Comments on: Carnival of the Godless and Politicians of the Godful http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/archives/276/carnival-of-the-godless-and-politicians-of-the-godful Keeping the Radical Right at Bay Wed, 07 Jan 2009 13:50:23 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.5 By: Ron Britton http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/archives/276/carnival-of-the-godless-and-politicians-of-the-godful#comment-8114 Ron Britton Wed, 14 Nov 2007 06:05:41 +0000 http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/archives/276/carnival-of-the-godless-and-politicians-of-the-godful#comment-8114 ParrotLover: Yes, I agree that the “Optimist” article was excellent. Your point about how freeing yourself from a God delusion allows your imagination to explode with possibilities is well put. I find it amazing, when talking to fundies, just how confined and restricted their worldview is. Their scientific knowledge is small. Their sense of what is possible is tiny. Their ambition is nil. And they're holding us all back. ParrotLover:

Yes, I agree that the “Optimist” article was excellent. Your point about how freeing yourself from a God delusion allows your imagination to explode with possibilities is well put. I find it amazing, when talking to fundies, just how confined and restricted their worldview is. Their scientific knowledge is small. Their sense of what is possible is tiny. Their ambition is nil.

And they’re holding us all back.

]]> By: ParrotLover77 http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/archives/276/carnival-of-the-godless-and-politicians-of-the-godful#comment-8083 ParrotLover77 Tue, 13 Nov 2007 18:01:29 +0000 http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/archives/276/carnival-of-the-godless-and-politicians-of-the-godful#comment-8083 The "Optimist" article was wonderful. The bit he touched on about "the universe understanding itself" is one of the most liberating aspects of not being tied down by dogma. Imagine what humanity could and would accomplish if we weren't always fighting religious wars and destroying our home planet! One thing I always wondered is, if humanity survives another, say, million years, what affect on the very universe itself would there be? Think about it. If we colonize planets and then colonize planets around other stars, the amount of matter that is "alive" will grow exponentially (in humanity and animals we bring with us to the stars). If after a million years there are trillions of trillions of humans in all different parts of the galaxy, what about a million years after that? What about a billion years? Will we eventually span across trillions of lightyears? Will our very matter be able to affect the end of the universe itself? Will there become a time when we are literally everywhere? This sort of mental exercise on exponential growth and huge amounts of time leads to all kinds of interesting questions on what we are, what the universe is, what will ultimately happen to the universe as long as our technology and intelligence continues to grow with our population and planets populated. But if you are stuck on only wondering when the second coming is going to happen, those questions would never enter your mind because the universe will obviously end before humanity can accomplish anything as fantastic as controlling the very fate of the universe itself... in essense, becoming "gods" ourselves. The “Optimist” article was wonderful. The bit he touched on about “the universe understanding itself” is one of the most liberating aspects of not being tied down by dogma. Imagine what humanity could and would accomplish if we weren’t always fighting religious wars and destroying our home planet!

One thing I always wondered is, if humanity survives another, say, million years, what affect on the very universe itself would there be? Think about it. If we colonize planets and then colonize planets around other stars, the amount of matter that is “alive” will grow exponentially (in humanity and animals we bring with us to the stars). If after a million years there are trillions of trillions of humans in all different parts of the galaxy, what about a million years after that? What about a billion years? Will we eventually span across trillions of lightyears? Will our very matter be able to affect the end of the universe itself? Will there become a time when we are literally everywhere? This sort of mental exercise on exponential growth and huge amounts of time leads to all kinds of interesting questions on what we are, what the universe is, what will ultimately happen to the universe as long as our technology and intelligence continues to grow with our population and planets populated.

But if you are stuck on only wondering when the second coming is going to happen, those questions would never enter your mind because the universe will obviously end before humanity can accomplish anything as fantastic as controlling the very fate of the universe itself… in essense, becoming “gods” ourselves.

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