Be It Resolved That the Carnival of the Godless is Here

Church-state history

The Carnival of the Godless #117 has arrived at State of Protest.

Since I am a strong separationist, my favorite post of the bunch is “Reprint Of My Resolution” at Not a Potted Plant. Written as a proclamation, Transplanted Lawyer rattles off a bunch of examples of how we were very specifically founded as a secular nation. Check it out.


Update: 5/21/[email protected]:40 AM

At Barbara’s prompting, I went to a great site called You can see an overview of the bill. That link includes all co-sponsors. You’ll want to look at that. There are currently 50 of the grubby little things, all glomming onto this bill as an easy way to curry favor back home. They’re from a bunch of different states, not just the ones she listed. You should check to see if your congressperson is selling you out for 30 pieces of silver.

The bill has been referred to the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform. You should check whether your representative is on that and let him know what you think.

You should read the full text of the bill. It’s rather repugnant. I had just assumed they were going to make one of those pointless proclamations that they’re always doing and then be done with it. They’re actually trying to make it an annual pointless proclamation, which I find a lot more offensive.

The bill starts with a long list of Whereases that list all of the major violations of church/state separation in our history. It then uses these to justify the bill’s own violations.

The bill is mostly symbolic, but it is clearly an endorsement of Christianity. This makes it a weak “establishment of religion” in my book.

Here are the resolutions of the bill:

Now, therefore, be it Resolved, That the United States House of Representatives—

(1) affirms the rich spiritual and diverse religious history of our Nation’s founding and subsequent history, including up to the current day;

(2) recognizes that the religious foundations of faith on which America was built are critical underpinnings of our Nation’s most valuable institutions and form the inseparable foundation for America’s representative processes, legal systems, and societal structures;

(3) rejects, in the strongest possible terms, any effort to remove, obscure, or purposely omit such history from our Nation’s public buildings and educational resources; and

(4) expresses support for designation of a `America’s Spiritual Heritage Week’ every year for the appreciation of and education on America’s history of religious faith.

7 Responses to “Be It Resolved That the Carnival of the Godless is Here”

  1. Barbara Says:

    If anyone here lives in TN, NC or IL I think you need to ask your house representative what the hell they are doing sponsoring this bill.

  2. Barbara Says:

    Sorry I should have clarified that those states are the ones whose Democrat representative signed up for the bible fest. I expected the Refundacans to sign up, but not those three.

  3. Barbara Says:

    It speaks:

  4. Scarlet Woman Says:

    Once again, fundamentalists are trying to inject religion into the state apparatus. I’m so sick of fundamentalists arguing that the U.S. was built on Christian values when it was actually erected on DEMOCRATIC values.

    Why do I have a nagging feeling that the “spiritual heritage” they wish to celebrate isn’t Jewish, Muslim, Buddhist, Hindu, Bahai, Native American, pagan, or Unitarian! The herirage they wish to celebrate is their own, and I doubt this nation’s religious diversity is even in the picture for them.

  5. Parrotlover77 Says:

    Barbara – Which reps specifically? Where do I find that out? Over half of NC’s reps are Dems. My rep, Brad Miller, is usually on the right side of silliness like this. But if he did sponsor this one, I’ll give him a piece of my mind. 🙂

    Wikipedia says he’s Episcopalian so I guess anything is possible, but it’s not like he’s a Southern Baptist. lol

    oh, also, he’s child-free, like me! Woohoo!

  6. Barbara Says:

    Click on the link in the article that says “overview of the bill” and then there’s a link there to the ( now ) 61 co-sponsors. I understand the Republicans, although you might want to make sure that the ones listed aren’t ones you assume to be moderate and clear thinking. The democrats should be ashamed of themselves. This bill seems to be a direct response to Pres. Obama’s remarks in Turkey about the US being neither a Jewish nor a Christian nation. True statement, but nothing upsets a right winger like suggesting that our forefathers weren’t bible thumping idiots like them.

  7. Parrotlover77 Says:

    Brad Miller – Not a cosponsor. Whew! I still need to write him to tell him how I feel about that bill.

    The only Democrat cosponsoring it from my state is Rep. Mike McIntyre [D-NC7]. I don’t know anything about him personally, but NC7 appears to cover a pretty redneck area of the state. It’s in the southeast side, covering Fayetteville, Wilmington, and bumps right up against the border of the Fascist State of South Carolina.

    More surprising than somebody in that district cosponoring the bill is that fact that he has a “D” after his name.