Regarding the misstatement about prayer being banned in school:

I suspect that the fundie leadership will say things like prayer is banned in school because it inflames their followers, and there’s no better way to excite the idiot patrol than to make them think their rights are being infringed. This leads to more money in the collection plate Sunday morning.

I really see the religious leadership as a bunch of folks who truly define the word evil. For thousands of years, they’ve had a pretty cool gig. Everyone else is out working their butts off milking and plowing while these bastards sit in a shady temple and collect the offerings of the suckers. The sales pitch is: worship our god and you’ll receive a free trip to paradise. Since no one ever comes back to tell the truth, they can say and do almost anything they want.

Some of them even get off on the power trip that bending the minds of the faithful provides.

I see the religious right make the same mistake all the time, but I expect them to be wrong.

I’m not sure it’s a mistake. At least not in all cases.

If the strong religious biases had remained on the Supreme Court, we wouldn’t have seen the outright banning of prayer in the schools.

I do hate to see things uncorrectly stated, but prayer wasn’t banned in schools. School mandated prayer was banned in public schools (you can pray on your own, voluntarily, but the school, as a representative of the State, can’t force the class to). I see the religious right make the same mistake all the time, but I expect them to be wrong. Don’t follow their example.

“Science flies people to the moon…Religion flies people into buildings”.

The people rule here.

Yes, unfortunately – and that is the problem.

A nation overwhelmingly god-fearing also overwhelmingly rejects science. My fellow citizens lack the critical intelligence to evaluate the garbage they put into their brains.

The US is an aberration among developed nations in its affinity for religious enthusiasms and in its failure to accept now elementary basic truths like evolution via natural selection. (Check the Pew Forum for Religion and Society.)

The US has been a secular state from its inception. Thus, it is not (and never has been) one nation under god, power, force or immaterial being.

The people rule here. Not child molesting priests, not fanatical tax-dodging televangelists, nor cabals of delusional dominionists seeking to overthrow the Republic.

Christ is not sovereign . . . God is not sovereign . . . Allah is not sovereign . . . they do not exist. They are fictions no more real than Zeus, Sherlock Holmes, or Batman.

The people are sovereign. We abide by the laws which we create for ourselves.

anti-supernaturalist

My wife was a college professor teaching English 101. She did have students who were home schooled by fundie parents. I read the papers written by these students. The stuff they were taught was outrageous. One of the common themes was the confusion of correlation and causality — crime rate going up after group prayer in school being banned, etc.

“Home schooling” is fundie indoctrination.

What government is he talking about? What boldness of liberals? What timidness of conservatives?

He’s an extreme conservative. He’s viewing reality through a funhouse mirror.

Anyway, I think that’s an important thing to note. Fundies certainly helped get those war criminals into power, but even with the most power they had ever aquired in recent history, the “fundie” side of the agenda was largely a complete failure.

I do want to ask a question though…

The present boldness of liberals and timidity of conservatives are only the secondary causes.

What government is he talking about? What boldness of liberals? What timidness of conservatives? For crying out loud, there’s over 170 amendments to the health care bill submitted by conservatives and NOT A SINGLE ONE is going to vote for it! That’s some freakin’ huge balls on the conservatives and some serious “thank you for anally raping my bill while I bent over to accomodate your interests” on the part of liberals.