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		<title>By: Ron Britton</title>
		<link>http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/archives/1758/martyring-themselves-on-the-first-amendment/comment-page-1#comment-37777</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron Britton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 02:57:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Denise:

&lt;blockquote&gt;i think aver reacting with jail time, is just as bad.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The jail time isn&#039;t being imposed by atheists or the ACLU.  Once a court order is involved, any violation is considered contempt of court.  He&#039;s not being thrown in jail for praying.  He&#039;s being thrown in jail for violating a judge&#039;s orders.

&lt;blockquote&gt;there were always prayers said at my high school functions, but no one was forced to participate and i never felt like my rights were violated.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

A long history of infringing your rights does not justify the continuation of that infringement.  And just because you weren&#039;t bothered by it doesn&#039;t mean others weren&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Denise:</p>
<blockquote><p>i think aver reacting with jail time, is just as bad.</p></blockquote>
<p>The jail time isn&#8217;t being imposed by atheists or the ACLU.  Once a court order is involved, any violation is considered contempt of court.  He&#8217;s not being thrown in jail for praying.  He&#8217;s being thrown in jail for violating a judge&#8217;s orders.</p>
<blockquote><p>there were always prayers said at my high school functions, but no one was forced to participate and i never felt like my rights were violated.</p></blockquote>
<p>A long history of infringing your rights does not justify the continuation of that infringement.  And just because you weren&#8217;t bothered by it doesn&#8217;t mean others weren&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: denise</title>
		<link>http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/archives/1758/martyring-themselves-on-the-first-amendment/comment-page-1#comment-37767</link>
		<dc:creator>denise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 16:53:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>as much as i think he should not be allowed to bring prayer and stuff into schools, i think aver reacting with jail time, is just as bad.

look this guy can&#039;t separate his beliefs from the school, and that needs to change, but jail?that is a little to extreme and it does kinda make us(atheists) look like the bad guy.

we should always look for a common ground, if christians feel threatened all they will do is fight back, there must be must compromise. 

and anyway,there were always prayers said at my high school functions, but no one was forced to participate and i never felt like my rights were violated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>as much as i think he should not be allowed to bring prayer and stuff into schools, i think aver reacting with jail time, is just as bad.</p>
<p>look this guy can&#8217;t separate his beliefs from the school, and that needs to change, but jail?that is a little to extreme and it does kinda make us(atheists) look like the bad guy.</p>
<p>we should always look for a common ground, if christians feel threatened all they will do is fight back, there must be must compromise. </p>
<p>and anyway,there were always prayers said at my high school functions, but no one was forced to participate and i never felt like my rights were violated.</p>
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		<title>By: O1d Ord3r</title>
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		<dc:creator>O1d Ord3r</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 05:36:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I went to pace high school(class of 09) and this is absolutely right, try to have a discussion with people there about the bible being wrong and the whole class turns against you its fucking insane. Its more the principal then the teachers though, people like Mr.Smith and Mrs. Trew hear both sides and mediate debates that i started in class. Fun times.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I went to pace high school(class of 09) and this is absolutely right, try to have a discussion with people there about the bible being wrong and the whole class turns against you its fucking insane. Its more the principal then the teachers though, people like Mr.Smith and Mrs. Trew hear both sides and mediate debates that i started in class. Fun times.</p>
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		<title>By: Parrotlover77</title>
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		<dc:creator>Parrotlover77</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 13:14:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, but Sam.  They would just say &quot;praying is not a vending machine&quot; and then you&#039;ll be left pondering the great George Carlin sketch about praying to Joe Pesci. 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, but Sam.  They would just say &#8220;praying is not a vending machine&#8221; and then you&#8217;ll be left pondering the great George Carlin sketch about praying to Joe Pesci.<br />
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		<title>By: SamHouston</title>
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		<dc:creator>SamHouston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2009 11:56:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If prayer &quot;works&quot; why do they need to sell T-shirts to raise money for a legal defense?  They should represent themselves before the judge and speak the words that god &quot;supplies&quot; them at the critical moments.

Hope they don&#039;t read this and &quot;smarten up&quot; (as my Nova Scotian wife says).  Poor kids.  Nothing really fails as badly as a child&#039;s prayer.  But, it could be the first big xian lie that opens their minds to reason.

Speaking of the Bay of Fundy, Nova Scotia.  Go there in July, the only 4 weeks of warm weather in NS.  (OK -- the first and last weeks of July are very cool.)  Take the time to hike to Cape Split.  Take a wide-angle lens camera for some great shots.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If prayer &#8220;works&#8221; why do they need to sell T-shirts to raise money for a legal defense?  They should represent themselves before the judge and speak the words that god &#8220;supplies&#8221; them at the critical moments.</p>
<p>Hope they don&#8217;t read this and &#8220;smarten up&#8221; (as my Nova Scotian wife says).  Poor kids.  Nothing really fails as badly as a child&#8217;s prayer.  But, it could be the first big xian lie that opens their minds to reason.</p>
<p>Speaking of the Bay of Fundy, Nova Scotia.  Go there in July, the only 4 weeks of warm weather in NS.  (OK &#8212; the first and last weeks of July are very cool.)  Take the time to hike to Cape Split.  Take a wide-angle lens camera for some great shots.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Eyges</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Eyges</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2009 11:31:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Somehow the principal’s constitutional rights are important, but the rights of hundreds of high school students aren’t.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

It&#039;s always about their rights. This country was founded by God for their benefit, after all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Somehow the principal’s constitutional rights are important, but the rights of hundreds of high school students aren’t.</p></blockquote>
<p>It&#8217;s always about their rights. This country was founded by God for their benefit, after all.</p>
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		<title>By: Allen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Allen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 22:15:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Found these reviews of of Pace H.S. on Google Maps (of all places)

&quot;... I love the fact that it gives off a christian persona....and I hope it always stays this way! For those of you who do not agree with this and the way the administration believe....there are other schools to choose from...go ...‎&quot;

&quot;...the administration acts as if it&#039;s a private christian school...

&quot;...there is a huge religious undertone that tends to be a bit over the line.&quot;

I think that prety my says it all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Found these reviews of of Pace H.S. on Google Maps (of all places)</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230; I love the fact that it gives off a christian persona&#8230;.and I hope it always stays this way! For those of you who do not agree with this and the way the administration believe&#8230;.there are other schools to choose from&#8230;go &#8230;‎&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;the administration acts as if it&#8217;s a private christian school&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;there is a huge religious undertone that tends to be a bit over the line.&#8221;</p>
<p>I think that prety my says it all.</p>
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		<title>By: cousinavi</title>
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		<dc:creator>cousinavi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 13:15:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No joke, brother.
Make NS your next vacation destination.  Drop me a note.
We&#039;ll make Bluenoser out of you, eh.

&quot;I&#039;m a broken man on a Halifax pier, the last of Barrett&#039;s Privateers...&quot;

You can take my word for this:  You&#039;ll never go anywhere better or have a finer time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No joke, brother.<br />
Make NS your next vacation destination.  Drop me a note.<br />
We&#8217;ll make Bluenoser out of you, eh.</p>
<p>&#8220;I&#8217;m a broken man on a Halifax pier, the last of Barrett&#8217;s Privateers&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>You can take my word for this:  You&#8217;ll never go anywhere better or have a finer time.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Britton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron Britton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 05:15:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cousinavi:

I haven&#039;t been there.  It&#039;s on my long list of places to see before I die.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cousinavi:</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t been there.  It&#8217;s on my long list of places to see before I die.</p>
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		<title>By: cousinavi</title>
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		<dc:creator>cousinavi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 04:52:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Ron

Highest tides in the world, toughest mean ass lobsters on the planet, and sweet juicy scallops.

We supplied Joe Kenedy with all the rum, gin and whiskey Capone could sell, and we still crank put the meanest fiddle this side of whoever&#039;s playing with Bela Fleck this week.

Have you ever been?
When you want the absolute BEST vacation you ever had or ever will, drop me a note.  I&#039;ll set you up with a proper kitchen party.
Nothing prettier, and the best folks on earth.  Nova Scotia, me old trout...don&#039;t die without finding out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Ron</p>
<p>Highest tides in the world, toughest mean ass lobsters on the planet, and sweet juicy scallops.</p>
<p>We supplied Joe Kenedy with all the rum, gin and whiskey Capone could sell, and we still crank put the meanest fiddle this side of whoever&#8217;s playing with Bela Fleck this week.</p>
<p>Have you ever been?<br />
When you want the absolute BEST vacation you ever had or ever will, drop me a note.  I&#8217;ll set you up with a proper kitchen party.<br />
Nothing prettier, and the best folks on earth.  Nova Scotia, me old trout&#8230;don&#8217;t die without finding out.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Britton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron Britton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 03:45:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cousinavi:

A lot of Canadians like the pun.  I suspect they&#039;re the only ones who get it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cousinavi:</p>
<p>A lot of Canadians like the pun.  I suspect they&#8217;re the only ones who get it.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 01:26:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I want one of those T-shirts and, if it didn&#039;t involve giving money to scumbags, I&#039;d go ahead and buy one. It&#039;s just ironic enough to wear to a goth club.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want one of those T-shirts and, if it didn&#8217;t involve giving money to scumbags, I&#8217;d go ahead and buy one. It&#8217;s just ironic enough to wear to a goth club.</p>
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