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	<title>Comments on: Bush Administration Sex &#8220;Education&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Jr.</title>
		<link>http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/archives/198/bush-administration-sex-education/comment-page-1#comment-4533</link>
		<dc:creator>Jr.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 18:00:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, by God in the sky Himself Lord Jesus, they better be! I don&#039;t want to be scarred by the horrors of what happens when a trouser-bunny goes into a hoo-ha! ESPECIALLY if the trouser-bunny is wearing a condom, a very tool of the devil himself! CONSEQUENCES! ABSTINENCE! JESUS! BILE! BLAH!

... seriously? I live in a ridiculously repressed Texas city. Basically, we have a guy named Ed Ainsworth (misogynistic fundie) screech and hiss about how girls just aren&#039;t keeping their legs shut tight enough. He brings along a little basswood Wheel of Fortune: CONSEQUENCE! Edition. Of the eight slots, seven are STDs and STIs, pregnancy, whathaveyou. There&#039;s a tiny sliver that says something about &#039;home free&#039;. Curiously enough, most of the time students spin it as part of his &#039;sex talk&#039;, they land on &#039;home free&#039; for whatever reason. Huh. There&#039;s a message.

And clearly it&#039;s effective, because we have something to the tune of the 3rd highest teen pregnancy/STD rate in the nation. Not even just Texas, the WHOLE NATION. I&#039;ll bet the rest are abstinence-only too. Every few years the health report card thing that channel 11 news does always, always shows a &quot;continually high rate of STDs and STIs.&quot;

In fact, it&#039;s where &quot;The Education of Shelby Knox&quot; was about. Personally I haven&#039;t seen it, but maybe you might want to. See, fundies? Even active Christians can side with the evil libruls. 

Not helping that Fundie-In-Chief supports this, too. -sigh- one more year, one more year...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, by God in the sky Himself Lord Jesus, they better be! I don&#8217;t want to be scarred by the horrors of what happens when a trouser-bunny goes into a hoo-ha! ESPECIALLY if the trouser-bunny is wearing a condom, a very tool of the devil himself! CONSEQUENCES! ABSTINENCE! JESUS! BILE! BLAH!</p>
<p>&#8230; seriously? I live in a ridiculously repressed Texas city. Basically, we have a guy named Ed Ainsworth (misogynistic fundie) screech and hiss about how girls just aren&#8217;t keeping their legs shut tight enough. He brings along a little basswood Wheel of Fortune: CONSEQUENCE! Edition. Of the eight slots, seven are STDs and STIs, pregnancy, whathaveyou. There&#8217;s a tiny sliver that says something about &#8216;home free&#8217;. Curiously enough, most of the time students spin it as part of his &#8216;sex talk&#8217;, they land on &#8216;home free&#8217; for whatever reason. Huh. There&#8217;s a message.</p>
<p>And clearly it&#8217;s effective, because we have something to the tune of the 3rd highest teen pregnancy/STD rate in the nation. Not even just Texas, the WHOLE NATION. I&#8217;ll bet the rest are abstinence-only too. Every few years the health report card thing that channel 11 news does always, always shows a &#8220;continually high rate of STDs and STIs.&#8221;</p>
<p>In fact, it&#8217;s where &#8220;The Education of Shelby Knox&#8221; was about. Personally I haven&#8217;t seen it, but maybe you might want to. See, fundies? Even active Christians can side with the evil libruls. </p>
<p>Not helping that Fundie-In-Chief supports this, too. -sigh- one more year, one more year&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Britton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron Britton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 05:13:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They don&#039;t accept compromise, and they don&#039;t accept logic, reason, and rationality.

So, no.  It wouldn&#039;t work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They don&#8217;t accept compromise, and they don&#8217;t accept logic, reason, and rationality.</p>
<p>So, no.  It wouldn&#8217;t work.</p>
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		<title>By: The Watcher</title>
		<link>http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/archives/198/bush-administration-sex-education/comment-page-1#comment-4518</link>
		<dc:creator>The Watcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 04:54:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This makes me want to slam my head on my desk! There is no science behind &quot;Abstinence-Only Sex Ed,&quot; just religious agenda.

You know what? Can we compromise? When I was researching my latest victim a day or two ago, I came across a whole heap of misinformation about sex ed from Crazy Women Fundies of America (www.cwfa.org). They kept insisting we needed to teach &quot;abstinence until marriage.&quot; I would ALMOST be willing to strike a compromise with the fundies. &quot;How about we teach abstinence until you&#039;re ready for a mature relationship?&quot; Can we do that? Maybe? I can think of no good reason to wait until marriage. It seems to serve no legitimate purpose that I can think of.

Of course, we&#039;d need to teach birth control too (yes, including condoms). I don&#039;t mind teaching failure rates. The ACTUAL failure rates, however, not some cockamamie, agenda-driven lie the fundies invented as a scare tactic.

Oh yes, and STIs? Yes, we know that on rare occasion, an STI can be passed despite condom use (and yes, I&#039;m aware of herpes and HPV and the nonsense), so let&#039;s compromise again. You fundies tell your scare stories, and I&#039;ll just teach that you don&#039;t have to worry about STIs if you&#039;re not having sex with anybody who has an STI.

Would that work?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This makes me want to slam my head on my desk! There is no science behind &#8220;Abstinence-Only Sex Ed,&#8221; just religious agenda.</p>
<p>You know what? Can we compromise? When I was researching my latest victim a day or two ago, I came across a whole heap of misinformation about sex ed from Crazy Women Fundies of America (www.cwfa.org). They kept insisting we needed to teach &#8220;abstinence until marriage.&#8221; I would ALMOST be willing to strike a compromise with the fundies. &#8220;How about we teach abstinence until you&#8217;re ready for a mature relationship?&#8221; Can we do that? Maybe? I can think of no good reason to wait until marriage. It seems to serve no legitimate purpose that I can think of.</p>
<p>Of course, we&#8217;d need to teach birth control too (yes, including condoms). I don&#8217;t mind teaching failure rates. The ACTUAL failure rates, however, not some cockamamie, agenda-driven lie the fundies invented as a scare tactic.</p>
<p>Oh yes, and STIs? Yes, we know that on rare occasion, an STI can be passed despite condom use (and yes, I&#8217;m aware of herpes and HPV and the nonsense), so let&#8217;s compromise again. You fundies tell your scare stories, and I&#8217;ll just teach that you don&#8217;t have to worry about STIs if you&#8217;re not having sex with anybody who has an STI.</p>
<p>Would that work?</p>
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