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	<title>Comments on: It&#8217;s Number 17 for the Duggars!</title>
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		<title>by: S.</title>
		<link>http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/archives/192/its-number-17-for-the-duggars#comment-21353</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 03:07:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>OMG,thx Alex..the mother looks like she's 60,not 44! her 51 yo hubby looks younger than she does.she looks worn out..I'd be old, worn and frazzled,too w/ 18 kids!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OMG,thx Alex..the mother looks like she&#8217;s 60,not 44! her 51 yo hubby looks younger than she does.she looks worn out..I&#8217;d be old, worn and frazzled,too w/ 18 kids!
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		<title>by: S.</title>
		<link>http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/archives/192/its-number-17-for-the-duggars#comment-21352</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 02:58:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>LOL Barbara...yes,go for oysters JB.not crabs! LOL.oh that was bad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL Barbara&#8230;yes,go for oysters JB.not crabs! LOL.oh that was bad.
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		<title>by: Alex</title>
		<link>http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/archives/192/its-number-17-for-the-duggars#comment-21247</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 03:09:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>To my chagrin, I discovered that Canada harbours &lt;a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080729/ap_on_fe_st/odd_canada_large_family;_ylt=AtOVdqJqH3X2wmttkxDnde.s0NUE" target="_blank" title="Yahoo article. Opens in new window." rel="nofollow"&gt;the Duggars, +1&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To my chagrin, I discovered that Canada harbours <a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080729/ap_on_fe_st/odd_canada_large_family;_ylt=AtOVdqJqH3X2wmttkxDnde.s0NUE" target="_blank" title="Yahoo article. Opens in new window." rel="nofollow">the Duggars, +1</a>.
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		<title>by: Barbara</title>
		<link>http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/archives/192/its-number-17-for-the-duggars#comment-21215</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 20:47:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Maybe it's just me, but I thought the funniest part of the video was where Momma Duggar said that she'd always wanted a pearl necklace. Aim higher, Jim Bob, aim higher...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe it&#8217;s just me, but I thought the funniest part of the video was where Momma Duggar said that she&#8217;d always wanted a pearl necklace. Aim higher, Jim Bob, aim higher&#8230;
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		<title>by: S.</title>
		<link>http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/archives/192/its-number-17-for-the-duggars#comment-21131</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 03:05:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>they act like silly teenagers on the announcement video..like it's their first baby.I mean get real...they 40+.I think it makes them feel young;one reason they keep it up.I doubt they're going to be the type to just enjoy their future grandkids when they're busy producing their own kids!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>they act like silly teenagers on the announcement video..like it&#8217;s their first baby.I mean get real&#8230;they 40+.I think it makes them feel young;one reason they keep it up.I doubt they&#8217;re going to be the type to just enjoy their future grandkids when they&#8217;re busy producing their own kids!
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		<title>by: Sue Blue</title>
		<link>http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/archives/192/its-number-17-for-the-duggars#comment-20997</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 04:48:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/archives/192/its-number-17-for-the-duggars#comment-20997</guid>
					<description>Please, just let it be over.  Please.  Put a cork in it.  Or superglue.  Or something. Or, hey , Doc, when repairing the episiotomy, why not just keep sewing?  Anything.  Just please, no more Duggars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please, just let it be over.  Please.  Put a cork in it.  Or superglue.  Or something. Or, hey , Doc, when repairing the episiotomy, why not just keep sewing?  Anything.  Just please, no more Duggars.
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		<title>by: cat lady</title>
		<link>http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/archives/192/its-number-17-for-the-duggars#comment-20986</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 02:23:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/archives/192/its-number-17-for-the-duggars#comment-20986</guid>
					<description>In case you haven't heard, she is pregnant with number 18 and due in January 2009...whatever!  Dont this people realize how selfish they are?  I mean, come on people enough all ready!  They should be taken out and horsed whipped!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In case you haven&#8217;t heard, she is pregnant with number 18 and due in January 2009&#8230;whatever!  Dont this people realize how selfish they are?  I mean, come on people enough all ready!  They should be taken out and horsed whipped!
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		<title>by: S.</title>
		<link>http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/archives/192/its-number-17-for-the-duggars#comment-19397</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 06:19:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/archives/192/its-number-17-for-the-duggars#comment-19397</guid>
					<description>The McCaughey's had they type done where they stimulate the ovaries with fertility drugs,then induce ovulation,and shortly afterwards,inject sperm into the tubes.That gives the best chance of a pregnancy,without the really high cost of doing the test tube method.(although it's still expensive,I hear).
The problem is that when they ultrasound the ovaries, looking for how many follicles have ruptured before injecting the sperm,it just doesn't always give an accurate picture of how many are really there.In their case,it showed 3,but obviously there were more.And it had happened in several cases bf and after that as well.That's why I think she should have been out there warning women about that type of treatment.It can and did happen.
But Dr's switched to the test tube method only now,and only putting a small no. back into the uterus...or so I read anyway.It's more expensive,but safer.That's why you don't hear of women using fertility methods and becoming pregnant w/ 6-8 or so anymore.Someone finally got a clue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The McCaughey&#8217;s had they type done where they stimulate the ovaries with fertility drugs,then induce ovulation,and shortly afterwards,inject sperm into the tubes.That gives the best chance of a pregnancy,without the really high cost of doing the test tube method.(although it&#8217;s still expensive,I hear).<br />
The problem is that when they ultrasound the ovaries, looking for how many follicles have ruptured before injecting the sperm,it just doesn&#8217;t always give an accurate picture of how many are really there.In their case,it showed 3,but obviously there were more.And it had happened in several cases bf and after that as well.That&#8217;s why I think she should have been out there warning women about that type of treatment.It can and did happen.<br />
But Dr&#8217;s switched to the test tube method only now,and only putting a small no. back into the uterus&#8230;or so I read anyway.It&#8217;s more expensive,but safer.That&#8217;s why you don&#8217;t hear of women using fertility methods and becoming pregnant w/ 6-8 or so anymore.Someone finally got a clue.
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		<title>by: LadyRavana</title>
		<link>http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/archives/192/its-number-17-for-the-duggars#comment-19392</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 04:03:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Agreed. I would think that stuffing 5-7 embryos into a single womb would be dangerous to the mother, and the babies. Plus, it costs a lot of money, and I'm sure a lot of heartbreak from miscarriages/still birth/severe birth defects also result from that. I'd think it'd be safer to put three in a uterus, hoping at least one will take.

Now, I know there are couples out there absolutely DESPERATE to have children of their own, and I feel sympathy for them...but I'd like to think they'd at least consider the health of the mother AND the future babies. Carrying four or five fetuses at a time is pretty risky, to say the least, and I do believe there's a pretty high fetal mortality rate in pregnancies like that.

But I'm glad to see that they've stopped with the six or seven embryo practice. Because I think that's seriously overdoing it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed. I would think that stuffing 5-7 embryos into a single womb would be dangerous to the mother, and the babies. Plus, it costs a lot of money, and I&#8217;m sure a lot of heartbreak from miscarriages/still birth/severe birth defects also result from that. I&#8217;d think it&#8217;d be safer to put three in a uterus, hoping at least one will take.</p>
<p>Now, I know there are couples out there absolutely DESPERATE to have children of their own, and I feel sympathy for them&#8230;but I&#8217;d like to think they&#8217;d at least consider the health of the mother AND the future babies. Carrying four or five fetuses at a time is pretty risky, to say the least, and I do believe there&#8217;s a pretty high fetal mortality rate in pregnancies like that.</p>
<p>But I&#8217;m glad to see that they&#8217;ve stopped with the six or seven embryo practice. Because I think that&#8217;s seriously overdoing it.
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		<title>by: S.</title>
		<link>http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/archives/192/its-number-17-for-the-duggars#comment-19368</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 05:19:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>absolutely! nature intended for things to be done a certain way for good reason,and when you go outside those paramaters,well..anything can happen,as the McCaugheys found out.(yes,it's pronouced McCoy).But they did decide they had enough kids after that.(I'm sure I would have,too! ) LOL.
Not that I'm totally against fertility treatments,it just seems some families had to go thru some quite fantastic experiences b/f that type of treatment was finally brought to an end.(Although even drugs like Clomid can produce multiple fetuses).Perhaps a case of 'be careful what you wish for'?!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>absolutely! nature intended for things to be done a certain way for good reason,and when you go outside those paramaters,well..anything can happen,as the McCaugheys found out.(yes,it&#8217;s pronouced McCoy).But they did decide they had enough kids after that.(I&#8217;m sure I would have,too! ) LOL.<br />
Not that I&#8217;m totally against fertility treatments,it just seems some families had to go thru some quite fantastic experiences b/f that type of treatment was finally brought to an end.(Although even drugs like Clomid can produce multiple fetuses).Perhaps a case of &#8216;be careful what you wish for&#8217;?!
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		<title>by: LadyRavana</title>
		<link>http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/archives/192/its-number-17-for-the-duggars#comment-19367</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 04:47:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Thanks for bringing up fertility treatments guys. Yeah, it's a pet peeve of mine too, and I was always greatly disturbed when people would stick six or seven embryos into one uterus...good lord, I don't think God (if he exists) intended for us to have litters.

I think I've heard of the McCaughey (pronounced McCoy, right?) I think some Discovery specials have been done about them...I didn't know they were a variety of crazy fundie.

I think science is awesome. Certain areas of science fascinate me, and I have an admiration for the scientists that make breakthroughs and discoveries every day.

But...there's one golden rule that I think should be applied to some areas of science (i.e. fertility treatments)

Just because you CAN, doesn't mean you SHOULD.

Simple enough, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for bringing up fertility treatments guys. Yeah, it&#8217;s a pet peeve of mine too, and I was always greatly disturbed when people would stick six or seven embryos into one uterus&#8230;good lord, I don&#8217;t think God (if he exists) intended for us to have litters.</p>
<p>I think I&#8217;ve heard of the McCaughey (pronounced McCoy, right?) I think some Discovery specials have been done about them&#8230;I didn&#8217;t know they were a variety of crazy fundie.</p>
<p>I think science is awesome. Certain areas of science fascinate me, and I have an admiration for the scientists that make breakthroughs and discoveries every day.</p>
<p>But&#8230;there&#8217;s one golden rule that I think should be applied to some areas of science (i.e. fertility treatments)</p>
<p>Just because you CAN, doesn&#8217;t mean you SHOULD.</p>
<p>Simple enough, right?
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		<title>by: S.</title>
		<link>http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/archives/192/its-number-17-for-the-duggars#comment-19000</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 02:50:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I agree,and I certainly wouldn't blame anyone but myself if I'd used fertility treatments and something went wrong.Saying it is God's plan,wow,what a way to rationalize.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree,and I certainly wouldn&#8217;t blame anyone but myself if I&#8217;d used fertility treatments and something went wrong.Saying it is God&#8217;s plan,wow,what a way to rationalize.
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