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		<title>by: StoneGiant</title>
		<link>http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/archives/171/fundie-evolution-quiz#comment-29515</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 20:06:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>James (Collins), the bible is a poem my friend, don't concretize it, it just loses all its power and worth if you do.</description>
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		<title>by: Brian</title>
		<link>http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/archives/171/fundie-evolution-quiz#comment-5130</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2007 02:37:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Oops. Hit "enter" too early. To continue:

Actually, Mr. Collins, thanks to people like yourself who think their imaginary friend is better that anyone else's imaginary friend, many parts of this world are already horrible places to live. Granted, my life is no "picknick", but I could have it a lot worse than I do. I could live in a third-world shithole where religious maniacs routinely use power drills on each others' skulls, or where young girls have part of their genitalia removed against their will as part of some sick belief system. Fortunately, though, I live in America, and I happen to love it. What really poops in my soup, however, is this fanatical Christian zealotry you and your bretheren feel necessary to impose on those of us with the wit to reject it. If you wish to believe that Jesus is about to come back to earth as an avenging superhero, and that I'll soon be realizing I'm wrong, fine with me. Go ahead and feel smug. All we ask for is that you keep your insanity to yourself. If we're wrong, well, won't you be the one laughing up in heaven next to Jesus! That is, if your idea of heaven is an eternal state of celestial dictatorship, where you are bound to worship without end, and no thought is yours alone. At least in Hell the company would be far more interesting.</description>
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<p>Actually, Mr. Collins, thanks to people like yourself who think their imaginary friend is better that anyone else&#8217;s imaginary friend, many parts of this world are already horrible places to live. Granted, my life is no &#8220;picknick&#8221;, but I could have it a lot worse than I do. I could live in a third-world shithole where religious maniacs routinely use power drills on each others&#8217; skulls, or where young girls have part of their genitalia removed against their will as part of some sick belief system. Fortunately, though, I live in America, and I happen to love it. What really poops in my soup, however, is this fanatical Christian zealotry you and your bretheren feel necessary to impose on those of us with the wit to reject it. If you wish to believe that Jesus is about to come back to earth as an avenging superhero, and that I&#8217;ll soon be realizing I&#8217;m wrong, fine with me. Go ahead and feel smug. All we ask for is that you keep your insanity to yourself. If we&#8217;re wrong, well, won&#8217;t you be the one laughing up in heaven next to Jesus! That is, if your idea of heaven is an eternal state of celestial dictatorship, where you are bound to worship without end, and no thought is yours alone. At least in Hell the company would be far more interesting.
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		<title>by: Brian</title>
		<link>http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/archives/171/fundie-evolution-quiz#comment-5127</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2007 02:23:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>James Collins Says: 

&lt;blockquote&gt;Not very long after this combined world power is in operation, the whole world will become a horrible place to live. There will be a time of trouble much worse than ever before. The other problems will be like a picknick in comparison to the trouble of the last days.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

This is what you get when a couple morons like Tim LaHaye and Jerry Jenkins are set loose with a typewriter. My two year old could pound out more coherent stories.</description>
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<blockquote><p>Not very long after this combined world power is in operation, the whole world will become a horrible place to live. There will be a time of trouble much worse than ever before. The other problems will be like a picknick in comparison to the trouble of the last days.</p></blockquote>
<p>This is what you get when a couple morons like Tim LaHaye and Jerry Jenkins are set loose with a typewriter. My two year old could pound out more coherent stories.
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		<title>by: Laika</title>
		<link>http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/archives/171/fundie-evolution-quiz#comment-3637</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 02:11:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Looks like you found a gold mine with that quiz page. Am I the only one who can't find the connection between #23 and the bible quote they cite for it? 

As for #20, here's the entire verse (using the New International Version rather than the King James version), if it helps:

&lt;blockquote&gt;How long will the land lie parched
and the grass in every field be withered?
Because those who live in it are wicked,
the animals and birds have perished.
Moreover, the people are saying,
"He will not see what happens to us."&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I'm guessing that these fundies are presuming that grass doesn't die since the animals die while the grass only withers. Then again, the fundies may also be thinking that since, according to them, plants don't live, they don't die. Maybe it's better not to try to understand fundie logic. That verse is out of context (what a suprise), anyhow, since the entire chapter has little to do with either death or evolution.

James Collins: Let me guess. The "bad guys" are the Catholics. Also, why is it either obey the "real" ten commandments or obey the counterfeit ones? What would happen if I were to refuse both? Where is America mentioned in the Bible? How on earth are you defining "Christian", anyhow? Why do you presume the Bible and your interpretation of it are both accurate?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like you found a gold mine with that quiz page. Am I the only one who can&#8217;t find the connection between #23 and the bible quote they cite for it? </p>
<p>As for #20, here&#8217;s the entire verse (using the New International Version rather than the King James version), if it helps:</p>
<blockquote><p>How long will the land lie parched<br />
and the grass in every field be withered?<br />
Because those who live in it are wicked,<br />
the animals and birds have perished.<br />
Moreover, the people are saying,<br />
&#8220;He will not see what happens to us.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;m guessing that these fundies are presuming that grass doesn&#8217;t die since the animals die while the grass only withers. Then again, the fundies may also be thinking that since, according to them, plants don&#8217;t live, they don&#8217;t die. Maybe it&#8217;s better not to try to understand fundie logic. That verse is out of context (what a suprise), anyhow, since the entire chapter has little to do with either death or evolution.</p>
<p>James Collins: Let me guess. The &#8220;bad guys&#8221; are the Catholics. Also, why is it either obey the &#8220;real&#8221; ten commandments or obey the counterfeit ones? What would happen if I were to refuse both? Where is America mentioned in the Bible? How on earth are you defining &#8220;Christian&#8221;, anyhow? Why do you presume the Bible and your interpretation of it are both accurate?
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		<title>by: James Collins</title>
		<link>http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/archives/171/fundie-evolution-quiz#comment-3621</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jun 2007 12:50:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Ron Brittion is only partially right. The religious body is NOT the evangelicals, but another religion. IF you read my posts and are alive at that time, you will realize who is the bad guys of the last days. Caution: It will not be easy to recognize who are the good guys and who are the bad guys if you haven't THOROUGHLY studied the events of the last days in your Bible.

Andrew, I am really real, and you too will recognize the final events of the world, IF you have read and understand what I wrote in my first post. Hopefully you will not wait until it is too late, to learn how to escape the ETERNALLY deadly trap that Satan is craftly setting in place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ron Brittion is only partially right. The religious body is NOT the evangelicals, but another religion. IF you read my posts and are alive at that time, you will realize who is the bad guys of the last days. Caution: It will not be easy to recognize who are the good guys and who are the bad guys if you haven&#8217;t THOROUGHLY studied the events of the last days in your Bible.</p>
<p>Andrew, I am really real, and you too will recognize the final events of the world, IF you have read and understand what I wrote in my first post. Hopefully you will not wait until it is too late, to learn how to escape the ETERNALLY deadly trap that Satan is craftly setting in place.
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		<title>by: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/archives/171/fundie-evolution-quiz#comment-3603</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jun 2007 07:36:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>James Collins: Are your for real?  Watch out for the black helicopters!

I do like the idea of creeping undead cereals though :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James Collins: Are your for real?  Watch out for the black helicopters!</p>
<p>I do like the idea of creeping undead cereals though <img src='http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />
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		<title>by: Ron Britton</title>
		<link>http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/archives/171/fundie-evolution-quiz#comment-3592</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2007 19:37:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;America will combine with a Religious body, in an attempt [to] ‘fix’ all the problems of the world. This religious-political regime will insist on total obedience, they will claim that it is the only way to keep humanity on the right track.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You are absolutely correct.  Preventing that from happening is what this blog is about.  The merger with the religious body is almost complete.  It's called evangelical Christianity.</description>
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<p>You are absolutely correct.  Preventing that from happening is what this blog is about.  The merger with the religious body is almost complete.  It&#8217;s called evangelical Christianity.
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		<title>by: James Collins</title>
		<link>http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/archives/171/fundie-evolution-quiz#comment-3589</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2007 17:35:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Make fun of the things of God while there is time. Very soon you will learn that the Bible has presented some very important prophecies for these last days. Already important things are happening at an ever increasing rate that demonstrates that the stage is almost set. 

America will combine with a Religious body, in an attempt the 'fix' all the problems of the world. This religious-political regime will insist on total obedience, they will claim that it is the only way to keep humanity on the right track. They will have a counterfeit version of the 10 commandments, and everyone will be forced to obey them. 

However, a few Christians will refuse to keep their fake commandments and declare that they will obey the 10 Commandments of God only. These Christians are said to have, "the seal of God in their forehead" See Revelation. All the rest of humanity will promise obedience to the regime and their false commandments, the Bible says that they have the Mark of the Beast.

Not very long after this combined world power is in operation, the whole world will become a horrible place to live. There will be a time of trouble much worse than ever before. The other problems will be like a picknick in comparison to the trouble of the last days.

There you have it, history, before it happens. Don't wait till you see all this take place to get yourselves right with God, It would probably be too late then.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Make fun of the things of God while there is time. Very soon you will learn that the Bible has presented some very important prophecies for these last days. Already important things are happening at an ever increasing rate that demonstrates that the stage is almost set. </p>
<p>America will combine with a Religious body, in an attempt the &#8216;fix&#8217; all the problems of the world. This religious-political regime will insist on total obedience, they will claim that it is the only way to keep humanity on the right track. They will have a counterfeit version of the 10 commandments, and everyone will be forced to obey them. </p>
<p>However, a few Christians will refuse to keep their fake commandments and declare that they will obey the 10 Commandments of God only. These Christians are said to have, &#8220;the seal of God in their forehead&#8221; See Revelation. All the rest of humanity will promise obedience to the regime and their false commandments, the Bible says that they have the Mark of the Beast.</p>
<p>Not very long after this combined world power is in operation, the whole world will become a horrible place to live. There will be a time of trouble much worse than ever before. The other problems will be like a picknick in comparison to the trouble of the last days.</p>
<p>There you have it, history, before it happens. Don&#8217;t wait till you see all this take place to get yourselves right with God, It would probably be too late then.
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		<title>by: Slag</title>
		<link>http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/archives/171/fundie-evolution-quiz#comment-3574</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 13:23:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Good post! I've just discovered your blog from the comments you posted in my group blog. I'll keep reading.

The quiz answer that struck me most was #2. Fundamentalists often quote the Bible entirely out of context, so it was no surprise that they did it again for this quiz. If you look at the full text of 2 Peter 2 (NIV), which I looked up from  biblegateway.com, this is what it says:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Their idea [the false prophets'] of pleasure is to carouse in broad daylight. They are blots and blemishes, reveling in their pleasures while they feast with you. With eyes full of adultery, they never stop sinning; they seduce the unstable; they are experts in greed—an accursed brood! They have left the straight way and wandered off to follow the way of Balaam son of Beor, who loved the wages of wickedness. But he was rebuked for his wrongdoing by a donkey—a beast without speech—who spoke with a man's voice and restrained the prophet's madness. (2 Peter 14-16)&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Clearly Peter is talking about a specific type of false prophet — those who believe that unrestrained pleasure is worshipping God. This was a movement in the early church, and it comes up again from time to time in church history. The passage is about a specific concept, which has nothing to do with evolution or anything related!

Until the last hundred years or so, the Bible was always printed without verse numbers, to keep exactly this kind of thing from happening.

Pointing out that creationist writers are taking the Bible out of context is a powerful argument for convincing fundamentalists to consider science as a valid viewpoint, which is a noble goal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good post! I&#8217;ve just discovered your blog from the comments you posted in my group blog. I&#8217;ll keep reading.</p>
<p>The quiz answer that struck me most was #2. Fundamentalists often quote the Bible entirely out of context, so it was no surprise that they did it again for this quiz. If you look at the full text of 2 Peter 2 (NIV), which I looked up from  biblegateway.com, this is what it says:</p>
<blockquote><p>Their idea [the false prophets&#8217;] of pleasure is to carouse in broad daylight. They are blots and blemishes, reveling in their pleasures while they feast with you. With eyes full of adultery, they never stop sinning; they seduce the unstable; they are experts in greed—an accursed brood! They have left the straight way and wandered off to follow the way of Balaam son of Beor, who loved the wages of wickedness. But he was rebuked for his wrongdoing by a donkey—a beast without speech—who spoke with a man&#8217;s voice and restrained the prophet&#8217;s madness. (2 Peter 14-16)</p></blockquote>
<p>Clearly Peter is talking about a specific type of false prophet — those who believe that unrestrained pleasure is worshipping God. This was a movement in the early church, and it comes up again from time to time in church history. The passage is about a specific concept, which has nothing to do with evolution or anything related!</p>
<p>Until the last hundred years or so, the Bible was always printed without verse numbers, to keep exactly this kind of thing from happening.</p>
<p>Pointing out that creationist writers are taking the Bible out of context is a powerful argument for convincing fundamentalists to consider science as a valid viewpoint, which is a noble goal.
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