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		<title>By: CrazyMuffinMan</title>
		<link>http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/archives/220/ptc-offended-by-freedom-of-speech/comment-page-1#comment-5793</link>
		<dc:creator>CrazyMuffinMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 12:44:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@James Fellrath: You&#039;re dead on. Why should we rely 100% on any one form of entertainment? 

Also, the PTC would be a great parody if it wasn&#039;t the genuine article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@James Fellrath: You&#8217;re dead on. Why should we rely 100% on any one form of entertainment? </p>
<p>Also, the PTC would be a great parody if it wasn&#8217;t the genuine article.</p>
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		<title>By: ausyoyo</title>
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		<dc:creator>ausyoyo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 00:36:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These guys remind me of a certain senator, I think they are overdoing the &quot;outrage&quot; somewhat. Perhaps they should be reading to their children from the christian spanking manuals. Dont start me on Mel&#039;s awful Passion movie, you could also add the hideous piece of crap that he did in south america. I think they would call that a documentry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These guys remind me of a certain senator, I think they are overdoing the &#8220;outrage&#8221; somewhat. Perhaps they should be reading to their children from the christian spanking manuals. Dont start me on Mel&#8217;s awful Passion movie, you could also add the hideous piece of crap that he did in south america. I think they would call that a documentry.</p>
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		<title>By: Jr.</title>
		<link>http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/archives/220/ptc-offended-by-freedom-of-speech/comment-page-1#comment-5423</link>
		<dc:creator>Jr.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Sep 2007 19:47:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>.... or instead of dumping their children in front of a TV every day while they go out and picket, they could read a book together. How about that! Teaching your kids that electronic isn&#039;t the only kind of entertainment. It&#039;s depressing how many kids hate reading.

I think the reason kid&#039;s movies often have some PG material thrown in is to make it bearable for adults sitting in the audience with their kids, not to grind their media axes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;. or instead of dumping their children in front of a TV every day while they go out and picket, they could read a book together. How about that! Teaching your kids that electronic isn&#8217;t the only kind of entertainment. It&#8217;s depressing how many kids hate reading.</p>
<p>I think the reason kid&#8217;s movies often have some PG material thrown in is to make it bearable for adults sitting in the audience with their kids, not to grind their media axes.</p>
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		<title>By: MichaelS</title>
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		<dc:creator>MichaelS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2007 20:06:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, I don&#039;t think it hurts anyone, but I know it makes some people uncomfortable.  I just don&#039;t see the need for that kind of thing, when you could have had the same movie, with the same story, that&#039;s just as enjoyable, without having that awkward moment of uncomfortable for certain people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, I don&#8217;t think it hurts anyone, but I know it makes some people uncomfortable.  I just don&#8217;t see the need for that kind of thing, when you could have had the same movie, with the same story, that&#8217;s just as enjoyable, without having that awkward moment of uncomfortable for certain people.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Britton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron Britton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2007 17:11:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MichaelS:

I&#039;ve noticed that trend of putting in one or two &quot;mature&quot; comments into an otherwise benign movie.  I&#039;m pretty sure they do that to get the PG rating.  Being rated G is the kiss of death (I don&#039;t know why; I never look at the ratings when I decide what to see.), so they deliberately throw in something to kick it up to a PG.  I don&#039;t think one &quot;damn&quot; or &quot;meat&quot; reference is going to hurt anyone, but it is unnecessary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MichaelS:</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve noticed that trend of putting in one or two &#8220;mature&#8221; comments into an otherwise benign movie.  I&#8217;m pretty sure they do that to get the PG rating.  Being rated G is the kiss of death (I don&#8217;t know why; I never look at the ratings when I decide what to see.), so they deliberately throw in something to kick it up to a PG.  I don&#8217;t think one &#8220;damn&#8221; or &#8220;meat&#8221; reference is going to hurt anyone, but it is unnecessary.</p>
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		<title>By: MichaelS</title>
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		<dc:creator>MichaelS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2007 16:08:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Family &quot;hour&quot; for us was whenever you woke up on Saturday until whenever breakfast was ready, and we solved the innappropriate language, etc. by watching kids&#039; channels.

I have been rather annoyed by some things in certain kids&#039; movies (particularly of Disney origin) that really shouldn&#039;t be there, but I don&#039;t think that&#039;s a recent addition.  An example is the new &quot;That Darn Cat&quot; (&#039;99 or so), in which there&#039;s a scene where the guy is trying to lure the cat with a piece of meat.  At one point he says something about his meat over a radio--something any juvenile would immediately catch onto, but is completely harmless taken in context.  Not really a problem, but I would have re-worded the script anyway.  Then, the other guy says something to the effect of &quot;you shouldn&#039;t talk like that with kids present!&quot; (the girl was with him).  That line was completely unnecessary, wasn&#039;t funny (well, ok, it *is* a dumb movie), and points out that Disney intentionally put the part about &quot;meat&quot; in there as a specific sexual innuendo; something I don&#039;t think belongs in a kids&#039; movie.  To be fair it&#039;s rated PG, but the movie is very obviously supposed to be a family movie.

Movies such as Shrek are &quot;family&quot; movies, but make no pretenses about their target of older kids and adults, and watching the previews should let any parent know they might want to review it before letting youngsters watch it.  Plus, the movie is filled with that stuff; putting a single lewd comment in an otherwise benign movie is just dumb.  Like The Black Stallion (I think number 2--been a long time since I&#039;ve seen those), where they don&#039;t use any kind of &quot;offensive&quot; language, then say &quot;damn&quot; right at the end.  Really, even though the PG rating did reflect this, it&#039;s unnecessary and offensive to some people, and again it&#039;s a kids&#039; movie.

But obviously that has nothing to do with whether there is offensive content available on the TV during &quot;family hour&quot;.  I don&#039;t mind if they want to clean up certain kids&#039; channels to make them more kid-friendly, but if I were a TV watcher, I would be pissed if I couldn&#039;t find anything but kids&#039; shows on any channel for an hour every night.  Since I&#039;m not a TV watcher, I wouldn&#039;t mind the ban of MTV every night; that would give me a chance to play the XBOX once in a while.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Family &#8220;hour&#8221; for us was whenever you woke up on Saturday until whenever breakfast was ready, and we solved the innappropriate language, etc. by watching kids&#8217; channels.</p>
<p>I have been rather annoyed by some things in certain kids&#8217; movies (particularly of Disney origin) that really shouldn&#8217;t be there, but I don&#8217;t think that&#8217;s a recent addition.  An example is the new &#8220;That Darn Cat&#8221; (&#8216;99 or so), in which there&#8217;s a scene where the guy is trying to lure the cat with a piece of meat.  At one point he says something about his meat over a radio&#8211;something any juvenile would immediately catch onto, but is completely harmless taken in context.  Not really a problem, but I would have re-worded the script anyway.  Then, the other guy says something to the effect of &#8220;you shouldn&#8217;t talk like that with kids present!&#8221; (the girl was with him).  That line was completely unnecessary, wasn&#8217;t funny (well, ok, it *is* a dumb movie), and points out that Disney intentionally put the part about &#8220;meat&#8221; in there as a specific sexual innuendo; something I don&#8217;t think belongs in a kids&#8217; movie.  To be fair it&#8217;s rated PG, but the movie is very obviously supposed to be a family movie.</p>
<p>Movies such as Shrek are &#8220;family&#8221; movies, but make no pretenses about their target of older kids and adults, and watching the previews should let any parent know they might want to review it before letting youngsters watch it.  Plus, the movie is filled with that stuff; putting a single lewd comment in an otherwise benign movie is just dumb.  Like The Black Stallion (I think number 2&#8211;been a long time since I&#8217;ve seen those), where they don&#8217;t use any kind of &#8220;offensive&#8221; language, then say &#8220;damn&#8221; right at the end.  Really, even though the PG rating did reflect this, it&#8217;s unnecessary and offensive to some people, and again it&#8217;s a kids&#8217; movie.</p>
<p>But obviously that has nothing to do with whether there is offensive content available on the TV during &#8220;family hour&#8221;.  I don&#8217;t mind if they want to clean up certain kids&#8217; channels to make them more kid-friendly, but if I were a TV watcher, I would be pissed if I couldn&#8217;t find anything but kids&#8217; shows on any channel for an hour every night.  Since I&#8217;m not a TV watcher, I wouldn&#8217;t mind the ban of MTV every night; that would give me a chance to play the XBOX once in a while.  <img src='http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: ericsan</title>
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		<dc:creator>ericsan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2007 15:54:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These are the same dolts who took their children several times to see Mel Gibson&#039;s ultra-gory &quot;passion of the crap&quot;. I guess there is a special dispensation for Jesus-based violence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These are the same dolts who took their children several times to see Mel Gibson&#8217;s ultra-gory &#8220;passion of the crap&#8221;. I guess there is a special dispensation for Jesus-based violence.</p>
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		<title>By: James Fellrath</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Fellrath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2007 11:32:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s really pathetic is something that you touched on briefly - they&#039;re apparently counting on TV to be their only form of entertainment.  I wonder how many of these parents had their kids sitting next to them while they counted every single time someone scratched themselves inappropriately or whatever.  

There are plenty of other much more healthy and beneficial ways to get your entertainment.  Why does it have to be TV?  If you don&#039;t like, don&#039;t watch!  It&#039;s that simple!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s really pathetic is something that you touched on briefly &#8211; they&#8217;re apparently counting on TV to be their only form of entertainment.  I wonder how many of these parents had their kids sitting next to them while they counted every single time someone scratched themselves inappropriately or whatever.  </p>
<p>There are plenty of other much more healthy and beneficial ways to get your entertainment.  Why does it have to be TV?  If you don&#8217;t like, don&#8217;t watch!  It&#8217;s that simple!</p>
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