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	<title>Comments on: Rhymes with Sewage, Part 5: 2010</title>
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		<title>By: alex a</title>
		<link>http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/archives/2880/rhymes-with-sewage-part-5-2010/comment-page-1#comment-50399</link>
		<dc:creator>alex a</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jun 2010 13:35:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I guess the public has gotten wise enough to not fall for snake oil when you call it snake oil.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Ah, come on. That would be &lt;em&gt;organic&lt;/em&gt; snake oil!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I guess the public has gotten wise enough to not fall for snake oil when you call it snake oil.</p></blockquote>
<p>Ah, come on. That would be <em>organic</em> snake oil!</p>
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		<title>By: Parrotlover77</title>
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		<dc:creator>Parrotlover77</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jun 2010 23:11:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lindsay FTMFW!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lindsay FTMFW!</p>
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		<title>By: Lindsay</title>
		<link>http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/archives/2880/rhymes-with-sewage-part-5-2010/comment-page-1#comment-50392</link>
		<dc:creator>Lindsay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jun 2010 20:57:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If it were me and I was confronted with grafitti that said &quot;Fear God&quot; I would tack &quot;zilla&quot; on the end for &quot;Fear Godzilla.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it were me and I was confronted with grafitti that said &#8220;Fear God&#8221; I would tack &#8220;zilla&#8221; on the end for &#8220;Fear Godzilla.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Parrotlover77</title>
		<link>http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/archives/2880/rhymes-with-sewage-part-5-2010/comment-page-1#comment-50387</link>
		<dc:creator>Parrotlover77</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jun 2010 12:53:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isn&#039;t this what that Men Who Stare At Goats movie was about?  I haven&#039;t seen that movie yet, so I&#039;m not sure.

You know, it&#039;s fun to make fun of now, but actually studying the paranormal in a rigorous scientific fassion is not a waste of money.  Well, now it is, but before it had been, it wasn&#039;t.  After all, many centuries of accounts of paranormal need to be tested at least a few times.  If it&#039;s real, it would be a fundamentally new way of looking at the universe in one of those &quot;holy crap we&#039;ve had it all wrong&quot; ways that shake up the scientific world from time to time.  And if not, well, at least you have evidence that the BS is actually BS.

In the cold war, it was definitely a worthwhile long shot.  A true psychic or remote viewer would obsolete many field agents and save many lives (on your side anyway).  

But, as we all know here, it&#039;s all crap so now we laugh about it.  Good times.  

Just as long as no MORE tax dollars are spent on this garbage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t this what that Men Who Stare At Goats movie was about?  I haven&#8217;t seen that movie yet, so I&#8217;m not sure.</p>
<p>You know, it&#8217;s fun to make fun of now, but actually studying the paranormal in a rigorous scientific fassion is not a waste of money.  Well, now it is, but before it had been, it wasn&#8217;t.  After all, many centuries of accounts of paranormal need to be tested at least a few times.  If it&#8217;s real, it would be a fundamentally new way of looking at the universe in one of those &#8220;holy crap we&#8217;ve had it all wrong&#8221; ways that shake up the scientific world from time to time.  And if not, well, at least you have evidence that the BS is actually BS.</p>
<p>In the cold war, it was definitely a worthwhile long shot.  A true psychic or remote viewer would obsolete many field agents and save many lives (on your side anyway).  </p>
<p>But, as we all know here, it&#8217;s all crap so now we laugh about it.  Good times.  </p>
<p>Just as long as no MORE tax dollars are spent on this garbage.</p>
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		<title>By: Ahmed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ahmed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jun 2010 17:29:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Joker
Bad example: that was the Iraqi police force bought those. A better example would be the gay bomb.

@Another Steve
Thanks for the info. Although I know about double blind studies. Pretty much the only way to test the effects of something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Joker<br />
Bad example: that was the Iraqi police force bought those. A better example would be the gay bomb.</p>
<p>@Another Steve<br />
Thanks for the info. Although I know about double blind studies. Pretty much the only way to test the effects of something.</p>
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		<title>By: Another Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Another Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jun 2010 04:08:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ahmed,

I saw The Great Randy visit the Russian facility where the &quot;positive results&quot; had been achieved. It turns out that the guys doing the experiments had used exactly zero scientific rigger.

One of the techniques used was that an experiment was set up to test for result X. Once the data was collected, the analysis revealed that in fact result X had been observed. Never once did they use a double blind study, or any real statistics to actually test the test.

During the cold war, all of this worked because they had pulled the wool over the eyes of some rather gullible generals and/or party officials. The testing was classified, and no one ever exposed the fraud. Under the Soviet/Communist system once you had the patronage of a higher up, no one could touch you for fear of making the patron mad. 

Subsequent with Randy supervising the test, re-running of the experiment revealed shockingly...nothing. Researchers were unable to detect any psychic effects within the confines of a double blind study.

Cheers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahmed,</p>
<p>I saw The Great Randy visit the Russian facility where the &#8220;positive results&#8221; had been achieved. It turns out that the guys doing the experiments had used exactly zero scientific rigger.</p>
<p>One of the techniques used was that an experiment was set up to test for result X. Once the data was collected, the analysis revealed that in fact result X had been observed. Never once did they use a double blind study, or any real statistics to actually test the test.</p>
<p>During the cold war, all of this worked because they had pulled the wool over the eyes of some rather gullible generals and/or party officials. The testing was classified, and no one ever exposed the fraud. Under the Soviet/Communist system once you had the patronage of a higher up, no one could touch you for fear of making the patron mad. </p>
<p>Subsequent with Randy supervising the test, re-running of the experiment revealed shockingly&#8230;nothing. Researchers were unable to detect any psychic effects within the confines of a double blind study.</p>
<p>Cheers</p>
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		<title>By: Joker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jun 2010 03:49:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ahmed, look at it like this, I would rather they fight with things that don&#039;t cause any real harm if the alternative is nukes and such. Back then they threw money at anything that might win the war, the same sort of thing is going on now too. I remember reading a few years ago that they were using dowsers in Iraq to look for IEDs</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahmed, look at it like this, I would rather they fight with things that don&#8217;t cause any real harm if the alternative is nukes and such. Back then they threw money at anything that might win the war, the same sort of thing is going on now too. I remember reading a few years ago that they were using dowsers in Iraq to look for IEDs</p>
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		<title>By: Ahmed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ahmed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jun 2010 01:23:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The US thought the Russians had positive results for that during the cold war, and both employed psychics to wage a sort of telekinetic war.

Your tax dollars at work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The US thought the Russians had positive results for that during the cold war, and both employed psychics to wage a sort of telekinetic war.</p>
<p>Your tax dollars at work.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Eyges</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Eyges</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jun 2010 18:07:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought the Russians also, supposedly, had some positive results in paranormal research.

Of course, this all falls under the heading of &quot;stuff I heard&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought the Russians also, supposedly, had some positive results in paranormal research.</p>
<p>Of course, this all falls under the heading of &#8220;stuff I heard&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: J. A. Baker</title>
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		<dc:creator>J. A. Baker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jun 2010 16:19:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;My advice to them is to stay away from the lady with the Barbie wand. They might say something inappropriate.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You mean like how the Barbie wand has a better use as a sex toy?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>My advice to them is to stay away from the lady with the Barbie wand. They might say something inappropriate.</p></blockquote>
<p>You mean like how the Barbie wand has a better use as a sex toy?</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Britton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron Britton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jun 2010 16:15:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff:

&lt;blockquote&gt;I thought I heard some encouraging results came out of the research at Duke, once upon a time?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

If you heard it in the mainstream media, you almost certainly heard wrong.  Mainstream media almost universally get scientific reporting wrong.

Back in the 90s, I did read a report about a telepathy experiment that showed a positive result.  It was never replicated.

The way that happens is the way statistics works.  They usually use a 95% confidence level, which means one time out of every 20, they will get a false-positive.  I&#039;m guessing that is what happened in that case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff:</p>
<blockquote><p>I thought I heard some encouraging results came out of the research at Duke, once upon a time?</p></blockquote>
<p>If you heard it in the mainstream media, you almost certainly heard wrong.  Mainstream media almost universally get scientific reporting wrong.</p>
<p>Back in the 90s, I did read a report about a telepathy experiment that showed a positive result.  It was never replicated.</p>
<p>The way that happens is the way statistics works.  They usually use a 95% confidence level, which means one time out of every 20, they will get a false-positive.  I&#8217;m guessing that is what happened in that case.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Eyges</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Eyges</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jun 2010 15:53:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve said it here before - they&#039;re fundamentalists. They&#039;re as badly wounded, as rigidly married to their beliefs, and anyone who offers them contradictory evidence has to be gotten rid of as soon as possible. In fact, most of them, in my experience, are refugees from repressive forms of Christianity. And, of course, it&#039;s largely about money. About the only charitable thing that can be said of them is that they don&#039;t think we&#039;re all going to hell.

&lt;blockquote&gt;The telepathy thing is unlikely to work, since there is still no credible evidence that such a phenomenon exists.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I thought I heard some encouraging results came out of the research at Duke, once upon a time?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve said it here before &#8211; they&#8217;re fundamentalists. They&#8217;re as badly wounded, as rigidly married to their beliefs, and anyone who offers them contradictory evidence has to be gotten rid of as soon as possible. In fact, most of them, in my experience, are refugees from repressive forms of Christianity. And, of course, it&#8217;s largely about money. About the only charitable thing that can be said of them is that they don&#8217;t think we&#8217;re all going to hell.</p>
<blockquote><p>The telepathy thing is unlikely to work, since there is still no credible evidence that such a phenomenon exists.</p></blockquote>
<p>I thought I heard some encouraging results came out of the research at Duke, once upon a time?</p>
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