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		<title>By: lisamariefan</title>
		<link>http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/archives/1867/a-house-divided-against-itself-cannot-stand/comment-page-1#comment-51257</link>
		<dc:creator>lisamariefan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Nov 2010 22:26:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know, I don&#039;t think the fundies appreciate the irony of having free speech.

That is to say, if America today were truly like any of the totalitarian regimes that they keep equating Obama&#039;s and his Administration to, they&#039;d be killed for their dissent, or put in prison.

Fucking retards don&#039;t even understand that much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, I don&#8217;t think the fundies appreciate the irony of having free speech.</p>
<p>That is to say, if America today were truly like any of the totalitarian regimes that they keep equating Obama&#8217;s and his Administration to, they&#8217;d be killed for their dissent, or put in prison.</p>
<p>Fucking retards don&#8217;t even understand that much.</p>
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		<title>By: KennyCelican</title>
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		<dc:creator>KennyCelican</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 20:47:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OtherRob - Knew that at one time, didn&#039;t recall it when I was writing.  The only reason I picked Jimmy was that he appeared to be the most personally peaceful individual who has been President in my lifetime.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OtherRob &#8211; Knew that at one time, didn&#8217;t recall it when I was writing.  The only reason I picked Jimmy was that he appeared to be the most personally peaceful individual who has been President in my lifetime.</p>
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		<title>By: Parrotlover77</title>
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		<dc:creator>Parrotlover77</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 14:37:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kenny - I agree, to a point.  I think it&#039;s fine if the president wants somebody like that in their cabinet.  But somebody with such broad executive powers (as in, over and beyond advisory) should have to get congressional approval.  But a &quot;car czar&quot; or something along those lines?  I don&#039;t see the point of the outrage.

Anyway, there is arguably actually a small point to the protest deep down underneath all the racism and &quot;hate me some liebruls&quot; attitude, but they wouldn&#039;t know where to find it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kenny &#8211; I agree, to a point.  I think it&#8217;s fine if the president wants somebody like that in their cabinet.  But somebody with such broad executive powers (as in, over and beyond advisory) should have to get congressional approval.  But a &#8220;car czar&#8221; or something along those lines?  I don&#8217;t see the point of the outrage.</p>
<p>Anyway, there is arguably actually a small point to the protest deep down underneath all the racism and &#8220;hate me some liebruls&#8221; attitude, but they wouldn&#8217;t know where to find it.</p>
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		<title>By: OtherRob</title>
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		<dc:creator>OtherRob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 04:35:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Well, I could see a very non-military minded President (Carter springs to mind) appointing a former military person to a position like that, in a ‘I’ll tell you my goals, you translate them so the folks in the puzzle palace understand them clearly’ kind of way.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

While I&#039;m not going to defend the Presidency of Jimmy Carter, I would like to point out here that he did, in fact, serve several years of active duty in the Navy after graduating from the Naval Academy. So I don&#039;t think he really fits your description here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Well, I could see a very non-military minded President (Carter springs to mind) appointing a former military person to a position like that, in a ‘I’ll tell you my goals, you translate them so the folks in the puzzle palace understand them clearly’ kind of way.</p></blockquote>
<p>While I&#039;m not going to defend the Presidency of Jimmy Carter, I would like to point out here that he did, in fact, serve several years of active duty in the Navy after graduating from the Naval Academy. So I don&#039;t think he really fits your description here.</p>
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		<title>By: KennyCelican</title>
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		<dc:creator>KennyCelican</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 22:24:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I could see a very non-military minded President (Carter springs to mind) appointing a former military person to a position like that, in a &#039;I&#039;ll tell you my goals, you translate them so the folks in the puzzle palace understand them clearly&#039; kind of way.

But what we had seemed more of a &#039;I am lazy&#039; and &#039;I need plausible deniability&#039; combo platter with a side of &#039;scapegoat if needed&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I could see a very non-military minded President (Carter springs to mind) appointing a former military person to a position like that, in a &#8216;I&#8217;ll tell you my goals, you translate them so the folks in the puzzle palace understand them clearly&#8217; kind of way.</p>
<p>But what we had seemed more of a &#8216;I am lazy&#8217; and &#8216;I need plausible deniability&#8217; combo platter with a side of &#8216;scapegoat if needed&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Parrotlover77</title>
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		<dc:creator>Parrotlover77</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 14:48:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One problem with the &quot;protesting against the czars&quot; is that these people apparently don&#039;t realize that not a single so-called Czar actually has the official title Czar.  The word Czar was made up by the media because they are too god damn lazy to write out the full title of the individual.  And then the media actually covers the protestors &quot;against czars&quot; as if they actually have some sort of point.  The media is, at least, equally responsible for the dumbing of America as fundies are.

Remember Bush&#039;s so-called War Czar (Assistant to the President and Deputy National Security Advisor for Iraq and Afghanistan)?  Where was the outrage then?  He basically handed over a part of his commander-in-chief duties to a non-congressionally approved random dude.  I&#039;m not against the idea that the president can appoint people as advisors without congressional approval, but somebody with the power to direct the pentagon?  That was a bit overboard.  So where was the outrage then?!?!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One problem with the &#8220;protesting against the czars&#8221; is that these people apparently don&#8217;t realize that not a single so-called Czar actually has the official title Czar.  The word Czar was made up by the media because they are too god damn lazy to write out the full title of the individual.  And then the media actually covers the protestors &#8220;against czars&#8221; as if they actually have some sort of point.  The media is, at least, equally responsible for the dumbing of America as fundies are.</p>
<p>Remember Bush&#8217;s so-called War Czar (Assistant to the President and Deputy National Security Advisor for Iraq and Afghanistan)?  Where was the outrage then?  He basically handed over a part of his commander-in-chief duties to a non-congressionally approved random dude.  I&#8217;m not against the idea that the president can appoint people as advisors without congressional approval, but somebody with the power to direct the pentagon?  That was a bit overboard.  So where was the outrage then?!?!</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Eyges</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Eyges</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 10:29:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;And leave it to George W Bush to have an Abstinence Czar!&lt;/blockquote&gt;

If only they&#039;d been preaching abstinence when Bush Sr. and Barbara were younger...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>And leave it to George W Bush to have an Abstinence Czar!</p></blockquote>
<p>If only they&#8217;d been preaching abstinence when Bush Sr. and Barbara were younger&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Britton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron Britton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 07:25:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>KennyCelican:

You are correct.  I thought Reagan was the first to have a drug czar, but apparently &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Czar_(political_term)&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; title=&quot;Wikipedia article. Opens in new window.&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Richard Nixon was the first&lt;/a&gt;.  Other czars date back &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._executive_branch_czars&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; title=&quot;Wikipedia article. Opens in new window.&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;at least as far as FDR&lt;/a&gt;.  And leave it to George W Bush to have an Abstinence Czar!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>KennyCelican:</p>
<p>You are correct.  I thought Reagan was the first to have a drug czar, but apparently <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Czar_(political_term)" target="_blank" title="Wikipedia article. Opens in new window." rel="nofollow">Richard Nixon was the first</a>.  Other czars date back <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._executive_branch_czars" target="_blank" title="Wikipedia article. Opens in new window." rel="nofollow">at least as far as FDR</a>.  And leave it to George W Bush to have an Abstinence Czar!</p>
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		<title>By: KennyCelican</title>
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		<dc:creator>KennyCelican</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 21:26:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*blink blink*

I think the word Czar predates Reagan just a wee bit.  Unless you&#039;re talking about the media borrowing the word?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*blink blink*</p>
<p>I think the word Czar predates Reagan just a wee bit.  Unless you&#8217;re talking about the media borrowing the word?</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Gilbert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Gilbert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 16:27:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The lack of any kind of consistent message is really telling. Like Parrotlover77 says, all this crowd is doing is screaming that they still don&#039;t like Obama. If that many people showed up with a coherent, consistent message, it might actually be noteworthy (in a positive way), but they didn&#039;t even come close.

I also find it amusing how many of those people complain about &quot;czars&quot;... and don&#039;t know that the term first came to be used during Reagan&#039;s administration with the &quot;Drug Czar.&quot; Heh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The lack of any kind of consistent message is really telling. Like Parrotlover77 says, all this crowd is doing is screaming that they still don&#8217;t like Obama. If that many people showed up with a coherent, consistent message, it might actually be noteworthy (in a positive way), but they didn&#8217;t even come close.</p>
<p>I also find it amusing how many of those people complain about &#8220;czars&#8221;&#8230; and don&#8217;t know that the term first came to be used during Reagan&#8217;s administration with the &#8220;Drug Czar.&#8221; Heh.</p>
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		<title>By: Parrotlover77</title>
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		<dc:creator>Parrotlover77</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 13:39:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These rallies are completely pointless.  I can personally guarantee you that not a single soul attending that rally (at least with a sign, since some were reporters and bloggers taking pictures) voted for Obama.  So what&#039;s the point?  ZOMG you STILL don&#039;t like Obama.  Congratufuckinglations.

When libs did the anti-war protests, it wasn&#039;t just a random &quot;anti-Bush&quot; rally.  It had a point.  They were protesting a war.  They were protesting needless death.  They were protesting violence.

These fuckers are protesting the fact that a black man with a foreign sounding name is the president.  Actual arguments against health care (ZOMG DEATH PANELS ABORTIONS GAYS doesn&#039;t count) were completely non-existent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These rallies are completely pointless.  I can personally guarantee you that not a single soul attending that rally (at least with a sign, since some were reporters and bloggers taking pictures) voted for Obama.  So what&#8217;s the point?  ZOMG you STILL don&#8217;t like Obama.  Congratufuckinglations.</p>
<p>When libs did the anti-war protests, it wasn&#8217;t just a random &#8220;anti-Bush&#8221; rally.  It had a point.  They were protesting a war.  They were protesting needless death.  They were protesting violence.</p>
<p>These fuckers are protesting the fact that a black man with a foreign sounding name is the president.  Actual arguments against health care (ZOMG DEATH PANELS ABORTIONS GAYS doesn&#8217;t count) were completely non-existent.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Eyges</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Eyges</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 12:08:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Congrats to them for passing kindergarten!&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I wouldn&#039;t leap even to that assumption.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Congrats to them for passing kindergarten!</p></blockquote>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t leap even to that assumption.</p>
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