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		<title>By: Ron Britton</title>
		<link>http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/archives/208/molecular-evolution-proven/comment-page-1#comment-53130</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron Britton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2011 09:12:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Travis:

It&#039;s counterproductive to just wave your hands and say &quot;He&#039;s a creationist, so he must be wrong.&quot;  A lot of people out there don&#039;t know enough about either side to have an informed opinion.  For their benefit, it is worthwhile taking creationist claims at face value and examining them to see that they have no validity.

The thing about Behe, is he isn&#039;t a crank like Ken Ham (who thinks &lt;i&gt;T. rex&lt;/i&gt; ate coconuts before Adam and Eve got kicked out of the Garden of Eden) or Ray Comfort (who thinks that crocoducks must exist for evolution to be true).

Behe believes evolution accounts for much of natural history.  He just thinks God sticks his magic finger in us every now and then.  That&#039;s a comforting fiction for a lot of people.  It gives them a story they can tell themselves to quiet the cognitive dissonance they get from knowing that evolution is true but wanting God to be true as well.  That&#039;s why it&#039;s worth the time to rationally deconstruct his claims.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Travis:</p>
<p>It&#8217;s counterproductive to just wave your hands and say &#8220;He&#8217;s a creationist, so he must be wrong.&#8221;  A lot of people out there don&#8217;t know enough about either side to have an informed opinion.  For their benefit, it is worthwhile taking creationist claims at face value and examining them to see that they have no validity.</p>
<p>The thing about Behe, is he isn&#8217;t a crank like Ken Ham (who thinks <i>T. rex</i> ate coconuts before Adam and Eve got kicked out of the Garden of Eden) or Ray Comfort (who thinks that crocoducks must exist for evolution to be true).</p>
<p>Behe believes evolution accounts for much of natural history.  He just thinks God sticks his magic finger in us every now and then.  That&#8217;s a comforting fiction for a lot of people.  It gives them a story they can tell themselves to quiet the cognitive dissonance they get from knowing that evolution is true but wanting God to be true as well.  That&#8217;s why it&#8217;s worth the time to rationally deconstruct his claims.</p>
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		<title>By: Travis Webster</title>
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		<dc:creator>Travis Webster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2011 00:10:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are one of the FIRST evolutionists to give Behe any credibility. Nobody who believes in evolution that has half a brain even considers Behe&#039;s argument as good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are one of the FIRST evolutionists to give Behe any credibility. Nobody who believes in evolution that has half a brain even considers Behe&#8217;s argument as good.</p>
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		<title>By: Parrotlover77</title>
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		<dc:creator>Parrotlover77</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 13:40:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not exactly sure how Kent J thinks that &quot;Magic Man Did It Using His Magic Hands&quot; is more reasonable or &lt;em&gt;less complex&lt;/em&gt; of an undertaking than &quot;gradual change over a very, very long period of time did it.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not exactly sure how Kent J thinks that &#8220;Magic Man Did It Using His Magic Hands&#8221; is more reasonable or <em>less complex</em> of an undertaking than &#8220;gradual change over a very, very long period of time did it.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 23:30:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think I&#039;ll rely on professional scientists to inform me about the validity of evolution rather than an uninformed dolt who obviously could not obtain a passing grade in high school English. Thanks just the same, Kent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I&#8217;ll rely on professional scientists to inform me about the validity of evolution rather than an uninformed dolt who obviously could not obtain a passing grade in high school English. Thanks just the same, Kent.</p>
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		<title>By: Kent J</title>
		<link>http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/archives/208/molecular-evolution-proven/comment-page-1#comment-37846</link>
		<dc:creator>Kent J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 19:55:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it is reasonable to say that the understanding we have of the complexities of life on this planet leave room for people to say &quot; it is REASONABLE to suggest DNA was designed&quot;

Get my point? The clock maker argument has become 100 times, if not a 1000 times more reasonable since it was first asked.

I have never met an atheist/evolutionist who was at least reasonable enough to agree that they are asking an aweful lot from me to simply nod my head that EVERYTHING just happened. You may hate behe.. but please... the systems in the human body, if described thoroughly, out loud, to a group of people forced to listen to it.. would leave them dying of old age but i would think ENRAPTURED in the HUGE COMPLEXITY OF THE  SYSTEMS WALKING THIS PLANET. And any scientist worth anything better admit that they two are occasionally found SLACK jawed when the enormity of it hits them.

It is like a tornado blowing through the universe and creating fREAKING EVERYTHING.... you are out of your minds... my goodness.. you evolutoinsists are wack jobs.. and you manage to pull of making us.... doubters (i am a doubter in evolution.. not a BELIEVER in something else..fyi) sound crazy.

yeah.. i am crazy.. but i am right.

screw you evolutionists unreasonable fcks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it is reasonable to say that the understanding we have of the complexities of life on this planet leave room for people to say &#8221; it is REASONABLE to suggest DNA was designed&#8221;</p>
<p>Get my point? The clock maker argument has become 100 times, if not a 1000 times more reasonable since it was first asked.</p>
<p>I have never met an atheist/evolutionist who was at least reasonable enough to agree that they are asking an aweful lot from me to simply nod my head that EVERYTHING just happened. You may hate behe.. but please&#8230; the systems in the human body, if described thoroughly, out loud, to a group of people forced to listen to it.. would leave them dying of old age but i would think ENRAPTURED in the HUGE COMPLEXITY OF THE  SYSTEMS WALKING THIS PLANET. And any scientist worth anything better admit that they two are occasionally found SLACK jawed when the enormity of it hits them.</p>
<p>It is like a tornado blowing through the universe and creating fREAKING EVERYTHING&#8230;. you are out of your minds&#8230; my goodness.. you evolutoinsists are wack jobs.. and you manage to pull of making us&#8230;. doubters (i am a doubter in evolution.. not a BELIEVER in something else..fyi) sound crazy.</p>
<p>yeah.. i am crazy.. but i am right.</p>
<p>screw you evolutionists unreasonable fcks.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Wright</title>
		<link>http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/archives/208/molecular-evolution-proven/comment-page-1#comment-12931</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Wright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 17:00:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When will people learn that just because they don&#039;t understand something doesn&#039;t make it complex. Similar to how one isn&#039;t an artist just because they are misunderstood.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When will people learn that just because they don&#8217;t understand something doesn&#8217;t make it complex. Similar to how one isn&#8217;t an artist just because they are misunderstood.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Britton</title>
		<link>http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/archives/208/molecular-evolution-proven/comment-page-1#comment-5104</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron Britton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 16:01:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But we must still pass laws to prevent them from getting married!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But we must still pass laws to prevent them from getting married!</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Hebert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Hebert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 14:04:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clearly he meant single-celled viruses to mean UNMARRIED viruses. That&#039;s why they&#039;re so dangerous, they&#039;re constantly cruising the immune system looking to get laid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clearly he meant single-celled viruses to mean UNMARRIED viruses. That&#8217;s why they&#8217;re so dangerous, they&#8217;re constantly cruising the immune system looking to get laid.</p>
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		<title>By: Senator Craig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Senator Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 15:08:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Laugh all you want, but no matter what you do, watch out for the multi-celled viruses ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Laugh all you want, but no matter what you do, watch out for the multi-celled viruses <img src='http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Genesius</title>
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		<dc:creator>Genesius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 14:05:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Genesius, your critique is totally uncalled for. In the context of Edward Kerr’s post, single cell viruses are obviously meant to be understood as the opposite of multiple-cell viruses, which are bigger.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

:-)

Must be tough to type with your tongue that deep in your cheek. . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Genesius, your critique is totally uncalled for. In the context of Edward Kerr’s post, single cell viruses are obviously meant to be understood as the opposite of multiple-cell viruses, which are bigger.</p></blockquote>
<p> <img src='http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Must be tough to type with your tongue that deep in your cheek. . .</p>
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		<title>By: Jr.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jr.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 10:15:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey.

This is on another topic entirely, but it&#039;s sort of worth noting, if you need a quick fundie outrage minute. They changed the Texas Pledge from &quot;I pledge allegiance to thee, Texas, one and indivisible&quot; to &quot;I pledge allegiance to thee, Texas, one state under God, one and indivisible.&quot;

No word yet on why, but it certainly lost its ring.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey.</p>
<p>This is on another topic entirely, but it&#8217;s sort of worth noting, if you need a quick fundie outrage minute. They changed the Texas Pledge from &#8220;I pledge allegiance to thee, Texas, one and indivisible&#8221; to &#8220;I pledge allegiance to thee, Texas, one state under God, one and indivisible.&#8221;</p>
<p>No word yet on why, but it certainly lost its ring.</p>
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		<title>By: EricSan</title>
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		<dc:creator>EricSan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 04:04:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Wikipedia article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irreducible_complexity is a good read. I find it absolutely amazing that Behe is allowed to spew his utter nonsense. Then again, he unwittingly marks a point AGAINST evolution in a sense, because he&#039;s able to sell a 200 year old debunked argument (the &quot;watchmaker&quot;) to unsuspecting Americans, so obviously, we haven&#039;t evolved as much as we wish we had. Sadly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Wikipedia article <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irreducible_complexity" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irreducible_complexity</a> is a good read. I find it absolutely amazing that Behe is allowed to spew his utter nonsense. Then again, he unwittingly marks a point AGAINST evolution in a sense, because he&#8217;s able to sell a 200 year old debunked argument (the &#8220;watchmaker&#8221;) to unsuspecting Americans, so obviously, we haven&#8217;t evolved as much as we wish we had. Sadly.</p>
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