Carnival of the Godless and Politicians of the Godful

Carnival of the Godless

Carnival of the Godless #79 is now up over at Aardvarchaeology. I’ve read all the articles, and two of them especially stand out.

Go check out “Why I Am an Optimist” by Franklin.

The second article of high interest is “Blind Trust for Religious Belief” by Stefan Monsaureus at Polypyloctomy. He talks about the problem of politicians trying to suck up to the superstitious. He also has his Guidelines for the Secular Voter. Here’s the abbreviated version:

  • Absent a compelling and reasonable proposition of public harm, politicians should not be permitted to impose their morality in situations where the supposed “sin” is without victim.
  • Asking a candidate about their religious affiliation is fair game, provided such questions are couched in terms related to specific policy decisions.
  • While opinions colored by a religious framework are to be expected, and even tolerated, decisions based only on faith are anathema to rationality.
  • Belief in an afterlife is detrimental to life on this planet. Similarly, apocalyptic theology and long-term environmental concern or enlightened foreign policy are incompatible.
  • It may be best not to get too exercised about expressions of civil religion, and reserve our ire and leftist indignation for more substantive cases involving the imposition of faith or dogma.
  • No morality based solely on ancient scripture or religious dogma may be imposed on others.

Go on over to Polypyloctomy and read about those in greater depth. Then head on over to the Carnival of the Godless #79 and check out some of the other great articles.

2 Responses to “Carnival of the Godless and Politicians of the Godful”

  1. ParrotLover77 Says:

    The “Optimist” article was wonderful. The bit he touched on about “the universe understanding itself” is one of the most liberating aspects of not being tied down by dogma. Imagine what humanity could and would accomplish if we weren’t always fighting religious wars and destroying our home planet!

    One thing I always wondered is, if humanity survives another, say, million years, what affect on the very universe itself would there be? Think about it. If we colonize planets and then colonize planets around other stars, the amount of matter that is “alive” will grow exponentially (in humanity and animals we bring with us to the stars). If after a million years there are trillions of trillions of humans in all different parts of the galaxy, what about a million years after that? What about a billion years? Will we eventually span across trillions of lightyears? Will our very matter be able to affect the end of the universe itself? Will there become a time when we are literally everywhere? This sort of mental exercise on exponential growth and huge amounts of time leads to all kinds of interesting questions on what we are, what the universe is, what will ultimately happen to the universe as long as our technology and intelligence continues to grow with our population and planets populated.

    But if you are stuck on only wondering when the second coming is going to happen, those questions would never enter your mind because the universe will obviously end before humanity can accomplish anything as fantastic as controlling the very fate of the universe itself… in essense, becoming “gods” ourselves.

  2. Ron Britton Says:


    Yes, I agree that the “Optimist” article was excellent. Your point about how freeing yourself from a God delusion allows your imagination to explode with possibilities is well put. I find it amazing, when talking to fundies, just how confined and restricted their worldview is. Their scientific knowledge is small. Their sense of what is possible is tiny. Their ambition is nil.

    And they’re holding us all back.