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		<title>By: sue blue</title>
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		<dc:creator>sue blue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2009 00:32:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What an amazing thread.  Truly stunning levels of cognitive dissonance so insistently displayed and aggressively argued are rare.  Usually you just get the shrieking fundies whose caps-lock key and ! key seem to be permanently stuck.  But people who can actually write a whole sentence and spell most of the words correctly...and who claim to be scientists with real degrees who still rabidly defend medieval superstition and a belief in supernatural explanations...well, I must say I&#039;m impressed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What an amazing thread.  Truly stunning levels of cognitive dissonance so insistently displayed and aggressively argued are rare.  Usually you just get the shrieking fundies whose caps-lock key and ! key seem to be permanently stuck.  But people who can actually write a whole sentence and spell most of the words correctly&#8230;and who claim to be scientists with real degrees who still rabidly defend medieval superstition and a belief in supernatural explanations&#8230;well, I must say I&#8217;m impressed.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Eyges</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Eyges</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2009 00:32:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frankly, I think drive-by posting ought to be illegal. If they leave a snarky remark, they should be made to hang around and deal with the responses.

For people so frikking &lt;i&gt;obsessed&lt;/i&gt; with the idea of consequences for actions, Christians really do seem to think they can say whatever the fuck they feel like saying and get away with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frankly, I think drive-by posting ought to be illegal. If they leave a snarky remark, they should be made to hang around and deal with the responses.</p>
<p>For people so frikking <i>obsessed</i> with the idea of consequences for actions, Christians really do seem to think they can say whatever the fuck they feel like saying and get away with it.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 23:34:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Lauren saw something here that gave her a momentary twinge of doubt. She lashed out and ran away to reassure herself; this is one of the hallmarks of addiction. Probably started praying, or went immediately to a Christian site to buttress the walls of her fortress of denial.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Never to return to this accursed site, no doubt. I&#039;m betting that she truly feels like she won one for the Lord with her brief comment. Seriously, she&#039;s so out of touch she most likely believes we&#039;ll be persuaded by her scolding. 

You&#039;re correct about Christians&#039; aversion to self-examination and criticism of their precious faith. As I said in another comment, I believe this to be indicative of a profound insecurity about their beliefs, whether they realize it or not. Lashing out at something you not only don&#039;t understand but assiduously try to avoid comprehending is a classic example. 

At any rate, I&#039;d love for her to know that the prayers she surely made on our collective behalf had absolutely no effect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Lauren saw something here that gave her a momentary twinge of doubt. She lashed out and ran away to reassure herself; this is one of the hallmarks of addiction. Probably started praying, or went immediately to a Christian site to buttress the walls of her fortress of denial.</p></blockquote>
<p>Never to return to this accursed site, no doubt. I&#8217;m betting that she truly feels like she won one for the Lord with her brief comment. Seriously, she&#8217;s so out of touch she most likely believes we&#8217;ll be persuaded by her scolding. </p>
<p>You&#8217;re correct about Christians&#8217; aversion to self-examination and criticism of their precious faith. As I said in another comment, I believe this to be indicative of a profound insecurity about their beliefs, whether they realize it or not. Lashing out at something you not only don&#8217;t understand but assiduously try to avoid comprehending is a classic example. </p>
<p>At any rate, I&#8217;d love for her to know that the prayers she surely made on our collective behalf had absolutely no effect.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Eyges</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Eyges</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 11:08:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I wonder, Lauren, does it give you a small sense of smug satisfaction to literally tell someone with whom you disagree to go to Hell?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

It most certainly does. It&#039;s part of their obscene power fantasy, but most are unaware of it, and they&#039;d certainly never admit it, in any case. If there is a group of people less prone to introspection than Christians, I have yet to come across it.

Lauren saw something here that gave her a momentary twinge of doubt. She lashed out and ran away to reassure herself; this is one of the hallmarks of addiction. Probably started praying, or went immediately to a Christian site to buttress the walls of her fortress of denial.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I wonder, Lauren, does it give you a small sense of smug satisfaction to literally tell someone with whom you disagree to go to Hell?</p></blockquote>
<p>It most certainly does. It&#8217;s part of their obscene power fantasy, but most are unaware of it, and they&#8217;d certainly never admit it, in any case. If there is a group of people less prone to introspection than Christians, I have yet to come across it.</p>
<p>Lauren saw something here that gave her a momentary twinge of doubt. She lashed out and ran away to reassure herself; this is one of the hallmarks of addiction. Probably started praying, or went immediately to a Christian site to buttress the walls of her fortress of denial.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 23:16:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, yes. Now there&#039;s some more of that vaunted Christian &quot;love&quot; for you! 

I wonder, Lauren, does it give you a small sense of smug satisfaction to literally tell someone with whom you disagree to go to Hell? I think it does. Come on. You can be honest with us. You love the idea of all of us dickhead atheists getting our just desserts when we die, don&#039;t you? 

Here&#039;s something I hope you ponder, if you even read this: even if the celestial rules pertaining to life and death are as you describe them, why in the frak would I even want them to be true? Not only do I not believe in your tyrannical, jealous ogre of a deity, I am so fucking glad he doesn&#039;t exist. Your idea of heaven, replete with the endless worship of a being so richly undeserving of it sounds a hell of a lot worse than death to me. Give me the same eternity of nothingness when I die that I experienced before I was even born. That didn&#039;t seem to bother me in the slightest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, yes. Now there&#8217;s some more of that vaunted Christian &#8220;love&#8221; for you! </p>
<p>I wonder, Lauren, does it give you a small sense of smug satisfaction to literally tell someone with whom you disagree to go to Hell? I think it does. Come on. You can be honest with us. You love the idea of all of us dickhead atheists getting our just desserts when we die, don&#8217;t you? </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s something I hope you ponder, if you even read this: even if the celestial rules pertaining to life and death are as you describe them, why in the frak would I even want them to be true? Not only do I not believe in your tyrannical, jealous ogre of a deity, I am so fucking glad he doesn&#8217;t exist. Your idea of heaven, replete with the endless worship of a being so richly undeserving of it sounds a hell of a lot worse than death to me. Give me the same eternity of nothingness when I die that I experienced before I was even born. That didn&#8217;t seem to bother me in the slightest.</p>
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		<title>By: Lauren</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lauren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 21:11:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You all should be thankful Jesus died on the cross for you, not make fun of him. You will go to hell for doing so.</description>
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		<title>By: Ron Britton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron Britton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 20:44:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That last comment is spam.  He&#039;s been leaving this same comment on other blogs.  I decided to leave it in, because it&#039;s so funny.  I did remove the link to his own site.  Spammers don&#039;t get rewarded with links.

Creationists work extremely hard to prop up their house of cards, as the above comment illustrates.  If anyone is confused by his ramblings, you should watch this video:  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/archives/433/cheetahs-disprove-noahs-ark&quot; title=&quot;Go to &#039;Cheetahs Disprove Noah&#039;s Ark&#039; at BoF. Opens in THIS window.&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Cheetahs Disprove Noah&#039;s Ark&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That last comment is spam.  He&#8217;s been leaving this same comment on other blogs.  I decided to leave it in, because it&#8217;s so funny.  I did remove the link to his own site.  Spammers don&#8217;t get rewarded with links.</p>
<p>Creationists work extremely hard to prop up their house of cards, as the above comment illustrates.  If anyone is confused by his ramblings, you should watch this video:  <a href="http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/archives/433/cheetahs-disprove-noahs-ark" title="Go to 'Cheetahs Disprove Noah's Ark' at BoF. Opens in THIS window." rel="nofollow">Cheetahs Disprove Noah&#8217;s Ark</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan Gaver</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nathan Gaver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 19:50:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The mystery of ancestral descent, from Noah&#039;s Ark


 

This is tale which tells what recessive genes hold, what inbreeding cause&#039;s and what degenerate animals look like.


A male lion breeds with a female tiger, makes a liger of great size!
2






a male leopard breed with a female lion brings forth a leopon. Which not only has the size and strength of the lion but also has the climbing abilities of the leopard.
3



 


All that has so far been said, is recognized by science.
4


Now into the realm of what has not yet been &#039;validated&#039; (by science).
5


 


All the other cats are said to interbreed
from time to time.
6




 


The division of Species is based on the idea that, only members of the same &#039;Species&#039; can indeed breed.
But if all cats ( including the Egyptian house cat) can breed, they are not different Species but only subspecies of the original cat.

Now, if the liger is bigger and the leopon is of the same size and better. Then it comes to reason that the original cat from off the Ark was a super cat.
Scientists say that the &quot;extra&quot; abilities that come out of these &#039;hybrids&#039; are caused by &quot;recessive genes&quot;
Recessive Genes are created by inbreeding.



 


Now here is the part that might interest a historian. 



 


Gen 7:2

 

&quot;Of every clean beast thou shalt take to thee by sevens, the male and his female: and of beasts that are not clean by two, the male and his female.&quot;


 

In this I think that the clean animals were allowed to descend without inbreeding and therefore pure. While the others were forced into inbreeding, which caused their abilities to go into &#039;Recessive genes&#039;. The ancients had enough trouble with the lions, tigers, etc. So this might have been set to preserve man. Did you know that in India they breed the wild dog with the wolf to get a bigger breed. This alone means nothing, except that there is a story whcih appeared shortly after the flood. No later that 500 years, or 600, or 700, etc, after the flood. The story told of a great king who had wolves so great that his men were able to ride upon them, for they were far greater than any horse.



 

Maybe I&#039;m going nowhere, but if only two cats, two dogs, two bears, etc, walked off the Ark. Then I say that it would immediately force inbreeding, which in turn would force abilities to go into recessive genes. And (to the point) would force the super Cat to degenerate into the lion, tiger, leopard, cheetah and house cat that we have today. 



 

I&#039;m sorry I couldn&#039;t help joking and calling the lion and tiger a degenerate.



 



 

&quot;In the production of pure breeds of sheep, cattle, hogs, and horses inbreeding has frequently been practiced extensively, and where in such cases selection has been made of the more vigorous offspring as parents, it is doubtful whether any diminution in size, vigor, or fertility has resulted. Nevertheless it very frequently happens that when two pure breeds are crossed, the offspring surpass either pure race in size and vigor.&quot;


 


Sudden Origins by Jeffrey H. Schwartz





 

The tiger is either a pure breed are a degenerate species!
Or I say.
They are one and the same..!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!





 

Else, the reason why the clean were in sevens as opposed to the others.




 

Genetic research (and this basic reasoning and breeding) has shown that every type of wolf, dog, fox and coyote etc. came from the 1 original wolf.
Scott, John Paul and John L. Fuller Genetics and the Social Behavior of the Dog
Behaviour of Wolves, Dogs and Related Canines (Hardcover) by Michael W. Fox





 


Mitochondrial Eve (mt-mrca)

&quot;Mitochondrial Eve is the ...........common ancestor (MRCA) of all human via the mitochondrial DNA pathway . In other words, she is the MRCA found when ancestry of all living humans is traced back in time, following only the maternal lineage. Mitochondrial DNA pathway is equivalent to maternal lineage, because Mitochondrial DNA is only passed down from mother to child, never father to child. [1]&quot;

 

 

Camel-Llama-alpaca




 

All known subspecies of the &quot;horse&quot; are known to breed!

 
1 Last thing.
this theory is observable  &amp; testable, in that you can breed new &#039;breeds&#039; of dogs in just a few years. But each of these will have less &#039;ablities&#039; than the last.
 
Just take 2 dogs (of your choice) &amp; place them in a zoo. Now there children will be fine but as there children breed with each other you will see the same thing happen. Only it will go ten times further than before.
 
Kentish Son
 
I am sending this into the world because I want to get the word out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The mystery of ancestral descent, from Noah&#8217;s Ark</p>
<p>This is tale which tells what recessive genes hold, what inbreeding cause&#8217;s and what degenerate animals look like.</p>
<p>A male lion breeds with a female tiger, makes a liger of great size!<br />
2</p>
<p>a male leopard breed with a female lion brings forth a leopon. Which not only has the size and strength of the lion but also has the climbing abilities of the leopard.<br />
3</p>
<p>All that has so far been said, is recognized by science.<br />
4</p>
<p>Now into the realm of what has not yet been &#8216;validated&#8217; (by science).<br />
5</p>
<p>All the other cats are said to interbreed<br />
from time to time.<br />
6</p>
<p>The division of Species is based on the idea that, only members of the same &#8216;Species&#8217; can indeed breed.<br />
But if all cats ( including the Egyptian house cat) can breed, they are not different Species but only subspecies of the original cat.</p>
<p>Now, if the liger is bigger and the leopon is of the same size and better. Then it comes to reason that the original cat from off the Ark was a super cat.<br />
Scientists say that the &#8220;extra&#8221; abilities that come out of these &#8216;hybrids&#8217; are caused by &#8220;recessive genes&#8221;<br />
Recessive Genes are created by inbreeding.</p>
<p>Now here is the part that might interest a historian. </p>
<p>Gen 7:2</p>
<p>&#8220;Of every clean beast thou shalt take to thee by sevens, the male and his female: and of beasts that are not clean by two, the male and his female.&#8221;</p>
<p>In this I think that the clean animals were allowed to descend without inbreeding and therefore pure. While the others were forced into inbreeding, which caused their abilities to go into &#8216;Recessive genes&#8217;. The ancients had enough trouble with the lions, tigers, etc. So this might have been set to preserve man. Did you know that in India they breed the wild dog with the wolf to get a bigger breed. This alone means nothing, except that there is a story whcih appeared shortly after the flood. No later that 500 years, or 600, or 700, etc, after the flood. The story told of a great king who had wolves so great that his men were able to ride upon them, for they were far greater than any horse.</p>
<p>Maybe I&#8217;m going nowhere, but if only two cats, two dogs, two bears, etc, walked off the Ark. Then I say that it would immediately force inbreeding, which in turn would force abilities to go into recessive genes. And (to the point) would force the super Cat to degenerate into the lion, tiger, leopard, cheetah and house cat that we have today. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry I couldn&#8217;t help joking and calling the lion and tiger a degenerate.</p>
<p>&#8220;In the production of pure breeds of sheep, cattle, hogs, and horses inbreeding has frequently been practiced extensively, and where in such cases selection has been made of the more vigorous offspring as parents, it is doubtful whether any diminution in size, vigor, or fertility has resulted. Nevertheless it very frequently happens that when two pure breeds are crossed, the offspring surpass either pure race in size and vigor.&#8221;</p>
<p>Sudden Origins by Jeffrey H. Schwartz</p>
<p>The tiger is either a pure breed are a degenerate species!<br />
Or I say.<br />
They are one and the same..!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</p>
<p>Else, the reason why the clean were in sevens as opposed to the others.</p>
<p>Genetic research (and this basic reasoning and breeding) has shown that every type of wolf, dog, fox and coyote etc. came from the 1 original wolf.<br />
Scott, John Paul and John L. Fuller Genetics and the Social Behavior of the Dog<br />
Behaviour of Wolves, Dogs and Related Canines (Hardcover) by Michael W. Fox</p>
<p>Mitochondrial Eve (mt-mrca)</p>
<p>&#8220;Mitochondrial Eve is the &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..common ancestor (MRCA) of all human via the mitochondrial DNA pathway . In other words, she is the MRCA found when ancestry of all living humans is traced back in time, following only the maternal lineage. Mitochondrial DNA pathway is equivalent to maternal lineage, because Mitochondrial DNA is only passed down from mother to child, never father to child. [1]&#8221;</p>
<p>Camel-Llama-alpaca</p>
<p>All known subspecies of the &#8220;horse&#8221; are known to breed!</p>
<p>1 Last thing.<br />
this theory is observable  &amp; testable, in that you can breed new &#8216;breeds&#8217; of dogs in just a few years. But each of these will have less &#8216;ablities&#8217; than the last.</p>
<p>Just take 2 dogs (of your choice) &amp; place them in a zoo. Now there children will be fine but as there children breed with each other you will see the same thing happen. Only it will go ten times further than before.</p>
<p>Kentish Son</p>
<p>I am sending this into the world because I want to get the word out.</p>
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		<title>By: Bobbi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bobbi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 23:11:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whether you recieve it or not...be praying for you.</description>
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		<title>By: Ron Britton</title>
		<link>http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/archives/174/big-valley-creation-science-museumthe-press-page/comment-page-1#comment-4392</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron Britton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2007 06:11:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are correct.  I used the word &quot;attack&quot;.  However, I&#039;m not feeling persecuted.  I just thought it was foolish (and typical) of AIG creationists to sling mud at somebody without checking up on the facts first.  If they want to sling groundless accusations around, go right ahead.  That&#039;s typical behavior, from what I&#039;ve seen.

As far as respect goes, that is something that has to be earned.  The creationists&#039; grasp of biology is so incorrect that not only can I not respect them, they have actually earned my disrespect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are correct.  I used the word &#8220;attack&#8221;.  However, I&#8217;m not feeling persecuted.  I just thought it was foolish (and typical) of AIG creationists to sling mud at somebody without checking up on the facts first.  If they want to sling groundless accusations around, go right ahead.  That&#8217;s typical behavior, from what I&#8217;ve seen.</p>
<p>As far as respect goes, that is something that has to be earned.  The creationists&#8217; grasp of biology is so incorrect that not only can I not respect them, they have actually earned my disrespect.</p>
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		<title>By: FPC</title>
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		<dc:creator>FPC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2007 05:04:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did I just read the proprietor of this website complain of being &quot;&lt;b&gt;attacked&lt;/b&gt;&quot;?

Breathtaking!!

Indeed, the proprietor appears to have &lt;b&gt;no self-awareness&lt;/b&gt; whatsoever, as was stated above.

Here is an internet website, a public forum, &lt;b&gt;given over&lt;/b&gt; to &quot;&lt;b&gt;attacking&lt;/b&gt;&quot; and ridiculing other people ... particularly people of faith, which, as has been pointed out, overwhelmingly includes the proprietor ...

... yet he whines and opines that he is being &quot;attacked&quot; when those he has been &quot;attacking&quot; respond to his malevolent jibes!

This is quite astonishing in its double-standard and acute lack of self-awareness.

&quot;&lt;i&gt;Do as I say, not as I do&lt;/i&gt;&quot; says Mr Britton.

OB should apologise for not checking his facts .. or for making presumptions ... but Mr Britton can quickly correct the record since it IS his website.

So it turns out that Mr Britton IS in fact a lettered scientist.

We would naturally love to know more about the details of your degrees, qualifications, publications, achievements etc.

We would ask whether they stack up against the towering track record of those Mr Britton &quot;attacks&quot;, such as the following:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.answersingenesis.org/home/area/bios/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Creation Scientist Biographies&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

We find it doubtful, and would accordingly, cordially and respectfully invite Mr Britton to go back to mama and ask her to teach him how to have respect for others, particularly those who are his betters.

He seems never to have learned that lesson.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did I just read the proprietor of this website complain of being &#8220;<b>attacked</b>&#8220;?</p>
<p>Breathtaking!!</p>
<p>Indeed, the proprietor appears to have <b>no self-awareness</b> whatsoever, as was stated above.</p>
<p>Here is an internet website, a public forum, <b>given over</b> to &#8220;<b>attacking</b>&#8221; and ridiculing other people &#8230; particularly people of faith, which, as has been pointed out, overwhelmingly includes the proprietor &#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230; yet he whines and opines that he is being &#8220;attacked&#8221; when those he has been &#8220;attacking&#8221; respond to his malevolent jibes!</p>
<p>This is quite astonishing in its double-standard and acute lack of self-awareness.</p>
<p>&#8220;<i>Do as I say, not as I do</i>&#8221; says Mr Britton.</p>
<p>OB should apologise for not checking his facts .. or for making presumptions &#8230; but Mr Britton can quickly correct the record since it IS his website.</p>
<p>So it turns out that Mr Britton IS in fact a lettered scientist.</p>
<p>We would naturally love to know more about the details of your degrees, qualifications, publications, achievements etc.</p>
<p>We would ask whether they stack up against the towering track record of those Mr Britton &#8220;attacks&#8221;, such as the following:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.answersingenesis.org/home/area/bios/" rel="nofollow"><b>Creation Scientist Biographies</b></a></p>
<p>We find it doubtful, and would accordingly, cordially and respectfully invite Mr Britton to go back to mama and ask her to teach him how to have respect for others, particularly those who are his betters.</p>
<p>He seems never to have learned that lesson.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Britton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron Britton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 16:46:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really, you know that I&#039;m not a scientist?  Not an engineer?  Not a biologist?  I have been employed as all three at different times in my life.  Once again, you creationists make claims for which you have no evidence.

Instead of attacking people, why don&#039;t you simply provide some evidence for your absurd claims?  I don&#039;t mean that shit that &lt;i&gt;you&lt;/i&gt; call evidence.  I mean real, credible, verifiable, evidence that can stand up to peer review.  I don&#039;t mean &lt;i&gt;your&lt;/i&gt; peers, either.  If you want to play in this ballpark, you need to assemble a team.  T-ball doesn&#039;t cut it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really, you know that I&#8217;m not a scientist?  Not an engineer?  Not a biologist?  I have been employed as all three at different times in my life.  Once again, you creationists make claims for which you have no evidence.</p>
<p>Instead of attacking people, why don&#8217;t you simply provide some evidence for your absurd claims?  I don&#8217;t mean that shit that <i>you</i> call evidence.  I mean real, credible, verifiable, evidence that can stand up to peer review.  I don&#8217;t mean <i>your</i> peers, either.  If you want to play in this ballpark, you need to assemble a team.  T-ball doesn&#8217;t cut it.</p>
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