the internet!  Somebody get me Johnnie Cochran!  Only the Chewbacca defense can save me now!</p>
<blockquote><p>If I were you, I’d look a tad bit deeper into the doo doo</p></blockquote>
<p>The only &#8220;doo doo&#8221;, as you so eloquently put it, is Intelligent Design creationism.  I&#8217;ve looked into that deeper than I should have.  It looks like you&#8217;ve been eating corn.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Britton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron Britton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jul 2010 21:03:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;please, oh I am begging, PLEASE hire a lawyer to pursue this.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yes, Kevin.  And when you do, please tell us how much he charged you to tell you you don&#039;t have a case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>please, oh I am begging, PLEASE hire a lawyer to pursue this.</p></blockquote>
<p>Yes, Kevin.  And when you do, please tell us how much he charged you to tell you you don&#8217;t have a case.</p>
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		<title>By: Parrotlover77</title>
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		<dc:creator>Parrotlover77</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jul 2010 19:23:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kevin - Please, do try.  First, IANAL, but I&#039;m pretty sure you can&#039;t copyright a communication thread, such as an email and a reply.  That&#039;s like saying I can copyright my reply to the DMV when they ask me to renew my license.  WTF?  Anyway, even if you can, please, oh I am begging, PLEASE hire a lawyer to pursue this.  Then a lawyer will get paid (stimulating the economy) and you will waste your money on something so trivial.  That would bring a tear of JOY to my eye.  I feel the joy joy joy, joy in my heart!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin &#8211; Please, do try.  First, IANAL, but I&#8217;m pretty sure you can&#8217;t copyright a communication thread, such as an email and a reply.  That&#8217;s like saying I can copyright my reply to the DMV when they ask me to renew my license.  WTF?  Anyway, even if you can, please, oh I am begging, PLEASE hire a lawyer to pursue this.  Then a lawyer will get paid (stimulating the economy) and you will waste your money on something so trivial.  That would bring a tear of JOY to my eye.  I feel the joy joy joy, joy in my heart!</p>
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		<title>By: Syldoran</title>
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		<dc:creator>Syldoran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jul 2010 21:52:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t take seriously anyone who says &quot;doo doo,&quot; particularly when being threatening.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t take seriously anyone who says &#8220;doo doo,&#8221; particularly when being threatening.</p>
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		<title>By: Coty Thomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Coty Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jul 2010 20:06:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Kevin: Are you threatening a lawsuit? And just when I thought people like you couldn&#039;t stoop any lower...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Kevin: Are you threatening a lawsuit? And just when I thought people like you couldn&#8217;t stoop any lower&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Wirth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin Wirth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jul 2010 18:47:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bite yourself.

Doesn&#039;t matter if my comments were posted on a public forum or on the moon - it was a privileged, private, and COPYRIGHTED communication.

If I were you, I&#039;d look a tad bit deeper into the doo doo you are looking to get yourself into by not removing this communication, IMMEDIATELY, excepts or not.

You have been duly notified that this is a copyrighted communication, and so don&#039;t come whining to me (or the magpies who follow your every dribble on this web site) when the hammer comes down.

You&#039;ve been notified. 

Kevin Wirth</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bite yourself.</p>
<p>Doesn&#8217;t matter if my comments were posted on a public forum or on the moon &#8211; it was a privileged, private, and COPYRIGHTED communication.</p>
<p>If I were you, I&#8217;d look a tad bit deeper into the doo doo you are looking to get yourself into by not removing this communication, IMMEDIATELY, excepts or not.</p>
<p>You have been duly notified that this is a copyrighted communication, and so don&#8217;t come whining to me (or the magpies who follow your every dribble on this web site) when the hammer comes down.</p>
<p>You&#8217;ve been notified. </p>
<p>Kevin Wirth</p>
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		<title>By: OtherRob</title>
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		<dc:creator>OtherRob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jul 2010 01:51:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;There are no significant scientific arguments for ID creationism.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

There are no &lt;strike&gt;significant&lt;/strike&gt; scientific arguments for ID creationism.

There I fixed it for you. :)

And all this talk of arms getting ripped out reminds me of a couple of episodes of Arrested Development. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>There are no significant scientific arguments for ID creationism.</p></blockquote>
<p>There are no <strike>significant</strike> scientific arguments for ID creationism.</p>
<p>There I fixed it for you. <img src='http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>And all this talk of arms getting ripped out reminds me of a couple of episodes of Arrested Development. <img src='http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: ericsan</title>
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		<dc:creator>ericsan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jul 2010 21:51:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And I thought the little bitch had been slapped for the last time, but she&#039;s coming back for more abuse. Poor Kevin never fails to amaze me with the staggering depth of his stupidity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And I thought the little bitch had been slapped for the last time, but she&#8217;s coming back for more abuse. Poor Kevin never fails to amaze me with the staggering depth of his stupidity.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jul 2010 15:58:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In fact, now that I think about it - yes, at least some of the Westerners are smug. I can think of one as I type this, who is now the director of the center at which I lived. Smug &lt;i&gt;and&lt;/i&gt; crazy.

This is what it breeds in the West. It&#039;s one of the &lt;i&gt;many&lt;/i&gt; reasons I agree with the Dalai Lama - Westerners, by and large, should &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; become Buddhists. I used to tell the lama&#039;s nephew, a lama in his own right, &quot;When Tibetan people practice Dharma, they become Buddhas. When Western people practice Dharma, they become crazy!&quot; He found that highly amusing. The Tibetans thought I was &quot;funny guy&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In fact, now that I think about it &#8211; yes, at least some of the Westerners are smug. I can think of one as I type this, who is now the director of the center at which I lived. Smug <i>and</i> crazy.</p>
<p>This is what it breeds in the West. It&#8217;s one of the <i>many</i> reasons I agree with the Dalai Lama &#8211; Westerners, by and large, should <i>not</i> become Buddhists. I used to tell the lama&#8217;s nephew, a lama in his own right, &#8220;When Tibetan people practice Dharma, they become Buddhas. When Western people practice Dharma, they become crazy!&#8221; He found that highly amusing. The Tibetans thought I was &#8220;funny guy&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jul 2010 15:49:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;But, yes, I get your point. You are comparing that to the Fundie Christian practice of enjoying the thought of nonbelievers burning in hell.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

PL, a &lt;i&gt;very&lt;/i&gt; important difference - the Tibetans don&#039;t relish the idea. When they talk about compassion, they mean it. The Christians just use the term as a piece of jargon - a way to distinguish between &quot;us&quot; and &quot;them&quot;.

I don&#039;t know if I&#039;ve mentioned this here before, but I have a history with Tibetan Buddhism, culminating in a recent three-year stint as house manager in a Tibetan monastic/teaching center (I think I might still have been there when I found this blog). Yeah, Tibetan clergy can be condescending (I don&#039;t know that I&#039;d use the term &quot;smug&quot;, but I&#039;m sure there are nuances in their speech and body language I&#039;m not getting), and FSM knows they piss me off royally, but I wouldn&#039;t go so far as to say they actually relish the idea of anyone suffering. In fact, they&#039;re genuinely horrified when they learn that Westerners believe God will send people to hell &lt;i&gt;forever&lt;/i&gt;. The elderly lama with whom I lived once told me, &quot;I would ask God, where is his compassion?&quot; (again, he believes God exists, but doesn&#039;t believe he has that kind of power, nor does he believe God would exercise it that way if he did).

Plus, in Buddhism (Mahayana Buddhism, the form to which Tibetan Buddhism belongs), the goal is to become a Bodhisattva, an enlightened being who could become a Buddha and step off of the wheel of birth and death, but who remains in order to work for the liberation of all sentient beings (by which they mean all animate life, not merely humans). As the number of sentient beings (depending upon whom you ask) is believed to be infinite, theoretically, the job never ends.

In Buddhism, the goal is to get everyone else saved. In Christianity, it&#039;s &quot;I&#039;ve got mine, you get yours.&quot; So, yea, in that way, it is preferable. &lt;i&gt;Marginally.&lt;/i&gt;

On the other hand, some of the Westerners probably are smug. There&#039;s a &lt;i&gt;tremendous&lt;/i&gt; amount of fundamentalism among Western followers of Tibetan Buddhism. Just a whole lotta crazy. Seems to be a prerequisite.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>But, yes, I get your point. You are comparing that to the Fundie Christian practice of enjoying the thought of nonbelievers burning in hell.</p></blockquote>
<p>PL, a <i>very</i> important difference &#8211; the Tibetans don&#8217;t relish the idea. When they talk about compassion, they mean it. The Christians just use the term as a piece of jargon &#8211; a way to distinguish between &#8220;us&#8221; and &#8220;them&#8221;.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know if I&#8217;ve mentioned this here before, but I have a history with Tibetan Buddhism, culminating in a recent three-year stint as house manager in a Tibetan monastic/teaching center (I think I might still have been there when I found this blog). Yeah, Tibetan clergy can be condescending (I don&#8217;t know that I&#8217;d use the term &#8220;smug&#8221;, but I&#8217;m sure there are nuances in their speech and body language I&#8217;m not getting), and FSM knows they piss me off royally, but I wouldn&#8217;t go so far as to say they actually relish the idea of anyone suffering. In fact, they&#8217;re genuinely horrified when they learn that Westerners believe God will send people to hell <i>forever</i>. The elderly lama with whom I lived once told me, &#8220;I would ask God, where is his compassion?&#8221; (again, he believes God exists, but doesn&#8217;t believe he has that kind of power, nor does he believe God would exercise it that way if he did).</p>
<p>Plus, in Buddhism (Mahayana Buddhism, the form to which Tibetan Buddhism belongs), the goal is to become a Bodhisattva, an enlightened being who could become a Buddha and step off of the wheel of birth and death, but who remains in order to work for the liberation of all sentient beings (by which they mean all animate life, not merely humans). As the number of sentient beings (depending upon whom you ask) is believed to be infinite, theoretically, the job never ends.</p>
<p>In Buddhism, the goal is to get everyone else saved. In Christianity, it&#8217;s &#8220;I&#8217;ve got mine, you get yours.&#8221; So, yea, in that way, it is preferable. <i>Marginally.</i></p>
<p>On the other hand, some of the Westerners probably are smug. There&#8217;s a <i>tremendous</i> amount of fundamentalism among Western followers of Tibetan Buddhism. Just a whole lotta crazy. Seems to be a prerequisite.</p>
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